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Whats the point of event offerings after having 30 vials?

AnotherRandy
AnotherRandy Member Posts: 274
edited October 2018 in General Discussions
As survivor, I think max after one week there is noone left who can harvest the plants. So you get the offerings from the bloodweeb, burn them and you get nothing from that? That needs to be addressed quick tho. Plants should be able to harvest even if you got your 30 vials just for the 4k BP.
Basically as survivor you invest Bloodpoints into an offering which probably won't give you points anymore but gives killer more points, the side who already is swimming in BP.
I wouldn't mind that if I could at least play killer by myself, but lobby queue is so extreme long.

EDIT:
THE ISSUE IS 
As soon as everyone in the lobby is maxed, noone gets a single BP bonus. I spend BP into an offering, I use it and the only one who benefits from that is the killer (of he manages to use all event hooks)

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  • BearTrapSnap
    BearTrapSnap Member Posts: 86
    edited October 2018
    You can still get the bonus BP for anything harvested. People won't all have it done by then. You won't get that unless you bring an event offering, so there's your answer.
  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293

    @BearTrapSnap said:
    You can still get the bonus BP for anything harvested. You won't get that unless you bring an event offering, so there's your answer.

    So you're completely dependant on the other survivors not being maxed out on vials to get blood points for an offering you put down..

    Great...

  • BearTrapSnap
    BearTrapSnap Member Posts: 86
    edited October 2018
    I mean I'm not even close to being done yet, so I don't know this, but why wouldn't you just be able to harvest without getting any nectar post 30 vials? Even if you can't, a big if, I'm averaging all nectar harvested by the second gen done--huge points even if I rarely get any myself.

    Stop looking for things to ######### about and enjoy the free event skins.
  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293

    @BearTrapSnap said:
    I mean I'm not even close to being done yet, so I don't know this, but why wouldn't you just be able to harvest without getting any nectar post 30 vials? Even if you can't, I'm averaging all nectar harvested by the second gen done--huge points even if I rarely get any myself.

    Stop looking for things to ######### about and enjoy the free event skins.

    You cannot harvest plants once you hit that max. Why should I use an offering that I can't even use? For you? That's funny.

    I'm not bitching for more free skins dumbass, I'm bitching about the fact once every survivor is maxed out on vials, then the offerings are useless to then. Which means less offerings, less event hooks and less bloodpoints.

    It's a massive oversight.

  • Global
    Global Member Posts: 770

    Blood points. Every time someone fully harvests a plant you get 4k bp. Past that nothing. Same went for every other event offering im keeping some just to look back at past events.

  • BearTrapSnap
    BearTrapSnap Member Posts: 86
    Mc_Harty said:

    @BearTrapSnap said:
    I mean I'm not even close to being done yet, so I don't know this, but why wouldn't you just be able to harvest without getting any nectar post 30 vials? Even if you can't, I'm averaging all nectar harvested by the second gen done--huge points even if I rarely get any myself.

    Stop looking for things to ######### about and enjoy the free event skins.

    You cannot harvest plants once you hit that max. Why should I use an offering that I can't even use? For you? That's funny.

    I'm not bitching for more free skins dumbass, I'm bitching about the fact once every survivor is maxed out on vials, then the offerings are useless to then. Which means less offerings, less event hooks and less bloodpoints.

    It's a massive oversight.

    Just want to draw attention to the fact that I said quit bitching, not you are one or anything else. The name calling is completely unnecessary and you sound like an entitled jerk. But what do I know, just played in every single event since console release.

    If the BP isn't enough for you then take a break, you sound like you could use one.
  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293

    @BearTrapSnap said:
    Just want to draw attention to the fact that I said quit bitching, not you are one or anything else. The name calling is completely unnecessary and you sound like an entitled jerk. But what do I know, just played in every single event since console release.

    If the BP isn't enough for you then take a break, you sound like you could use one.

    I like how you didn't refute my points...

    Guess I'll just hold to those event offerings then.

  • BearTrapSnap
    BearTrapSnap Member Posts: 86
    I like how you didn't apologize for being rude... I'm not interested in arguing anything, sorry. I wouldn't even say it's an oversight though, like someone else pointed out every other event has worked this way. Enjoy your extra BP, hope I don't run into you in game.
  • Kongereke
    Kongereke Member Posts: 10

    @Global said:
    Blood points. Every time someone fully harvests a plant you get 4k bp. Past that nothing. Same went for every other event offering im keeping some just to look back at past events.

    The difference between the other events is that you could keep doing it tho' it didn't matter you could still get the Bps from the generators. But now we're locked after we've maxed it out which makes it next to no reason to put in offerings to "help" others. Which was the case with the other ones since you still got some benefit from them. I think this is the point he's trying to make.

    Is this the same for killers? I haven't maxed out killer but considering it's just hooking i would assume you can still get 5,5k points per hook even after you've maxed out?

    Before you call me a salty survivor main this is just a question, and a existential issue considering this is really unfair towards how survivors get fukd this event. Poorly designed event. At the end of the event everyone will be playing killer and no lobbies to be found.

    Reason behind calling it a poorly designed event is: Your not actually doing anything towards finishing the game while collecting this nectar. You are just making hotspots for the killers to camp/find you. With ruin/sloppy butcher and healing changes this has become a very slow week. and the fact that it is faster to just die on hook when your maxed out.

    It's a cool concept and i like the artwork that went into it but the execution seems to have been made by someone that hasn't really played the game to much to see that this is ruining the game for 2 weeks. It's even boring playing killer. Just wait with chasing people for 2 mins. Then you get free hooks and kills after that. This is all going against the games mechanics and people have realized it way to soon and just start farming and doing stuff because it benefits both sides way to much.

  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293

    @BearTrapSnap said:
    I like how you didn't apologize for being rude... I'm not interested in arguing anything, sorry. I wouldn't even say it's an oversight though, like someone else pointed out every other event has worked this way. Enjoy your extra BP, hope I don't run into you in game.

    Enjoy having 3 plants in your lobbies since no one else is going to put an offering down for your sake.

  • TigerKirby215
    TigerKirby215 Member Posts: 604

    None as Survivor ('cept helping others), and BPs as Killer.

  • BearTrapSnap
    BearTrapSnap Member Posts: 86
    edited October 2018
    @Mc_Harty

    Every other event in DBD gens are still the objective. Suddenly it's a secondary objective and everyone loses their minds. But what about muh offerings! How is it any different from any other offering being counteracted by another or not coming into play during the match?

    Life isn't fair. Get over it. If you get two skins out of it you've earned your piece. Collect useless offerings at your own detriment.
  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293
    edited October 2018

    @BearTrapSnap said:
    Every other event in DBD gens are still the objective. Suddenly it's a secondary objective and everyone loses their minds. But what about muh offerings! How is it any different from any other offering being counteracted by another or not coming into play during the match?

    Life isn't fair. Get over it. If you get two skins out of it you've earned your piece. Collect useless offerings at your own detriment.

    Again, I'm not complaining about not collecting skins. Whats the point for me using an offering I can't even use?

    Can't use them for blood points, that requires another player. Can't even participate in the secondary objective since your blocked once you hit the max. Can't even use them as a killer because the lobbies are #########.

    Every other offering works. The ones that don't always works are maps and that's only if someone else puts another map offering down. Even then the offerings work since it'll be based around those maps the players selected.

    Stop acting so offended people actually see flaws with this event and take off those blinders.
    I'm not affected by this so its perfectly fine.

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  • SadonicShadow
    SadonicShadow Member Posts: 1,146
    edited October 2018

    I have my 30 vials as survivor but i am still buying and using more petals. Using the petals accomplishes two things. 1. It gives you bloodpoints for anything harvested. At 4k a plant once someone harvests even 1 you get your points back +1000. 2. It helps out other people that have yet to complete the event. It helps both the survivors and the killer. Overall i just keep using the offerings because its the nice thing to do but that concept seems to allude so many.

  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293
    edited October 2018

    @SadonicShadow said:
    I have my 30 vials as survivor but i am still buying and using more petals. Using the petals accomplishes two things. 1. It gives you bloodpoints for anything harvested. At 4k a plant once someone harvests even 1 you get your points back +1000. 2. It helps out other people that have yet to complete the event. It helps both the survivors and the killer. Overall i just keep using the offerins because its the nice thing to do but that concept seems to allude so many.

    And if everyone is maxed out on vials?

    Doesn't help the killer and it certainly doesn't help the survivor. It's completely useless in that scenario.

  • BearTrapSnap
    BearTrapSnap Member Posts: 86
    Mc_Harty said:

    @BearTrapSnap said:
    Every other event in DBD gens are still the objective. Suddenly it's a secondary objective and everyone loses their minds. But what about muh offerings! How is it any different from any other offering being counteracted by another or not coming into play during the match?

    Life isn't fair. Get over it. If you get two skins out of it you've earned your piece. Collect useless offerings at your own detriment.

    Again, I'm not complaining about not collecting skins. Whats the point for me using an offering I can't even use?

    Can't use them for blood points, that requires another player. Can't even participate in the secondary objective since your blocked once you hit the max. Can't even use them as a killer because the lobbies are #########.

    Every other offering works. The ones that don't always works are maps and that's only if someone else puts another map offering down. Even then the offerings work since it'll be based around those maps the players selected.

    Stop acting so offended people actually see flaws with this event and take off those blinders.
    I'm not affected by this so its perfectly fine.
    Dumbass

    Do offerings for previous events still work? Do the darkest moonlight bouquets still work? No, because they're expired and broken. This event is to earn skins. Bonus BP is just that, a bonus.

    Do I think you should still be able to fill your vial but not get more serum after 30? Yes.

    But I can just say that, and have a difference of opinion without attacking an individual and just their ideas. Keep it up, call me some more names. It really reinforces your point and makes it seem like you're much smarter than everyone else here. Going to go play now, you have fun on here.
  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293
    edited October 2018

    @BearTrapSnap said:
    Do offerings for previous events still work? Do the darkest moonlight bouquets still work? No, because they're expired and broken. This event is to earn skins. Bonus BP is just that, a bonus.

    They expired because the devs made them expired. They specifically made the offerings not spawn in your bloodweb anymore since you are unable to use them. Nice try but not the same thing.

    And you can't earn blood points if everyone is maxed out on vials.

    Do I think you should still be able to fill your vial but not get more serum after 30? Yes.

    ... He says trying to get people to stop bitching about how players can't interact with plants after they hit the max.

    Why even bother?

    But I can just say that, and have a difference of opinion without attacking an individual and just their ideas. Keep it up, call me some more names. It really reinforces your point and makes it seem like you're much smarter than everyone else here. Going to go play now, you have fun on here.

    I don't think I'm smarter then everyone else here.

    I think you're a dumbass. Big difference.

  • SadonicShadow
    SadonicShadow Member Posts: 1,146
    edited October 2018

    @Mc_Harty said:

    @SadonicShadow said:
    I have my 30 vials as survivor but i am still buying and using more petals. Using the petals accomplishes two things. 1. It gives you bloodpoints for anything harvested. At 4k a plant once someone harvests even 1 you get your points back +1000. 2. It helps out other people that have yet to complete the event. It helps both the survivors and the killer. Overall i just keep using the offerins because its the nice thing to do but that concept seems to allude so many.

    And if everyone is maxed out on vials?

    Doesn't help the killer and it certainly doesn't help the survivor. It's completely useless in that scenario.

    If absolutely everyone is maxed out on vials then yeah they are pretty much useless but given that so many people have such different schedules there is no way everyone will be able to grind out all of their vials in a timely manner. Even if 3/4 of the people have their vials i will still run these offerings just to help those folks that need to get a few more. However i agree that it was a massive oversight on the devs part. Running these offerings later in the event is going to depend on the good will of the community and this community is not known for that.

  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,930

    @BearTrapSnap said:
    I like how you didn't apologize for being rude... I'm not interested in arguing anything, sorry. I wouldn't even say it's an oversight though, like someone else pointed out every other event has worked this way. Enjoy your extra BP, hope I don't run into you in game.

    Because this is a serious problem that could get really bad. Being rude will just melt a few snowlakes

  • Cetren
    Cetren Member Posts: 985
    You can use it. And you get blood points from it. Plus if you're full on nectar, you have more time to grab the high BP objects in game like gens and totems while everyone else gets the plant, feeding you the BP for harvesting without the work. Even if it's only you burning the offering that's an extra 12k per match.
  • Dr_doom_j2
    Dr_doom_j2 Member Posts: 869
    Mc_Harty said:

    @BearTrapSnap said:
    Every other event in DBD gens are still the objective. Suddenly it's a secondary objective and everyone loses their minds. But what about muh offerings! How is it any different from any other offering being counteracted by another or not coming into play during the match?

    Life isn't fair. Get over it. If you get two skins out of it you've earned your piece. Collect useless offerings at your own detriment.

    Again, I'm not complaining about not collecting skins. Whats the point for me using an offering I can't even use?

    Can't use them for blood points, that requires another player. Can't even participate in the secondary objective since your blocked once you hit the max. Can't even use them as a killer because the lobbies are #########.

    Every other offering works. The ones that don't always works are maps and that's only if someone else puts another map offering down. Even then the offerings work since it'll be based around those maps the players selected.

    Stop acting so offended people actually see flaws with this event and take off those blinders.
    I'm not affected by this so its perfectly fine.
    Dumbass

    Do offerings for previous events still work? Do the darkest moonlight bouquets still work? No, because they're expired and broken. This event is to earn skins. Bonus BP is just that, a bonus.

    Do I think you should still be able to fill your vial but not get more serum after 30? Yes.

    But I can just say that, and have a difference of opinion without attacking an individual and just their ideas. Keep it up, call me some more names. It really reinforces your point and makes it seem like you're much smarter than everyone else here. Going to go play now, you have fun on here.
    If you've really played every event since console release, you know that's not how events work. They don't deactivate in the middle of an event, or make it so only one side can still earn bonus BP for the event. The Bonus BP is to ensure everyone gets a fair shot at reaching the objective, plus events have ALWAYS given bonus BP until the whole event is over. This event still has a whole nother week. So you are talking out if your ass and are to prideful to know when to shut up. You'll do well here on the forum.
  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223

    @Mc_Harty said:
    You cannot harvest plants once you hit that max. Why should I use an offering that I can't even use? For you? That's funny.

    I P3'd Kate just as the event started. She's at like level 47 or something, I have like 40 of the event things and I'm 9/30 on vials for survivor. I'm gonna burn every one of these stupid things to get them out of my inventory.

  • Naiad
    Naiad Member Posts: 194

    @Kongereke said:

    @Global said:
    Blood points. Every time someone fully harvests a plant you get 4k bp. Past that nothing. Same went for every other event offering im keeping some just to look back at past events.

    The difference between the other events is that you could keep doing it tho' it didn't matter you could still get the Bps from the generators. But now we're locked after we've maxed it out which makes it next to no reason to put in offerings to "help" others. Which was the case with the other ones since you still got some benefit from them. I think this is the point he's trying to make.

    See I understand them locking you out so those that still need nectar can get it, but as you said it gives no incentive for you to use your offering. In previous events you would use your offering and get bonus BP and could still help with the event objective to help other survivors. I'm just going to ask in chat if anyone needs nectar and use an offering, if I don't get extra BP so be it. They might revisit it in other events, so we'll see.

  • AnotherRandy
    AnotherRandy Member Posts: 274
    THE ISSUE IS 
    As soon as everyone in the lobby is maxed, noone gets a single BP bonus. I spend BP into an offering, I use it and the only one who benefits from that is the killer (of he manages to use all event hooks)
  • sergantuss
    sergantuss Member Posts: 43

    getting 60
    another 30 frome other side

  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293

    @thesuicidefox said:
    I P3'd Kate just as the event started. She's at like level 47 or something, I have like 40 of the event things and I'm 9/30 on vials for survivor. I'm gonna burn every one of these stupid things to get them out of my inventory.

    I have 40 on Feng and I since I'm maxed out with the vials, there's no reason for me to use them.

    Seriously they're completely useless. I can't do the event and I can't get blood points. I have to depend on other survivors to get the blood points for me. That's dumb as #########.

  • SadonicShadow
    SadonicShadow Member Posts: 1,146
    edited October 2018

    @Mc_Harty said:

    @thesuicidefox said:
    I P3'd Kate just as the event started. She's at like level 47 or something, I have like 40 of the event things and I'm 9/30 on vials for survivor. I'm gonna burn every one of these stupid things to get them out of my inventory.

    I have 40 on Feng and I since I'm maxed out with the vials, there's no reason for me to use them.

    Seriously they're completely useless. I can't do the event and I can't get blood points. I have to depend on other survivors to get the blood points for me. That's dumb as #########.

    What they should have done is once you max out the vials you can still fill more vials but instead of getting another vial you get one large lumpsum of bloodpoints for each vial. Say 10,000 per vial.

  • Lavernne
    Lavernne Member Posts: 98

    And if you play most time swf with your 3 friends and all are maxed out, you still get the offerings, but no one can harvest. No need to use the offerings, no one gets the extra BP.