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Anyone know when Kindred is gonna be a base part of the game?

MyNamePete
MyNamePete Member Posts: 1,053
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Im assuming it would be in the winter update?

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  • mcNuggets
    mcNuggets Member Posts: 767

    It is a good idea against swf.
    swf can already tell, so why should non swf not be able to?

  • MyNamePete
    MyNamePete Member Posts: 1,053

    @yeet said:
    probably never, it wasn't a good idea and it shouldn't be implemented 

    Wym probably never? Are you just do iNg the
    m e m e? Because the devs said they were gonna add it soon back in August.

  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832
    MyNamePete said:

    @yeet said:
    probably never, it wasn't a good idea and it shouldn't be implemented 

    Wym probably never? Are you just do iNg the
    m e m e? Because the devs said they were gonna add it soon back in August.

    it seems like they figured out it wasn't a good thing
    the devs say they're gonna do a lot of things, but never do them
    free kindred would also probably be something you wouldn't want either, because it would come with significant killer buffs and would most likely end up being a net loss for survivors in terms of power.
  • MyNamePete
    MyNamePete Member Posts: 1,053

    @yeet said:
    MyNamePete said:

    @yeet said:

    probably never, it wasn't a good idea and it shouldn't be implemented 

    Wym probably never? Are you just do iNg the

    m e m e? Because the devs said they were gonna add it soon back in August.

    it seems like they figured out it wasn't a good thing
    the devs say they're gonna do a lot of things, but never do them
    free kindred would also probably be something you wouldn't want either, because it would come with significant killer buffs and would most likely end up being a net loss for survivors in terms of power.

    Could you explain? Also most of the things the devs haven't done are because of the normie stuff like they're too busy or whatever. Kindred is already IN the game, they would just have to make it a base component on survivors.

  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,888

    Where did you get the idea that this would happen?

  • MyNamePete
    MyNamePete Member Posts: 1,053

    @Dreamnomad said:
    Where did you get the idea that this would happen?

    They said it in a QnA back in August

  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,888

    @MyNamePete said:

    @Dreamnomad said:
    Where did you get the idea that this would happen?

    They said it in a QnA back in August

    Can you link it?

  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832
    MyNamePete said:

    @yeet said:
    MyNamePete said:

    @yeet said:

    probably never, it wasn't a good idea and it shouldn't be implemented 

    Wym probably never? Are you just do iNg the

    m e m e? Because the devs said they were gonna add it soon back in August.

    it seems like they figured out it wasn't a good thing
    the devs say they're gonna do a lot of things, but never do them
    free kindred would also probably be something you wouldn't want either, because it would come with significant killer buffs and would most likely end up being a net loss for survivors in terms of power.

    Could you explain? Also most of the things the devs haven't done are because of the normie stuff like they're too busy or whatever. Kindred is already IN the game, they would just have to make it a base component on survivors.

    And? Hiding the killers perks and add-ons would be a pretty quick fix but they haven't done it for years.
    Not to mention giving survivors base kindred would need A LOT of extra balancing.
  • MyNamePete
    MyNamePete Member Posts: 1,053

    @Dreamnomad said:

    @MyNamePete said:

    @Dreamnomad said:
    Where did you get the idea that this would happen?

    They said it in a QnA back in August

    Can you link it?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw-ReSg0Ol4

    Pretty sure it's this one, I don't know when they bring it up though.

  • MyNamePete
    MyNamePete Member Posts: 1,053

    @yeet said:
    MyNamePete said:

    @yeet said:

    MyNamePete said:

    @yeet said:

probably never, it wasn't a good idea and it shouldn't be implemented 



Wym probably never? Are you just do iNg the

m e  m e? Because the devs said they were gonna add it soon back in August.



it seems like they figured out it wasn't a good thing

    the devs say they're gonna do a lot of things, but never do them

    free kindred would also probably be something you wouldn't want either, because it would come with significant killer buffs and would most likely end up being a net loss for survivors in terms of power.

    Could you explain? Also most of the things the devs haven't done are because of the normie stuff like they're too busy or whatever. Kindred is already IN the game, they would just have to make it a base component on survivors.

    And? Hiding the killers perks and add-ons would be a pretty quick fix but they haven't done it for years.
    Not to mention giving survivors base kindred would need A LOT of extra balancing.

    You have a good point with that one, but I dont see the need for extra balancing. It's like if every survivor ran Kindred in a match already. It gives an advantage to random survivors so SWF aren't 'op'.

  • Whisky_Glass
    Whisky_Glass Member Posts: 49
    Kindred is a must in my solo build, although i'd love to have it for free and use that slot for something else i think it would be too much.
    Some survivors should learn already that there are other useful perks which let the whole group to work more efficiently and start to use them, because focusing on the objectives gives to the whole group more chances to survive instead of messing around.
  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832
    MyNamePete said:

    @yeet said:
    MyNamePete said:

    @yeet said:

    MyNamePete said:

    @yeet said:

probably never, it wasn't a good idea and it shouldn't be implemented 



Wym probably never? Are you just do iNg the

m e  m e? Because the devs said they were gonna add it soon back in August.



it seems like they figured out it wasn't a good thing

    the devs say they're gonna do a lot of things, but never do them

    free kindred would also probably be something you wouldn't want either, because it would come with significant killer buffs and would most likely end up being a net loss for survivors in terms of power.

    Could you explain? Also most of the things the devs haven't done are because of the normie stuff like they're too busy or whatever. Kindred is already IN the game, they would just have to make it a base component on survivors.

    And? Hiding the killers perks and add-ons would be a pretty quick fix but they haven't done it for years.
    Not to mention giving survivors base kindred would need A LOT of extra balancing.

    You have a good point with that one, but I dont see the need for extra balancing. It's like if every survivor ran Kindred in a match already. It gives an advantage to random survivors so SWF aren't 'op'.

    You're blind if you don't see how much extra power a free perk would give to the already stronger role. Additionally giving survivors kindred makes SWF AND solos both significantly stronger, you can't hurt SWF by buffing survivors, thats absurd reasoning.
    If survivors want free kindred you're going to have to learn to stomach it with significant survivor nerfs across the board.
  • Global
    Global Member Posts: 770

    IF kindred becomes a base mechanic they need to buff/change insidious. The perk THEY made for camping yet they see camping as a thing of satan. But whatever just another useless perk getting nerfed is all.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @mcNuggets said:
    It is a good idea against swf.
    swf can already tell, so why should non swf not be able to?

    Because they would need to buff killers accordingly

  • mcNuggets
    mcNuggets Member Posts: 767

    @Master said:

    @mcNuggets said:
    It is a good idea against swf.
    swf can already tell, so why should non swf not be able to?

    Because they would need to buff killers accordingly

    They already need to buff killers.
    So why should it matter if they buff solo?

  • DocFabron
    DocFabron Member Posts: 2,410
    Who knows? 

    But it should only be implemented when killers get a hefty buff to compensate.
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Master said:

    @mcNuggets said:
    It is a good idea against swf.
    swf can already tell, so why should non swf not be able to?

    Because they would need to buff killers accordingly

    They already need to buff killers.
    So why should it matter if they buff solo?

    Because that would made the situation only worse

  • mcNuggets
    mcNuggets Member Posts: 767

    @Master said:

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Master said:

    @mcNuggets said:
    It is a good idea against swf.
    swf can already tell, so why should non swf not be able to?

    Because they would need to buff killers accordingly

    They already need to buff killers.
    So why should it matter if they buff solo?

    Because that would made the situation only worse

    It wouldn't.
    Devs cant prevent survivors from talking with each other but give the sole survivors chances the swf survivors have and buff killers to a level where everyone has fun without restriction.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Master said:

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Master said:

    @mcNuggets said:
    It is a good idea against swf.
    swf can already tell, so why should non swf not be able to?

    Because they would need to buff killers accordingly

    They already need to buff killers.
    So why should it matter if they buff solo?

    Because that would made the situation only worse

    It wouldn't.
    Devs cant prevent survivors from talking with each other but give the sole survivors chances the swf survivors have and buff killers to a level where everyone has fun without restriction.

    Right now everyone acts like SWAT SWFs never happen.
    The devs show no intention to buff killers accordingly, assuming that solo survivors are lift up to SWF lvl.

    Once the devs have figured out how they can balance the game aroudn SWF, then they can add ingame voice comms and apply these balancing changes. Thats the only proper solution to this problem

  • mcNuggets
    mcNuggets Member Posts: 767

    @Master said:

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Master said:

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Master said:

    @mcNuggets said:
    It is a good idea against swf.
    swf can already tell, so why should non swf not be able to?

    Because they would need to buff killers accordingly

    They already need to buff killers.
    So why should it matter if they buff solo?

    Because that would made the situation only worse

    It wouldn't.
    Devs cant prevent survivors from talking with each other but give the sole survivors chances the swf survivors have and buff killers to a level where everyone has fun without restriction.

    Right now everyone acts like SWAT SWFs never happen.
    The devs show no intention to buff killers accordingly, assuming that solo survivors are lift up to SWF lvl.

    Once the devs have figured out how they can balance the game aroudn SWF, then they can add ingame voice comms and apply these balancing changes. Thats the only proper solution to this problem

    Ingame voice comm is not needed.
    There are a lot different options to pick to make sole survivor experience better.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Master said:

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Master said:

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Master said:

    @mcNuggets said:
    It is a good idea against swf.
    swf can already tell, so why should non swf not be able to?

    Because they would need to buff killers accordingly

    They already need to buff killers.
    So why should it matter if they buff solo?

    Because that would made the situation only worse

    It wouldn't.
    Devs cant prevent survivors from talking with each other but give the sole survivors chances the swf survivors have and buff killers to a level where everyone has fun without restriction.

    Right now everyone acts like SWAT SWFs never happen.
    The devs show no intention to buff killers accordingly, assuming that solo survivors are lift up to SWF lvl.

    Once the devs have figured out how they can balance the game aroudn SWF, then they can add ingame voice comms and apply these balancing changes. Thats the only proper solution to this problem

    Ingame voice comm is not needed.
    There are a lot different options to pick to make sole survivor experience better.

    There is no way to properly compensate for real time communication, introducing voice comms is the natural way to fix this problem and its also the easiest one to balance

  • mcNuggets
    mcNuggets Member Posts: 767

    @Master said:

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Master said:

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Master said:

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Master said:

    @mcNuggets said:
    It is a good idea against swf.
    swf can already tell, so why should non swf not be able to?

    Because they would need to buff killers accordingly

    They already need to buff killers.
    So why should it matter if they buff solo?

    Because that would made the situation only worse

    It wouldn't.
    Devs cant prevent survivors from talking with each other but give the sole survivors chances the swf survivors have and buff killers to a level where everyone has fun without restriction.

    Right now everyone acts like SWAT SWFs never happen.
    The devs show no intention to buff killers accordingly, assuming that solo survivors are lift up to SWF lvl.

    Once the devs have figured out how they can balance the game aroudn SWF, then they can add ingame voice comms and apply these balancing changes. Thats the only proper solution to this problem

    Ingame voice comm is not needed.
    There are a lot different options to pick to make sole survivor experience better.

    There is no way to properly compensate for real time communication, introducing voice comms is the natural way to fix this problem and its also the easiest one to balance

    They stated, they don't want to introduce voice comm, so I don't think they are gonna do it.
    Still, if they ain't gonna do it, there are a lot of different options than voice to fix the balance issue here.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Master said:

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Master said:

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Master said:

    @mcNuggets said:

    @Master said:

    @mcNuggets said:
    It is a good idea against swf.
    swf can already tell, so why should non swf not be able to?

    Because they would need to buff killers accordingly

    They already need to buff killers.
    So why should it matter if they buff solo?

    Because that would made the situation only worse

    It wouldn't.
    Devs cant prevent survivors from talking with each other but give the sole survivors chances the swf survivors have and buff killers to a level where everyone has fun without restriction.

    Right now everyone acts like SWAT SWFs never happen.
    The devs show no intention to buff killers accordingly, assuming that solo survivors are lift up to SWF lvl.

    Once the devs have figured out how they can balance the game aroudn SWF, then they can add ingame voice comms and apply these balancing changes. Thats the only proper solution to this problem

    Ingame voice comm is not needed.
    There are a lot different options to pick to make sole survivor experience better.

    There is no way to properly compensate for real time communication, introducing voice comms is the natural way to fix this problem and its also the easiest one to balance

    They stated, they don't want to introduce voice comm, so I don't think they are gonna do it.
    Still, if they ain't gonna do it, there are a lot of different options than voice to fix the balance issue here.

    They also said that they dont want clowns as killer, look what we got now.

    I am open to suggestion, provide your different option to fix the SWF balance issue, I am curious

  • ad19970
    ad19970 Member Posts: 6,356

    @yeet said:
    MyNamePete said:

    @yeet said:

    MyNamePete said:

    @yeet said:

MyNamePete said:

    @yeet said: probably never, it wasn't a good idea and it shouldn't be implemented  Wym probably never? Are you just do iNg the m e m e? Because the devs said they were gonna add it soon back in August. it seems like they figured out it wasn't a good thing

    the devs say they're gonna do a lot of things, but never do them

free kindred would also probably be something you wouldn't want either, because it would come with significant killer buffs and would most likely end up being a net loss for survivors in terms of power.



Could you explain? Also most of the things the devs haven't done are because of the normie stuff like they're too busy or whatever. Kindred is already IN the game, they would just have to make it a base component on survivors.



And? Hiding the killers perks and add-ons would be a pretty quick fix but they haven't done it for years.

    Not to mention giving survivors base kindred would need A LOT of extra balancing.

    You have a good point with that one, but I dont see the need for extra balancing. It's like if every survivor ran Kindred in a match already. It gives an advantage to random survivors so SWF aren't 'op'.

    You're blind if you don't see how much extra power a free perk would give to the already stronger role. Additionally giving survivors kindred makes SWF AND solos both significantly stronger, you can't hurt SWF by buffing survivors, thats absurd reasoning.
    If survivors want free kindred you're going to have to learn to stomach it with significant survivor nerfs across the board.

    Well obviously the game will need additional balancing. Just buffing solo survivors will make most killers a little less viable. But this is something they absolutely need to do, in fact kindred isn't the only perk that swf pretty much have equipped without using a perk slot. Equipping Bond for example is also more or less useless in a 4 man swf, because they can just communicate where they are. Also, pretty sure survivors are only considered the stronger role because of swf.
    They need to buff solo survivors and then balance the game around swf, buffing all the weaker killers, or you know, maybe finally giving us a gen rush nerf (in conjunction with some smaller killer nerfs of course), which people have been asking for.