Fellow Killers, Just be Nice Every Once and a While
Now I'm not talking going head-over-heels for Survivors and using every moment as a chance to help them, but just show some friendliness where you see a scenario ripe for the picking. Just last game as Ghostface I had someone getting me to force-hook them (which I prefer over them DCing) and then I had two of their teammates down only about a minute and a half later after I stalked them both on shack gen... so I closed hatch (didn't want to have the game ending super quickly), messed around a bit, and then committed to the usual non-stalk chase. After downing them, I didn't hook them. As you may have suspected, I carried them halfway across the map to a gate. They stopped wiggling once I walked straight past two hooks, and then I let 'em get the gate.
Now, I know plenty of us do this already, but you're not sacrificing much by letting a person go or not always playing for kills. I literally spent five minutes of that game just messing around. That's what some people need to get; this is a game, and you should have fun. Now whether or not you classify being nice to Survivors as linked to that fun or detrimental to it, you cannot deny that having nice Survivors makes you happy when you get them. So, just return the favour every once and a while if you don't already.
It isn't too hard to ask. Majority of us do play for fun, after all.
Also, I can see these comments igniting with loathing for my cause and just otherwise brimming with non-related discussions, so, please, as per the forums rules... keep it civil and respectful. I appreciate it. :)
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This goes both ways.
Sadly, most of the time, when the killer is playing nice. The survivors either say nothing or BM after the match.
Yet survivors are surprised that killers suddenly don´t play nice anymore.
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I've always tried to have fun with it all, but it ultimately doesn't end up being a two-side deal. I haven't had too much experience with Survivor, so I didn't feel qualified to say much in that regard.
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Given the amount of toxic survivors I have encountered recently, no way. No giving hatch, no avoiding tunneling, etc.
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This sounds more toxic than just ending the game.
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Just compare the amount of matches where you gave the hatch to the last survivor. To the amount of matches, where you performed bad, all were about to escape and a survivor offered himself to be sacrificed.
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Its insanely hard to be nice with how snowbally the game is.
I mean I have just recently had a game where I had someone always hooked and/or slugged(Clearly a brand new survivor so slugging instead of death hooking to give them a chance) at all times and still nearly lost because it was badham springwood.
I do feel really bad with how many survivors and killers are being thrown in way over their head against me on both sides but at the same time its really hard to play nice.
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I swore off being nice. Every chance I get to slow them down or remove them I'm taking. As a rule I don't set out to slug or tunnel but I'm not going to give a free pass because they made a dumb play. If I see you and think I'll get you I will hook you.
no add on or gen slowdown trapper sent to hawkins and two people quit and the others don't want to do gens.
Games full of this dumb stuff. If they earn it i'll reconsider but being nice JUST to be nice. Nah man I'm through with that.
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You can't always guess right if they just don't know what to do yet or if they're caught off guard. Just off them. They'll learn quicker or stop polluting matches with no BT hook trades while injured
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Such offers are almost always because a player wants to disconnect. In that case, it's an optimal outcome for you, as they're not insta-DCing and it's quite a fair play on both sides. I've had far greater matches than the one in question, and many more great ones than worse ones, so I'm more than happy with giving hatch or exits every once and a while because I'm not some dull, apathetic player who thinks the game is their life. That's my take on things. I'm here to have fun, not be some jaded Killer who's over fun and just wants to make Survivor players' lives a misery.
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That is a Sad truth i encounter often. If you Win and give Hatch they just leave and often enought dont even say thank you. ANd if they destroy you they're way to often making fun of you. Maybe Survivors should start being more Nice aswell. Its not about escaping at all cost, its about having fun.
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I play nice all the time when I play simply because I don't really care if the survivors die or not. If I really need that survivor six feet under I will load into the match with a much more powerful loadout than I normally use, but ~75% of the time I load in with a subpar or meme build. I don't really tunnel (but I do recommend you not make yourself an easy target) and prefer to go after the healthy survivor that rescued you.
I find that when I get really invested in killing a survivor adrenaline starts acting up and I start missing a lot of swings and make all sorts of dumb blunders, so I stopped doing that years ago.
Build a sand castle, fly a kite. Enjoy your match survivors. I'm just going to walk between generators and enjoy myself while looking at the pretty maps. If you get sacrificed that's probably entirely your fault.
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This never happen lol they wait at the edge so the can t bag and if they get down they drop outside lol.
I stop giving hatch cause of that the only time i will give is if someone have a name related to the dark soul lore
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.... No thank you. When do survivors ever show kindness? One in a ######### billion. Same with killers. I'm good where I'm at.
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Agreed. I'm a big advocate for treating others how you want to be treated, so there are many games as Killer where I'll let people go when their team DC'd on them/actively wasn't supporting them, and as Survivor I'll give myself up for sacrafice in EGC if I feel it necessary/appreciated the Killer's Memes. (Like, Bubba didn't get a kill all game and wasn't just bad at facecamping, or baby Hags who don't understand how traps function and will play 'Small Slow Lady with Long Arm' all game and not get a hook, or the Scratched Mirror Myers me and my buds faced tonight on Badham where we sacraficed ourselves to him for being a Scratched Mirror Myers. (Especially since the man was absolutely wild, he didn't even bring an indoor map offering.))
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I've been given the hatch or had killers farm after several DCs/suicides more times than I've had survivors give killers some kills after a ######### trial.
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I'm nice all of the time, its one of the biggest reasons I lose matches, f*cking empathy.
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No, no. I don´t mean at the start of the match. But when the match is about to end.
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Exactly! So its no surprise that killers don´t want to play nice anymore.
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With the amount of sweats and try hards in this game?
NO....
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How is wasting time playing nice? I allways hate when kilers just give up and make me farm when someone dc'd or he is stomping. Like just play normally and see how it goes, i want to play DBD not farmville.
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Nah
Last time I thought "Right, these people had a hard game, I'll let them unslug themselves and let someone get hatch" I was called trash and that I should learn to play
Never again, survivors don't appreciate your kindness
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Keep the cycle of kindness going yess 😀
I try to be nice and respectful when playing both sides. However, the gloves come off when people decide to be toxic despite you not exhibiting toxic behaviors and being respectful in your gameplay. Some people's desire to bully is just too strong in this game.
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I always play nice as killer, once everyone's on death hook I've had my fun and feel like I've won :)
Only exception is if a survivor tbags me after they stun me like a rude little gremlin lol
Edit: it also helps I'm on console so no end game chat
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I try to be, but too many survivors throw it in your face. I let a survivor who got farmed run away & then at the end of the match they were teabagging at hatch told me ggez trash & blocked me. People with issues play this game I swear.
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I can agree on that one. I had a game earlier this evening with a toxic SWF team who were literally all running BT, and were trying to spam flashlights at every interval. I avoided them proficiently, but they were extremely irritating. Thank God I'm playing Blight regularly now... I just kept mindgaming, faking pick-ups and picking up at walls, and pulled numerous insane lethal rush hits on them and somehow came out with somewhere like 8 hooks and 2 kills. Not great at all, but it's great that I just took it in my stride. The sons of bitches were tea-bagging constantly...
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If teammates Dc is about the only way but it would have to be more than one who DC. Hatch you have to earn now and most of time I will slug the 3rd to get the 4th. I used to play 100% by the made up bullshit called the survivor rule book. That has stopped for many reasons like if a survivor is going to win a switch flips and they become ######### about it like they just have too. Most survivors (unless I am playing survivor) know to split up on gens and butt ######### the ######### out them....So no time for rule book play. Last but not last in my entire time playing I have seen 1 survivor give me a mercy sacrifice. I have gave out way more hatches than 1 so my head is clear.....You all die miserably if I have my way.
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Well it depends. If I got 4 stacks of BBQ, then I'll be nice. If you are the last one and weren't hooked, then I'm probably going to hook you. Its an extra 25% BP so its hard to pass up tbh.
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no
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I’m sure you know damn well giving hatch and giving a killer are completely different. A 3 or 4k are essentially the same, the killer isn’t giving up much at all to let the last survivor go if they played well.
If a survivor lets the killer kill them, they lose 5k survival points and automatically get silver survival which makes it hard to pip at red ranks.
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If you sweat after someone instantly dcs and camp hooks/tunnel, you’re just a straight up POS. There’s no reason for it, you’re just being a nasty player.
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Like others have said, I would be nicer if it went both ways. The only times I’ve had a survivor offer to die on hook was when they wanted to farm during an event and they were maxed on BP. I’ve been stopping slugging for the 4K lately and letting the last player get hatch if they find it, but then I get messaged saying “ez”
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I am an absolute sweetheart, unless you send me to haddonfield.
#nohatch4haddonfield
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Honestly, I totally see why survivors DC on Hawkins. It's the most horrible map in the entire game and it seems to come up all the damn time.
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As if killer loses nothing when he gives the hatch.
That's 2500 points for "No one escaped", 500 points for hooking and 1000 for killing, not counting late sacrifices. With BBQ that's even more points lost.
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when i give hatch i often get a "thanks killer" in aftergame chat, sometimes +rep on my steam profile.
It's true that survivors often aren't nice to bad killers while killers are at least a little bit more often nice to bad survivors. But there is also not much you can do as survivor except for letting yourself killed.
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Killers get almost 2x as much BP as survivors, I doubt they’re missing much. Survivors get literal scraps every game if they don’t run the killer for 5 minutes, unhook 3 teammates and do 4 gens.
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I like going for 4ks. Nothin' wrong with that.
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Not waiting at the exit gate to teabag the killer would be a start.
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Killers also need bloodpoints more, since if you levelled all your survivors to level 40 and unlocked all the perks on one survivor - you unlocked full survivor gameplay and everything else is optional, but for killers it is level 40 for everyone and all perks on every killer you want to play
So - bloodpoints are bloodpoints
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It’s not really optional as you won’t have any items on your survivor if you’re using BP to level up other characters.
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So the solution is just to become toxic yourself? Lol
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You can find items in chests
Also you can play survivors you are levelling up
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Okay, so? Everyone has to deal w/ it, it doesn’t mean it’s fair to generalise everyone the same way. It’s p obvious when a survivor or killer is being respectful to the other side.
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Yeah, I love plundering for a brown toolbox that saves less time than spent on opening the chest!
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As if it would be better to buy that toolbox from the bloodweb
Also, it still gives you value if you bring it to the next match
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If there’s a DC or I’m just stomping the survivors early, I’ll usually be nice and let one or two farm and then escape unless they’re being toxic. I hate being sweaty when there’s no need to be
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ive honestly never seen survivors giving the killer a kill or being nice on purpose but yet somehow a killer is expected to be that way. ive had multiple matches that i couldve easily won but i gave survivors another chance. well they mostly end up with the survs tbagging at the exit gate and giving the typical gg ez in the endgame chat. Its baffling to me how the "Killer" has to be the nice person while survs can do what they want.
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If you aren't nice by entitled survivor standards you don't have to deal with it nearly as much. It doesn't sound nice and it isn't but it's about the only recourse we have besides just take it and like it. Good for the goose good for the gander.
I've refused the gimmie hatch and gate a number of times. I felt I played like garbage and they were decent and tried to let me go but I felt they deserved it and had a decent enough run lately I wasn't hurting for points
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If you play for fun then why is it so important to get a escape gifted?
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Why tf should i care for points?
I want to kill you guys, i couldnt care less for points.
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