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Why is every survivor so toxic now a days
Like I haven’t played a killer match in ages where every survivor didn’t relentlessly attempt to bully me, flashlight click, tea bag whenever they do anything, finish gens in my face, follow me everywhere I go to force a tunnel, and just sit at exit gate til EGC happens. Like I haven’t had a non toxic match in probably months. I’d say since March.
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It's easy to be toxic as survivor. All you have to do is just press a button over and over. It's why I only play survivor really because I can't stand playing killer for that reason.
But remember that killers can also be toxic, and toxicity will come from both sides, it's just likely more common as survivor since it's easier.
If you can look past it then do that, but if it gets to you then just play survivor and be glad you don't contribute to the toxicity.
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Nothing but the end game chat and other offenses you get banned for are toxic, it doesn't matter what they do in game , even if you facecamp that survivor and nod the whole time you aren't toxic, and finishing gens is part of the game just because you show up as it pops and they don't let you kick it doesn't make them toxic.
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They aren’t. I faced a really sweet 4 man earlier today who were fine in game and wholesome in chat so they definitely do exist. In fact in all my matches today I don’t think I faced a single toxic survivor.
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They have always been toxic >.>
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Personally I think it’s because of the power role mentality. Most SWF are toxic because they know they will win and you can’t really retaliate in any way as killer unless your some godlike nurse or spirit. It’s why school bullies surround themselves with others and pick on shy and less confident people that won’t really fight back. I notice that solo survivors tend to start being toxic once they feel confident their solo team is more skilled than the killer. Killers are toxic sometimes but really depends on your definition of toxic. I define toxic as trying to annoy your opponent without any real in game benefit. By this definition I haven’t ran into a real toxic killer in a long time.
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This post just means they achieved what they wanted. I mean, its the internet, just grow a thinkc skin and dont let it bother you.
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I’ve always hated this argument lol. I have thick skin just because I don’t like people being toxic 24/7 and not being allowed to play killers I enjoy doesn’t mean I don’t have thick skin.
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I guess it depends on luck. I mostly get players that either gg me or keep quiet. So can't say everyone is toxic.
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Like I am new to the game and I don't even want to play because of the toxic survivors. The killers i've played against have been chill
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I wouldn't say that behaviour is toxic, but its not thematic.
Whe survivors are so cocky that they just get in your face all game because in most scenarios you have been poorly matched and can't catch them anyway it really kills the feel of the game.
Nothing worse than a weak antagonist.
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It's probably because all of the toxic killers that love to tunnel, face camp, and slug survivors until they bleed out.
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i just had a match where i didnt camp at egc good enough and they still bagged me OMEGALUL
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Mob mentality:
Its very easy to act horrendously against someone when you know you have people who will back you up that and that outnumber the people your acting horrendously towards.
Aka because survivors don't back up the killer post game is encourages other survivors to attack the killer post game and be toxic mid game because they know there will be no consequences from their peers.
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Butt dance, click click is what offends you? Grow thicker skin I'd say if u wanna enjoy this game
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1.) Bullies like to be in groups with other bullies. So Survivor is the more attractive role for people looking to be rude to others.
2.) DBD can be very frustrating between bugs and the very high skill ceiling, and players can become miserable. "Misery loves company" as the saying goes, so them making you miserable makes them feel a little less miserable.
Can't remember the last time I got a "gg" back. They're usually silent or insulting me in post game chat. Guess that's the Internet for you.
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Both sides have been extremely toxic since sbmm for some reason.
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I mean i'd be high after having 4 minute games where I looped the killer the whole time. Ego trip. The devs allow it. What pitiful killers, they are trying to attack a GOD? Let me put them in their place by being toxic
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Oh please don't come with semantics. It's all a form of mental Provokation and therefore BM (aka bad manners).
The killer ascertaining his "dominance" by nodding over a freshly downed survivor, rubbing in the helplessness of a hanging survivor by repeatedly hitting or survivor with their tbagging or flashlight clicking to show their superiority/feeling of safety against the meant to be threat/edge on a being they normally should lore wise be afraid of.
It all shows a certain kind of mentality behind the controls and is taken mostly in a negative way. (Since gestures that have no clear distinction for their several maybe intended uses but are connected to something negative are most often taken as such.)
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Yeah yeah the old chicken and egg problem.
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That's the same kind of advice as if I would say, don't take getting camped,tunneled or slugged personally.
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Yeah mostly silence in my "friendly" killer rounds and the rare GG's here and there when I get completely destroyed with 1 or 2 hooks.
Getting props for playing "fair" andor letting them go are even more rare.
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The rule of being a bully is to pick on those who can't do you any harm. SWF toxic bully squads go against chill Killers or people trying new Killers/or are simply new players in general, stomp them in game, and then act like they won Olympic gold.
Their tune changes real f$%#in quick when the Killer stomps them in return, not so cool and confident anymore... what a bunch of chumps.
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Who cast the first stone, was it the twerking strobe light, or the mountain climbing cyclops? The world may never know, but I blame survivors because at least a killer is supposed to be mean. We are just role-playing. Tee hee.
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Yeah I think it's the same problem as the question: what was there first, the full Perma breaking hooks savo squad or the 4 slug bleedout killer?
(While i at least think that the former made the latter more prominent)
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I don't know if i say anything is "bullying" in my opinion, if some survs make a mess of me i just say its them trying to win.
Just like when i curbstomp, No quarter given, none asked for. It's very very rarely i let anyone hatch.
" To crush your enemies. See them driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of their women."
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Maybe you can try to tunnel the first one to death and then slug the rest until everyone is out of unbreakable.
On the chat you should drop one of these GEMS:
- "GG" followed by "GG = Git Gud"
OR
- "GG EZ 4K BB SURVIVORS" if you actually killed everyone with that strategy.
Proceed to harverst any SALT they decide to drop and move on to the next match... Keep doing that and hope survivors will someday reflect on what they are doing for themselves.
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I’ve tried to be toxic back but then I just…feel so bad…like it’s not even in losing most of my matches it’s just that most of them are filled to the brink with toxic behavior from the survivor end. Like as nurse today I’ve lost about 1/14 games I played as her the rest I either 2-4k’d but in every single one of those matches 3/4 survivors would tea bag, click click, or straight up just follow me everywhere. I try to avoid survivors who are unhooked or I just hooked because I don’t like tunneling which is why I hate forced tunneling even more because I know I’m the one who gets flamed for it.
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T-bagging, clicking with flashlight or body blocking is not even toxic. Maybe troll behavior but not toxic. I think some people don't even know what toxic is 😐
Getting insulted in chat for example is toxic. if someone is attacking you personal. The list for this is also very long...
Then you can say it is toxic.
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I dunno.
I play Killer and get told to "unalive myself"
This is pretty much every day or every other day. Kinda takes a toll on you mentally.
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You can tell it is a survivor main because they do not know the word "kill."
Do not let those little psychos get you down. That is all they have, their frustrations. It is like a little 5 year old screaming into a pillow, fam. They just do not know any better. But the pillow just has to take it, because it is a pillow. Sad fate for the pillow, but you are better than that because you are not a pillow. This is the wisdom of the Bodhisattva.
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Because people claim that survivors cant do anything toxic and its just them playing the game.
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Maybe, but I worry about people who are in a bad place mentally. I worry obsessively that these people are going to push someone over the edge.
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I guess you probably already know that but using u alive instead of kill in this circumstances is simply a way to circumvent the chat filter and dodge any form of automated chat based Ban system.
It really amazing how much effort and creativity people put into this to be jerks in online Video Games.
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I do too. My closest family member actually tried to end her life. It was a real wake up call for me and I am extremely lucky she warned me as others do not get that second chance. I used to make jokes about it, and looking back, I wonder what was wrong with me and how I could have ever found that funny, or had the attitude that people who struggle with those issues are just weak, mentally. It is really immature and I hope nobody actually has to experience that sensation. It does scare me a bit, thinking that people might have actually made that decision based on some apathetic loser that used their anonymity to lash out at someone in an extremely unhealthy way.
People are strange...
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The survivors, when they've had an easy game via cracked gen speed, they feel unsatisfied because they didn't have to work for a thing. So they try to make themselves feel better by putting the killer down. They're the power role, so they're gonna milk it and bully the killer for kicks.
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I am sorry that you and your family member have gone through that, but I am glad it turned out okay.
It makes me angry honestly. I was in that state a few years ago and something like that easily could've pushed me into doing something rash. It angers me that people are so insecure and upset that they need to say such heinous things to feel better.
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No worries I got my ds for that and I'm playing with my friends you know with ppl that aren't bots and doesn't have brain damage so for me camping and tunneling is flattering because I waste so much killers time that they drop whole match
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Well that's good for you then. (No sarcasm or cynism)
I am still hesitant to play solo survivor for the first time since I have low self esteem and am afraid to be one of the brain dead teammates to others.
Not a real healthy mind set if it has so much control over me, I know, but at least i feel some responsibility in every aspect of my life instead of giving no crap like some other special individuals once the person becomes anonymous and unpunishable.
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I'll come with it all day , it's a game and all these people are here for fun it literally doesn't affect you what happens in game unless you're one of those egotistical players who thinks they're the best ever and gets all up in their feelings over some pixels humping the ground which is pathetic, the way people get offended and can't brush off a loss or any of what you listed in the first post is whats wrong with this game everyone is soft and cries their eyes out over everything, I'm out here for fun there are plenty of times I've made friends with people Ive done that to and who have done it to me because what happens in game isnt a personal attack on your family that you have to rush to the forums to whine about
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Solo queue is idk definitely do try it but often it's very frustrating and you feel like you don't have power in ur hands at all because no matter how good u are you're get killed by team just last night I got left to die on hook after running pinhead for 4 gens they were so altruistic to finish that last one that they forgot to save me and after all they all died idk how they managed that tbh
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Poor map design, quick gen speeds, and incredibly powerful second chance perks give survivors incentive to bully, play recklessly, and treat the killer like a joke. Experienced survivors know they can get away with it because the developers are out of touch and blindly follow data across low and mid tier skill levels primarily, which means map RNG/parameters are designed with that experience in mind. As survivors get better at the game, the system goes from barely acceptable to absolutely broken, especially when tile linking and pallet conservation become the norm.
For a decrease in survivor toxicity, you'd need to flip the roles. All killers would need to become powerful enough to compete with the best survivors, and while some people will always try and tilt their opposition by being obnoxious, a lot of people would suddenly become far less bold if they knew there was a huge risk of going down quickly. Knowing there's a loop nearby (or several of them linked together due to bad RNG) that guarantees complete safety emboldens the worst of the survivor player base to act the way they do.
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You’re literally the person you described. You’re extremely egotistical and take offense that I said not to be toxic lol.
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Yeah like I’ll still get a 2k at least but Jesus every match is toxic. Can’t recall when I just had a survivor leave through the gate instead of waiting til the timer hit 1%
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have you guys seen otzdarva's latest streams? He would get the occasional tea bagger after dropping a pallet. which is pretty mild as far as BM is concerned. After the match, the survivor immediately apologizes for being toxic in-game but only because they versed against the biggest DBD streamer.
Darva would get quite annoyed because if it was just a random no-name killer, they wouldn't have given them the same courtesy and he would call them out on it. So it's not like they DON'T have self awareness, they are fully aware they are trying to get under the skin of the killer during the game, and then at the exit gates to rub it in.
They know they are toxic, but they just don't care; they only care if they went against otzdarva after the fact, with 10K people watching his stream.
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It goes hand in hand. It can start on either side. Killer can't deal with looping properly and gets tired of playing "nice" decides to play as scummy as they can. Those survivors get pissed and decide to be as toxic as they can and assume all killers will try and be as scummy as can be so they take that energy to every game they play. Potentially making that killer to decide to be scummy or whatever. Or the reverse where survivor loop hard and teabag and all that stuff killer gets scummy so on and so forth.
The only real way I can think to stop all of it would be to start making things bannable offenses. Teabaggin killer, tunneling or camping. Just because they're seen as toxic playstyles, but then you have to define what is and isn't tunneling or camping and piss off players that love to use those tactics and hear their bitching about legit playstyles. This'll never happen so..toxic community it is
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I don't take any offense to it you can insult all you want I don't mind a bit, I just don't consider the same stuff toxic
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Sorry, that happened to you Pulsar you honestly don't deserve that nobody does. You are amazing and truly a great person to be around I may not know you, but honestly you just seem like a very likable person. So don't ever listen to them you are great. :)
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Common nature of onlne PvP unfortunately. With the 1v4 concept, it's even worse.
DBD has been a PS+ game etc and thus extended to a wider audience. Although that's not necessarily a reason in itself, the game has reached a wider variety of players, many well-versed in being toxic.
More often than not, when you encounter one of these little toxic crapbags, on PS4 at least, their user profile has all the usual suspects, Fortnite, Warzone, Rocket League etc. Often accompanied by an anime avatar and obnoxious profile message. It's tedious really.
Those hilarious 'content creators' streaming videos joyfully championing the process of annoying the killer until they disconnect don't help either. But who cares: start with "Whats happening guys?" and end with "like and subscribe!".
The sheep watch the videos, learn all the tricks and cheap tactics etc...see how the "cool kids" act...and then have fun attempting to make others miserable by spoiling their experience.
A tale as old as time.
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You write a novel. Clearly you took offense.
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Just because I explained my opinion on a gaming forum intended to put your opinion on doesn't mean I took offense think what you want it doesn't bother me a bit I could honestly care less what you think about me
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