I won all my killer games for a year. Here is everything I learned. (Long post)
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I'm taking this as Hag is OP and deserves to be nerfed. 700 games is a long win streak for 1 killer so it proves everything to me.
Thanks for proving this to me 😁👍
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I doubt there are any players in the game that have won 700 matches in a row on either side, regardless of character/loadout used.
To further clarify, there are scenarios, bugs, exploits, etc that have come up during the past year that make such a claim virtually impossible.
In addition, certain maps also make this claim straight up impossible as it is not possible to control a significant enough area unless RNG blesses you with a 3-gen.
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I appreciate it.
I fully expected people not to believe me and to send me hate main DMs. People would rather demonize certain killers than learn new counterplay. I hope that my post helps out the people who want to learn.
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It certainly is a lot of wins. I think that some killers can do this, largely because survivors dont know the counterplay. This is my attempt to help out.
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Here's a link to the Reddit thread that was previously mentioned, as well:
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While I'm skeptical about the win streak, if it is true then congratulations to you. You deserve it. And I say this as someone who has a deep, burning hatred for Hag.
Also, whether or not your streak is real, you're clearly a pretty good player based on all the advice you've provided.
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I can believe survivors misplayed enough for you to get a bunch of wins when you go full sweat from the start.
Specially since I appear to be the only survivor that knows to crouch vs hag in the VERY few times I play against one.
One of her best techs is to not teleport. Because people seem to forget you don't have to teleport and they vault back right into you :p
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Camping hag is my biggest issue, because the only counterplay is a genrush.
If the only way to counter a vanilla mechanic is to rush the objective, the mechanic is the issue. "just rush gens" should never be the answer.
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Thanks!
I hope that the info I provide helps you enjoy the Hag matchup more in the future. She is really strong and she forces a specific counterplay strategy, but if you pull it off, she has very little chance of winning.
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Totally. Survivors need to learn the way to beat a good Hag. I think if they did, both they and the Hag would have more interesting games.
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You are commenting a lot in the thread and on Reddit, so I figured I would answer you, finally. I am not trying to prove I won 700+ games. I did, but that is really not the main takeaway I want people to have.
I don't mind at all if you think I am lying about the games. I just want people to read the post and learn how to play against solid hag players.
Exploits, keys, RNG, etc all affected my games, but I stayed on top of the news and made sure I played extra nasty when I suspected people of trying to abuse them. I ran franklins almost every game to deal with items, too. I did not need 3 gens very often as survivors rarely got to the last gen.
I get that you will absolutely not believe any of this, and I don't care to argue about whether it is possible. There is no proof that I can give you that will satisfy your skepticism and that is fine. I address this in the post itself.
I posted from a new account, I have nothing to gain or lose from this post. I learned a lot about this rarer killer and want to share what I know with the community.
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I do not believe it at all.
I am also well aware that, on the internet, people can be prim/polite/proper while still being dishonest - There's a very obvious reason that your thread is not gaining any steam on reddit.
Either way, I hope you continue to enjoy and support the game.
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The highest winsteak I've seen, which is 3-4k, is like 800+ on Twins so I'm not surprised someone could get one Hag who's better than them. Glad I could learn something a killer I never play or go against.
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Who performed this streak? I'd like to take a lookeroo.
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My bad it wasn't a 800+ win streak but a 800+ killstreak
He's at 100 win streak here:
Then 200 here, but there's no gameplay just MMR issues:
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I don't care if it's real or not tbh lol any excuse I can take to call Hag OP I'll take 😂
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Yup! Dowsey had 199 4Ks in a row on Twins.
His win condition was more stringent than mine, as a single key escape ended his streak, but I allowed it, as I say in my post.
I think a lot of streamers could win for a year, but it would make for very boring content. Same build on the same killer, sweating every game for a year? Who is watching that?
I am not better than Dowsey or Space Coconut or Michi or Otz. They (and a lot of others) could do this easily and probably with more than 1 killer.
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No problemo.
I thought this was what you were referencing - He's a solid player, for sure.
IIRC, he was blown up in MMR because he had to get one of his pal's comp teams to queue or it matched them against said team?
Thanks for getting back!
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>:3
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I do not think they could do it easily at all.
I'd be interested to see what some of the streamers on here think.
@ScottJund @Michi @CoconutRTS (these are the only three people I know of here that fall into said category) - Any way to get a weigh-in/opinion, please?
Could be an interesting topic of discussion/pov.
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This would blow me away lol. I would love to hear what any of them would have to say / answer any of their questions.
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I know Scott has been pretty nice about responding to stuff here as of late.
I believe he recently made a video based on someone's request here, too.
I don't always agree with his actions/opinions, but that was a super rad move, for real.
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Additionally, I don't suppose you'd be willing to stream some of your own Hag gameplay.
At 700+ wins, I'm sure there are lots of people that would love to see you in action/how you play to add it to their repertoire.
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Feel free to take this how you will, but I really don't want to. I don't think seeing a single game of Hag (or 10, for that matter) will convince people I did it, nor am I interested in proving anything.
This was the way I chose to share my knowledge.
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I can’t go a single night without losing lol.
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Don't feel bad - Most people can't.
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You need to be a big loser to win this much, trust me.
Really though, you give up a lot of what makes the game fun to sweat super hard every game for a year.
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For reasons that may not be immediately evident to some users, this is certainly an interesting topic.
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I really don't mind if you believe me about the streak. I am not looking for recognition or anything, I have hidden my account name.
I think that a lot of wins come from survivors not knowing the counterplay to hag. I learned a lot about her in the last year and came to share what I know with the community.
I also said in another response that plenty of people can do the same thing I did, but it would make for some pretty bad streaming content and is not all that fun to sweat like crazy every game.
You are certainly entitled to your opinions about everything, and I hope you have some about the content beyond personal incredulity. Please, if there is something about the Hag that you disagree with, we can have a conversation about it.
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Most of what you're sharing has also been discussed by other users on these very forums, as well as other streamers.
Granted, there is nothing wrong with compiling what you know in one place, but there isn't really anything new or exciting being brought to the table, either. Things like positioning camera before popping traps, harassing traps, perk choice, etc are not really new info/tech.
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I mean, it is clear to me that many people do not know this stuff. It is clear in that when I play hag, they do not do this stuff. I dont know other channels through which I can help out, so I posted here. You are free to believe it or not, implement it or not, I really don't mind. I am trying to help in the way I think is best.
gl out there.
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I get teams in solo queue that destroy Hags that are quite good/use their perks/trap setups quite well.
Additionally, some of these Hags use better add-ons, as well (ie shackles).
I know it's anecdotal, but, well, we're in this topic.
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What is it that you are looking for? You don't believe me, which is fine. You don't think what I have to say is useful to you or your teammates, which is fine.
I think that, for some people, this information will be useful. That's what I am here for.
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Well - I didn't read your "experience" because I couldn't get past the opening statement. Why would I believe your thoughts on this amazing win streak - if I don't believe you had this amazing win streak?
That's like someone saying I made $2 million from $50 in a week and here's how you can do it too... yeah I am not reading that either.
If the conclusion is faulty - why read what "evidence" created that conclusion.
I play Hag (granted she is like 5th on my list of killers I play) and can easily create a great how-to play/how-to counter thread about her without having to lie about my skill/accomplishments with her.
THIS is why I think these forums need an ignore/block feature.
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It's 100% a good compilation of information (as I've also previously admitted).
It's a shame it was prefaced by such a 'feat.'
If this was posted up as just a simple guide in the guide section, it would have blown up.
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Saying other streamers could do this is a deflection, no human on earth could pull this off. Period.
Someone posted a video of a streamer who got 100 kills in a row. That’s 25 games, a remarkable feat.
Then you come along and are like “please, just 25 games? I’ve won 700 in a row.”
Your claim is none other than stating that you are the best player in all of DBD, not just the best but head and shoulders above some top notch streamers who have put up some amazing vids.
You have to realize that your claim discounts everything you say.
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In the interest of keeping things accurate it was 200 wins in a row, I believe. That's 800 kills.
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Amen. And he supposedly never had a two escape with this 110% killer.
Otz and others have done 100+ kill streaks but our boy here is saying he’s gotten a 2,100 to 2,800 kill streak.
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You don't have to believe him but some of you are just coming across extremely condescending.
You don't believe him? Alright no need to say it over and over like damn.
I don't believe it fully but I'm not gonna say that multiple times and not leave the thread alone lol
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I'd really suggest that O/P make a new topic under the Guide section.
The info compilation/dump could help people long after this topic fades.
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You are free to believe exactly what you want to. You can discount everything I say based on whatever criteria you want to.
Other players can do this, but it makes for very boring content and not very fun games. I have absolutely no doubt players like Michi who almost never lose (while using no add-ons and meme builds) can do this but why would they?
Either the info in the post is useful or it is not. I hope it is.
I cant prove I won the games, so I expect people will not believe me. All I do is play Hag. I don't play any other killer. I have only played maybe 5 games as another killer since starting the game.
If you find anything in the post, besides the winstreak, that you want to discuss/object to. Let me know.
I do hope you read the post and try it out, though.
gl
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Once again, I do need to state that I don't believe any other player has ever made such a claim or demonstrated a winstreak anywhere near this caliber.
IE - If Dowsy's 199 is S-Tier, your 700 (possibly +, as you said on Reddit you didn't want to overestimate) would be SSSS+.
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No one is saying lie to him or not calling the truth out but constantly coming back is just weird imo.
Like you've made your point known and that is it, is the way I see it.
Yeah he keeps responding but you could just yano, ignore it?
I won't be responding again but was just reiterating my point is all. You do you then man.
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There was that dude who lost his 800 plus streak during MMR.
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I have a P3 hag that I rarely play and I’m rank 1 on both sides. Eventually you get a team that flashlight kills your traps and loops you, you put down a trap they just run to the next loop. Then there is map RNG.
MYC only excels if people hook bomb and let you port right back.
Oh and Michi couldn’t pull off what you said, not him, not Otz, not any other big name these forums can conjure.
Im not asking you to prove your last 700 games …. I’m asking you to prove your next 50 games (<9% of your supposed total win streak).
If you did a 4-5 hour stream (something people do every day) and you won 50 games it shut everyone up. You won’t, you can’t, your post is meaningless. Besides entertainment.
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Watch Michi and tell me MYC only works for hook bombs.
I am not a streamer. I am not going to stream a day of Hag for anyone. This was an attempt to share some knowledge.
I am sorry you didn't learn anything new.
Your point has been noted.
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Are you talking about Dowsey's 800 kills in a row?
It wasn't 800 games in a row....unless you mean someone else?
If so, link me up, friendo, and I'll take a look!
Thanks!
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This is the video where he lost the streak. His whole Playlist is there on his channel though. If the link doesn't take you there, it was around an hour and fifty eight.
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