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Flashlights at pallets toxic?
I just read someone describing a flashlight at a pallet as toxic. Why is it toxic? My thought is just that the person describing it doesn't realize it's 500 extra BP to blind a killer and it's easier to get flashlight challenges done at a pallet. As well, it seems to give the survivor an extra second or so to get away. Are there people who do it to be toxic?
And I apologize beforehand to anyone this doesn't apply to but I have seen a small amount of posters who say 'entitled killer mains' to valid killer posts. None of that please here. I'm new, I play both sides, and I'm just trying to understand each side's perspective; not dismiss them.
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no it's not toxic, neither is clicking or tbagging. Idk how people get so heated over somebody pressing their crouch or use item button a few times. All I see are survivors having a little rave and dance.
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That person must not play with headphones or surround sound.
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Nearly always I avoid clicking and mostly I ignore teabagging because it's either (a) someone who's a strong looper trying to aggro me but my best chance for catching them is after I've killed their teammates or b) someone whose ego leads them to make bad tactical decisions. It's the post-game chat where I've normally seen toxic players.
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I do not like it. If you do it, you get face camped. Simple as that. And just like flashlights aren't toxic, face camping and hammer smashing your face on hook is not toxic, uwu. Toxicity is about words, not in game mechanics, I have you know!
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I don't see it toxic. Flash light blinds are only really possible when the killer is locked in an animation how else would you be able to blind them?
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Completely valid reason. I just didn't see it as toxic.
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Its not toxic its like if i start saying tunneling and camping are toxic those thing are a strat in the game
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Exactly, it is not toxic, I am just a Mogwai that hates bright lights. It is a bit of a personal problem. You can clicky click all you want and I will not react, but you shine that thing in my sensitive wittle eyes and its going down.
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I got pm by a blight literally yesterday saying I was toxic for stunning him with pallet then dropping the flash bang..and saving my friend he was hard tunneling and face camping at the exit opens..... umm ok then am not to use a perk that I find more less toxic over a flash light, which I hate and am a survivor main? Alright I guess ill just carry it in my hand for prize or pass it on to my team mates then.
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We finally agree on something here!!!!!!!!!!
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Thank you, I didn't think it was toxic. To me, toxic is hate messages in post game chat or when you don't camp or tunnel and say 'gg' after but survivors still mock and/or insult you after (only an occasional, not a common occurrence) Besides, if you like farming BP, which I think you should do as a new player, you need to learn how to use a flashlight and the easiest way is if the killer is in an animation.
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That's not toxic. That's a strategy.
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don't worry about camping or tunnelling or post game chat and always remember that it's a game. And sometimes camping and tunnelling is the right strategy to use. Don't get caught up in calling things toxic because X person doesn't like it and just enjoy the game. :)
I recommend you watch Spooks N Jukes, he has a very healthy mindset and watching him may help you enjoy the game even more.
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Because it's commonly accepted as BM and a form of nasty gloating within videogames. It's only done to taunt and belitte someone you've beaten, there is zero other purpose.
Shrug. I got Steam stalked by a smurfing .TTV group because I ran Devour Hope and they didn't deal with it.
This game is a machine designed to produce toxicity, and needs a bombing run of heavy moderation and conduct bans.
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damn really? I thought they were just having a happy dance in these trying times :(
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Ok amma put my hand on the killers sides right now, complaining of NOED is one thing, but complaining of Devour hope, I find that as a survivor main a very stupid petty thing. Killers have to invest and work hard for devour hope, its on the survivors fault who is not good at looping or hiding. Please give me devour hope over noed anytime or day. If survivor just watch themselves and be more aware, then devour hope is nothing unlike noed now I can understand the frustration.
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I really like Devour Hope and BBQ and Chili's design for the simple fact they award players for not tunneling. It makes a far more interesting game.
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Sorry, I meant not camping.
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Its not really toxic, its probably the best way to get challenges like the stun challenge, etc.
The real problem here is BHVR thinking mechanics which take away your vision for long periods of time are OK in a game that is very time sensitive.
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Do the best thing like me if your on me on console, set your settings to friends message only, this way the salty one who attempts to buzz you have just wasted time and may now be throwing their console/pc/tv out of the window of a 10 story building.
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You need to also turn friend requests off. All of the snowflakes on Overwatch know this technique.
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They aren't.
That's playing a killer.
If someone runs into you off the hook, you are a tunneller.
If someone unhooks in your face and you down them, you are a dirty camper.
Play a meta killer with good perks? 'LOL carried much **** trash killer l2p'.
Play an off meta killer or use odd perks? 'LOL play normally **** trash scrub'.
Give the enemy team a break after they have a DC? 'OMG *** just end it reported for holding the game hostage'.
Wipe the enemy team after they have a DC? 'OMG *** stop being sweaty let ppl farm reported for unsportsmanlike'.
Lose? 'LOL **** scrub EZ uninstall games full'.
I had to set my Steam profile to private due to this game, and only this game. Some survivor players seem legitimately unhinged.
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It can also give me a shattering headache, especially if I'm playing at night.
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yeah XD its a miracle
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It's not toxic - it's self defense.
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If I gave you the middle finger, would that be toxic?
Some would say yes, because I'm telling them to basically "F off" in their mind. While others, who aren't familiar with this aggressive use, would say no and ask why it would be considered as such.
Crouch spamming, flashlight spamming, etc, are considered toxic likely because of other's experience with those actions being used to imply insults or derogatory abuse after a game. I mean, c'mon, crouch spamming is often referred to "T-bagging" which, by itself, implies negative actions towards someone that would actually be considered sexual harassment in a real life setting.
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I personally try not to get offended by these things. But if people do, I also think it's not too hard to understand why they can be offended given that the actions are regularly associated with negative behaviour by actual toxic individuals.
That said, don't worry about it too much.
If you offend someone without intending to, just apologize and move on. If they dwell on it, that's unfortunate, but there's nothing else you can do for them.
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I went into a rant about why actions are toxic, when the question specifically was about flashlighting at pallets.
My answer is still relevant, in that it depends on the person and not to worry about it. That said, I've never heard of flashlighting after a pallet stun (without click spamming) being toxic, so that's not a standard I'm aware of.
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On behalf of every killer that uses lightborne its not only okay but preferred.
For real tho don't care. As long as you're not running your mouth after a match it's fine.
While these things can be done with bad intent its also not something people should get as upset as they do over.
People with legitimately bad mental problems shouldn't be playing dbd. It's like drinking heavily while on meds and blaming the doctor and the liquor store that you died. I say this as a person on medication for severe depression. When I'm in a bad place, I don't play games like this. It's not good for me, so I stop untill I am sure I am healthy again.
I say this because everytime it's pointed out that getting upset over someone being potentially rude is pointless people say "but what if they are mentally ill!". We have a responsibility to take care of ourselves. It's not a random strangers fault if I go off me meds or choose to expose myself to something I know I can't handle when I'm in a bad way. People shouldn't try and be #########, but people are flawed and scared. Just like you.
So seriously, don't care. If you are trying to be an ######### then ######### you for asking. If you're not then you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
There... pretty sure that is everything you can say on the subject.
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Nope.
Using a macro to rapidly click the flashlight is toxic, but using it like a normal person isn't.
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As long as you're not clicking, it's fine.
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nor hitting survivors on hook, I am just roleplaying I'm a killer torturing somebody ona hook, because you know this is a horror game and I'm a killer.
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The problem I think with flashlights at pallets, is that when you are in the animation to break a pallet, you have no control, so you cannot move your head to avoid it, you are stuck with the blind
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idk how blinding killers at pallets is toxic, it’s helped me win chases.
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Flashlighting a killer at a pallet to blind them is a tactical decision - it masks the direction you escape in and it gets bloodpoints. It's also the easiest way to blind a killer if you're doing one of the several tome challenges that require it, because blinds are nearly impossible without an animation lock.
Some killers will still yell at you for this, but there's people who get angry about everything.
Clicky-clickying at a pallet is just being a dick.
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When i play killer or survivor and see someone do this, i do find it toxic. Because when you pallet the killer is stunned. They cant turn around or anything and you decide to double that stun. Sure you get away practically guaranteed, but you just stunned them, at least let them recover before stunning them again...
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