what am i supposed to do ?

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M4dBoOmr
M4dBoOmr Member Posts: 598
edited July 2021 in General Discussions

I really love this game and I just want to have some fun.

When I play Killer from rank 15-10 I am mostly unchallenged, sometimes there are exciting games but mostly I get 4k games without even trying ...

sooner or later you get into the range of rank 10 and above, from then on I have no chance at all, I can manage a maximum of one or two hooks, and the rest of the game I am led by the nose with no chance at all, what is going on ?

gens are popping left and right, every hunt is a loop fest where everyone I am hunting seems to know where the next pallet is and how to connect them without me even coming close, if I come close DH, if I somehow manage to FINALLY get ONE person down, as soon as I pick them up: perfect flashlights/sabotage/body blocking running around in circles, 360s without me even knowing where and how they disappeared!

mindgames ? they know everything i do even before i know it

what the hell... how can I get into this kind of skill level matches?

I feel like joining an amateur sports club and constantly having matches against the world champions in their peak, how am I supposed to become better, if I have NO chance at all?

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  • SMitchell8
    SMitchell8 Member Posts: 3,301
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    What killer are you playing? I had similar issue with Trapper and GF, got to rank 12 and cant do well with them, especially against reds and purples. Oni however gives me the chance to compete at least.

  • bluedusef
    bluedusef Member Posts: 288
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    this happens when you reach that point, it feels like your helpless as a killer sometimes but u get better and better at the game if u keep at it. Some maps are not in your favour for either side, sometimes u get bad RNG with set ups, sometimes survivors all spawn apart then they all work on a gen seperate so there u are, chasing somebody, u get a down and hook and boom 3 gens are popped.


    its something BHVR should have addressed ages ago and its not your fault at all. thats why killers tend to use slowdown perks, not because its impossible to win or anything, but because the game can sometimes go by VERY QUICKLY even if your getting downs fast. dont beat yourself up about it, its just the negative part of the game which the devs havent properly addressed. all they did was bandaid the game with perks and introduced things like BLOODLUST for killers with badly designed maps.

  • SMitchell8
    SMitchell8 Member Posts: 3,301
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    To add to this, a lot of the time its not the killers fault, they just get out perked out played by game mechanics.

  • M4dBoOmr
    M4dBoOmr Member Posts: 598
    edited July 2021
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    i regularly like playing Clown/Bubba/Trapper, but since I've heard a lot about Spirit I am currently giving her a shot (after the post) maybe it is the killer, plus I think a lot of survivors will not like to hear that but since you learn anti-looping by getting looped I am thinking about doing matches only to train that, I will get called the tunneler from hell, but who cares

    mostly I don't commit to looping and head to another survivor, maybe that's one of the reasons I get so easily looped, I mean how I am supposed to learn it if I don't train it ;) (I really don't care about deranking hehe)

  • ImBrakingBike
    ImBrakingBike Member Posts: 454
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    This is happening to me right now lol

    I'm a potato killer who got to rank 11 just because pipping up is as easy as starting a match when you are rank yellow. Anyway, I got to rank 10 and now I got matched with a SWF (at least 2 players were a team), a rank 8, rank 5, and two ranks 4. They absolutely outplayed me (a baby trapper), I didn't mind the gens popping up but when they started with the clickety clackety of the flashlights just to mock me I started to play their game.

    Skill-wise? I learned nothing from the match, couldn't chase, couldn't try to predict their moves. But at least by the end of the game I could already recognize some of the moves they made as a team. I could recognize when they tried to stun me by making me run near lockers, or how they wanted me to go upstairs to blind me, etc. What I mean is, sometimes you get to learn something that may come in handy in the future. I certainly know I'll be more careful with lockers lol

    It's okay if things happen and you get frustrated, but when the match is over it's over. Not worth worrying too much. Try to think of what you may have learned from the match and move on to the next one. As long as you keep playing you'll get better 😀

  • Bwsted
    Bwsted Member Posts: 3,452
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    It's normal. You do what players do in any other games. Watch tutorials, ask questions, review your gameplay. The lot.

    Take trials as a learning experience, or you'll never improve.

    I would discourage you to start learning the game on Spirit. Her power is too peculiar and it will not teach you the fundamentals.

    I'm of the advice that Legion is the best killer for beginners. They have a little bit of built-in slowdown and, even if they get a free first hit, they still have to commit to m1 chases.

  • M4dBoOmr
    M4dBoOmr Member Posts: 598
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    Legion for beginners?

    I thought lehion is on of the harder killers, why would you recommend Legion?

  • SilentPill
    SilentPill Member Posts: 1,302
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    He’s hard because he’s bad, not because he is difficult to play. I’d recommend wraith over legion though since they are both very similar (free first hit into M1 killer). Playing M1 killers is a good way to get transferable killer skills.

    As for getting better, you need to find the killers and perks that suits you. You also unfortunately need to be run at the most obnoxious loops before you will realize which chases are worth taking. I learned all the infinite windows back in the day by people running me at them.

  • Bwsted
    Bwsted Member Posts: 3,452
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    If you mean harder as in not the strongest, that's true.

    That's not my point, though. A beginner needs to play something that forces them into learning how to run tiles correctly and to take optimal decisions at a macro level. Legion's power allows that to happen while still offering some benefits.

    Other killers possess powers that are disruptive to that learning process because they are game altering. If one was to play them optimally, they would not be exposed to the fundamentals of gameplay very often, or at least not as often as with Legion.

    It is my personal opinion, though.

  • M4dBoOmr
    M4dBoOmr Member Posts: 598
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    Thank you for the input :)

    I will play around with Legion & check some guides etc.

  • stikyard
    stikyard Member Posts: 526
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    How many hours do you have in game?

    What Killer's and Perks are you using?

  • Carth
    Carth Member Posts: 1,177
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    This is what DBD is at high level gameplay

    • Survivors spawn spread out and on gens at the start of the game
    • Good survivors with all pallets available at the start of the game WILL take 50+ seconds to down on first chase(lmao 3 gens @ 50/80 hehe)
    • Good survivors know totem spawns and will find your hex totems easily
    • Good survivors know tiles and how to chain them effectively
    • Stretched Res (but I only use it cause I like it!)
    • Most recent pallet change logic means you basically auto win at a pallet as a survivor unless your ping is abysmal


    Killers can.....hold W harder? Your literal only option is to hope you play against potatoes or people who do not choose to be as efficient as possible on gens or play a killer with mobility as their biggest strength. You simply lose if survivors focus on gens as the many pieces of evidence have shown(de-pip squad, MMR, etc.).

  • M4dBoOmr
    M4dBoOmr Member Posts: 598
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  • Bwsted
    Bwsted Member Posts: 3,452
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    The optimal way to play Legion is the same to play a generic m1 killer stereotype. Their power still benefits them somewhat. But they are forced to employ good killer fundametals to succeed.

    To play Wraith optimally, you have to use his uncloack attack and get free hits via stealth. You can do well against most survivors without knowing much about correct general gameplay.

    I guess you could make it work by playing suboptimally and commiting to chases without re-cloacking.

  • Sadsnacks
    Sadsnacks Member Posts: 677
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    You should switch to survivor for a while. Same as people who play a lot of survivor and develop angst towards certain killers the best approach is to play the side you want to become better against.

    Now that youve played a decent amount of killer youll play better as survivor and get to higher ranks and start playing with good survivors as opposed to playing against them and that kind of information is gold.

    Youll get better at anticipating survivors in many ways and once you start feeling like youve hit a wall as survivor then switch back to killer. Youll notice a huge difference in how you play killer.

  • FFirebrandd
    FFirebrandd Member Posts: 2,445
    edited August 2021
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    Have you learned how to moon walk? If not, you need to learn asap. One thing the game never explains to Killers is that you have a giant red flashlight shining in whichever direction you're looking in. Survivors can see it, You can't. Survivors can use that thing's presence to see which direction you're facing and are likely going. A really big part of high level killer chases is managing When the Survivors can see your "Red Stain" and when they can't.

    I personally would pick Legion over Wraith because I love how their power gives him a fantastic 1v4 tool that can give copious amounts of slow down. When you stab somebody in Frenzy, if you don't chase them, they will have to spend ~12 seconds mending their deep wound. Otherwise they go down in 20 seconds. That part... almost never happens but keeping Survivors off Gens for 12 seconds per Frenzy stab helps a ton.

  • PalletsAndHooks
    PalletsAndHooks Member Posts: 989
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    Proxy camp and prioritize tunneling. By not doing these things, you are giving the survivors opportunity to do stuff to you and the killer becomes less of a threat and more of an obstructive catalyst.

    Regarding dead hard, never normally use a lunge. Lunging (and dead hard) is for low to mid rank play and rare scenarios around a blind corner. Always try to close the distance necessary to perform a basic attack. The cool down from a basic attack is slightly faster than a lunge and you will likely bait out the dead hard. Be prepared to delay the attack, there's a rare few survivors who can properly deal with this. Basic attacks are also superior than lunges against 360s; if a survivor is bringing dead hard, good chance they'll spin themselves dizzy avoiding your attacks.

    Learn to face away from your opponents during a chase. This can be helpful at TL walls. Inversely, make sure to face the corner the survivor is using before doubling back. Most survivors are watching your red glare and they will make decisions based on it's presence or absence. It can be very difficult to determine what a killer is doing if they can't see your red glare.