Now that the game is not competitive...
It's dead to me. As in I'm done with it.
Yes, yes... most probably believe it was always casual, so no need to reply if that's all you have to say. Not for me. I only play competitively. And my reward was seeing my rank improve. Now, I have no reward. No reason to continue. Nothing to strive for.
Played a few matches today and all I have is that empty feeling that there is no point to it. There is no way to measure my skill anymore. I do well, my MMR goes up and I'm at the same point where I started. I do poorly and my MMR takes me back to the same win/loss ratio. I can sit in the bushes all match and MMR will eventually (or thats the theory) catch up and I will still do just as well. It all feels pointless now.
I'm sure casual players are enjoying this though. And I'm genuinely happy for you. Everyone is a winner now that the rating is hidden and there are no leaderboards.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. The system is working as intended. I know that competitive players are not the intended audience. I know I'm just a minority. This is just a rant. I just needed to talk through my sadness, because saying goodbye is often a sad experience. But I will keep reminding myself that this frees up time for new adventures. Got to find positives after all.
Unfortunately, nothing good lasts forever. It's time to move on. It was nice known you all.
EDIT: Guys, chill. A single helpful person @FrenziedRoach explained why the game is done for me. I'm extrinsically motivated. Once the motive is removed, there is no reason to continue. My motivation was achieving rank 1 as survivor as well as getting high kill ration as killer against high rank opponents. Gone. End of thread.
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k thanks bye
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And that short sentence is the summary of DBD community. Thank you. I needed that type of reply to feel less sad about leaving.
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What on earth are you talking about. If you played the game with a competitive mindset, you didn't see your rank improve because even casual players would hit Rank 1 few days after reset. So either you are not a competitive player and you are actually a player with a very casual skillset, or you're just trying to find something to complain about.
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Good bye for now.
and see ya in the fog later.
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Bye-bye.
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See you in a few weeks. I myself have made a couple of posts about leaving too, as many others have, yet a lot of us remain lol.
Seriously though, Just take a break for a month or two and come back with a fresh perspective. It's still competitive if you are playing to win.
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The game was never competitive in the first place, not even remotely. There's a reason the competitive scene is so small and doesn't bother with anything but KYF.
Edit: Seriously, I suggest you go find one of the comp DbD discords. Most still aren't foolish enough to treat the game like a real competitive one, but they are sweaty as hell and full of rules to try and balance the game if that's what you're into.
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Sad to see, i hope they decide to pull the heads off their asses and finally make MMR public or revert to the old pip system, what we have is going to make many old players leave.
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Ok so dramatic lol
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Oh, yes, you are so competitive that you are quitting right as they add proper matchmaking. So believable, bro.
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Not competitive? Why we have MMR so? Is not a competitive feature?
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You know that just because you believe that doesn't make it true, right? Only 6.1% of all pc players ever achieved rank 1 as survivor. The highest I ever got was rank 3 and that is after about 200 survivor hours.
Source: https://steamcommunity.com/stats/381210/achievements
Now you can show me your source for "even casual players would hit Rank 1 few days after reset"
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I already explained. I'll just copy/paste:
"There is no way to measure my skill anymore. I do well, my MMR goes up and I'm at the same point where I started. I do poorly and my MMR takes me back to the same win/loss ratio. I can sit in the bushes all match and MMR will eventually (or thats the theory) catch up and I will still do just as well."
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I already explained. I'll just copy/paste:
"There is no way to measure my skill anymore. I do well, my MMR goes up and I'm at the same point where I started. I do poorly and my MMR takes me back to the same win/loss ratio. I can sit in the bushes all match and MMR will eventually (or thats the theory) catch up and I will still do just as well."
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What? I always thought old ranking was a joke and even a caveman can do it. The game just got competitive today to me. Making iri 1 starting from ash 4 with MMR is way more competitive than without. Rank 1 every month starting from rank 5 with old matchmaking made you feel competitive? Weird
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"I can't imagine having that much of my fun in a game tied to a number in the corner of the screen...." Not sure what's your point is. If you can't imagine something that is true, than working on expanding your imagination might benefit.
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Apparently only 6.1% of all PC players are cavemen:
Source: https://steamcommunity.com/stats/381210/achievements
Legendary survivor
Reach survivor online rank 1.
6.1%
And apparently I'm not a caveman, because highest I ever got was 3. But you are free to believe whatever you made up in your mind. Myself, I'll look at stats.
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Did you even read what I said? It's on the first line of original post:
"most probably believe it was always casual, so no need to reply if that's all you have to say."
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Bye won’t even miss you when the game gets in a healthier state due to sbmm
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I dunno man, I'm having way more fun with the game now that there is no ranking and I can't depip. Killer facecamps me? I laugh and watch YouTube or my teammates pop gens. Killer tunnelling me? I use it as an opportunity to improve my skill and then move on to the next game. Survivors fly through generators on a large map? I focus on individual chases and use the perks I enjoy.
As much as I told myself that ranking didn't matter, I always had that stress in the back of my mind that I needed to be a high rank to get good teammates. I hated depipping from being facecamped or tunnelled to death, or feeling stressed about gens popping. But now that my individual skill is measured and THAT is what determines my teammates/the people I play against, I'm very happy and can finally play without that rank stress.
Maybe take a break and find a new goal for playing the game, or play a real competitive game instead.
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LOL you know console does not have rank 1 achievements. So you base your argument off 1 platform and say it's hard to get rank 1 (It's not we all know this).
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It is more difficult now though.
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I'd argue the opposite, you're finally getting a reward for ranking up. As for being competitive? The game is too unbalanced and RNG dependent to be really competitive.
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You don't need an arbitrary number to know whether you're better or worse, though. At least I don't. It's obvious from how you play and the opponents you go up against.
The old system made it possible to club baby seals and get crazy win streaks without actually improving. MMR requires you to actually be better if you want to do well.
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Ah the game is not for long time players anymore, its new players they are focussing on. We, og players, basicly had a 5 year early acces game.
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Are new players not subject to the SBMM or something?
The game is still the same, they just improved the matchmaker.
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PC players are a simple random sample (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_random_sample) of all dbd players, so they represent the entire group (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sample_size_determination). If you still don't understand what I'm saying, take STAT 101 in your local college and than take some time to laugh at what you said.
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Competitive matchmaking this, casual players that. Man I just want Oni to spit in my food
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If anything it's more competitive now. The more you win the better the killers/survivors you'll face. Or did you think the Rank 1 emblem was something special?
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If you don't need that number, I'm happy for you. I need it because I have no other way to measure myself.
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no dont go like my dad
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You can't tell if your opponents now are better than the ones who came before?
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Yes, rank 1 emblem was special to me. I'm it's not special to you, I'm happy for you and you can move on. Jessus, it seems like half the people on this thread just trying to belittle random person who they don't know just because that person finds importance in something they don't care about. Don't you have anything of value to say?
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You've played 200+ hours and you've barely made it to Rank 3. There you go, that solves everything. You are not this "minority" of competitive players, you're the target audience here. The casual player. Rejoice.
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Ummm....yeah, so let me see if I got this straight. Before MMR you say that you felt rewarded only because you got to see your rank (which lul, literally meant nothing btw) move up or down? But now that we have an actual MMR that determines your skill, which also rewards us each reset with BP depending how high we go with our ranks, suddenly we don't have rewards? Ummm...ok. I'll remember that as I cash in my BP later on either my P1 Legion or on a survivor and give that side a try for once.
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I am and will only be laughing at you today.
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There are multiple definitions of this word and you are missing that one that I'm using:
/kəmˈpedədiv/
adjective
adjective: competitive
having or displaying a strong desire to be more successful than others.
You can be competitive even with 0 hours and rank 20, as long as you "having or displaying a strong desire to be more successful than others."
There is nothing in the definition that requires you to achieve that success in a certain number of hours. Learn English, it's not that hard.
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The issue with the Rank 1 is that it didn't represent the top. Rank 1 was a mix of potatoes and decent players. All it really took was play time.
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denial
/dɪˈnʌɪ(ə)l/
Learn to pronounce
noun
the action of denying something.
"she shook her head in denial"
Similar:
contradiction
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" Before MMR you say that you felt rewarded only because you got to see your rank" - you got that right. Why do you feel that other people should feel rewarded in the same way as you are?
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Cue the crickets... Is that supposed to be clever or funny? I don't get it.
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Only 6.1% of PC players have Rank 1, despite playing 192 hours on average. So, I call BS on what you believe about rank 1.
I had 200 hours and I only got to rank 3 as survivor. Now my goal of getting to rank 1 is gone forever.
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Ok...but I mean, if that was your reward you still get that with your emblem changing and climbing up as you continue to play. So you get the same thing, only difference is BHVR has out right said that the emblem means nothing, which again the old rankings also literally meant nothing. If they did then I wouldn't have been facing red rank SWF teams when I was still new to the game and just entered green ranks.
At least now the emblems actually will be an indicator for an actual reward when the reset hits. The higher you are with your emblem, the more BP you get. So there's your actual reward, which you can use, unlike just like before where all you can do is flaunt your emblem thinking that it means you got a big pp.
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"The higher you are with your emblem, the more BP you get. So there's your actual reward," - As I said, if that's what you feel is rewarding to you, I'm happy for you. Unfortunately, that doesn't represent skill, so I don't care about it.
"old rankings also literally meant nothing" - if that meant nothing to you, you are entitled to your opinion. I have a different one.
See, everything you said is based on your opinion. Do you feel for some reason that other people should have same opinion? I'm asking because you don't have any facts. You are just describing what you are experiencing and how you feel. But you surely understand that everyone is different, right?
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Your still here? Thought you was leaving?
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With MMR it's precisely as competitive as you want it to be.
With rank based matchmaking, everyone grinded to rank 1 ASAP, and then you had a massive pool of red/purple rank players to match with, with wildly differing results. How is anything about that 'competitive'?
Now, when you get better, so do your opponents. That's competitive.
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Look, I'll save you efforts. You got to try much harder if you want to troll me. If you just trying to increase your post count, carry on, but that is just too primitive.
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Most know I'm not the troll type......Just for real thought you was leaving is all.
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6.1% Of ALL accounts that have DBD, and not only the active DBD players. So you can't rely on it for actual statistics of current active players.
You don't have competitive mindset. Competitive players likes SBMM for the challenge it gives and how hard the matches are when competing against others, and not because some random rank that doesn't mean anything ( yes, it doesn't measure your skills ).
Old Rank : Random matchings, a level 18 can be put to face a SWF consist of R4, R15, R8, R8. Literally no competition, the level 18 will find it hard to compete and will be destroyed no questions asked. Meanwhile the SWF will go ez mode on him and bully him without bothering using a single brain cell and still win easily.
SBMM : Killer and the Survivors have aprox the same ratings, meaning the gap of skill between the two sides are on a similar level making the match fair which in turn create competition between the two sides. Both will have to compete and use their skills to the fullest to see it through.
Which one is good for competitive players ? Ez Answer, SBMM.
"It's dead to me. As in I'm done with it." Words of a wannabe competitive player.
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"Now, when you get better, so do your opponents. That's competitive." - that's correct. But without any measure, you have no idea if you are better.
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