shadowstep is an incentive to camp
I haven't seen shadowstep much so far. Its mostly the healing boon.
However several games now, mostly those with shadowstep, have nothing coming up on BBQ for me when I hook someone.
Basically its either everyone's aura is hidden or they are all hanging around the hook. Its doesn't really incentivise me to leave, at least not very far.
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That isn't even close to my biggest problem with that monster of a perk.
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If you think camping is the best option there then you are free to do it. Survivors can still do most if not all of the remaining generators before the hooked person dies because you didn't put any pressure on them, Shadowstep doesn't change this.
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I respectfully disagree with that- knowing that Shadow Step is in the game and popular right now, you're basically agreeing to getting little value out of the aura-reading half of BBQ. You know that going in, so you know a lack of auras doesn't exactly mean very much, y'know?
There are still plenty of reasons to leave the hook, either from perks you want to make work (Make Your Choice, Devour Hope, etc) or because you want to go pressure gens anyway. Camping is a legit choice here- but it's not really being incentivised any more here.
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shadowstep is a convenient excuse for you to camp, but it's not incentive.
just be shameless dude. if you hate camping don't do it. if you wanna camp then do it. it's your game, play it how you like.
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Lol, these days a survivor blowing their nose is an incentive to camp. There were counters to BBQ long before shadowstep came into play. If you want to camp then camp, it's not against the rules, but the list of excuses to camp is getting silly now. Just do what you gotta do. You want to defend your hook, go nuts buddy.
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Camping just because you don't see auras is a great way to have 3 gens go off really quickly.
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I’ve never been much of a fan of BBQ to be honest, I tend to like other perks like Thrilling Tremors or Discordance or Surveillance better, and those all have the benefit in the current boon meta of not being as vulnerable to Shadowstep.
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I must admit I really got into Surveillance when I played killer. Such a handy perk that isn't always anticipated over the more commonly used perks.
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Yeah, even without Ruin you can still get value out of Surveillance by kicking gens when you’re not in a chase. Kick a gen, keep looking for survivors, and the instant a white gen turns red you know to immediately go back.
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This implies that distortion encourages camping, same with lockers
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You are correct. Without the information that an aura provides, there is little incentive to leave, especially if you hook at an active gen.
Never feel bad about camping or tunneling, because it's an intended part of gameplay. Anyone who complains about camping and tunneling is simply a salty loser who can't handle occasional boredom.
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It never came to your mind that survivors could be hiding behind gens or in lockers as the most common way to deal with BBQ, which is why you wouldnt see any aura? i guess not, cause youre reliant on aura reading to find survivors.
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It’s a miracle people ever played killer before BBQ was released, isn’t it? /s
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Shadowstep is annoying as hell but it’s not really an excuse to camp more than you normally would.
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With how op survivors are right now, i don't see how you wouldn't run full hex builds on m1 killers.
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That’s just explaining how BBQ (and it’s many counters) are incentive/encouraging camping and doesn’t have much to to with Shadowstep.
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The game has became a camp and tunnel fest. It happens 80% of the trials and i understand why the killers do it, it's impossible to win any trial without camping/tunneling.
Killers are way, way too weak now.
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ok so I realise that camping is a legit choice and I have no issues with doing it or being on the receiving end.
getting upset about game mechanics is silly.
But you often make the decision to camp based on info when you hook someone.
In shadow step games there is often no info so it kinda makes me want to hang out at the hook. A lot of players tell me to uninstall, get cancer or kill myself if I do that.
Maybe if camping upsets people shadowstep isn’t the boon to run. That is all.
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If they actually write that, that’s a legitimate reason to report them for chat harassment. You only need to make an in-game report for that as the chat log will automatically be saved with the report.
they don’t get perma-banned from doing it once, but they get a warning and there is a ban escalation system if they won’t stop
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Killers have been camping with BBQ for years, just say you wanna camp and do it, killers constantly use the "Well if this is being used I'm going to camp" just do it and move on.
I hold M1 on gens because killers use PGTW, stop using gen regression perks and maybe I wouldn't do gens... lol.
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No excuse for vile comments, I’m sorry you experienced that and please report them. But as said above, it could be anything: Shadow Step, Distortion, Sole Survivor, lockers, or being within 40m of the hook. Shadow Step also has the fierce ability of hiding scratch marks, so it’s not only for the aura blocking.
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never an excuse and I know there ar emany ways to hide your aura even without perks specific to it. But you usually see either one or two people moving around or hiding poorly. You don't need that to find someone but when noone pops up its kinda okay I'm gonna hang out a lil here. Shadowstep has been a big player in that.
Its been a big survior streak the last day or two and we have been taking full advantage of the boons to try em out and they feel a lil oppressive so far.
Same reason we don't really use comms as a group (outside of some laughs and banter) because we find its too easy with all the extra communication during game. Add in group wide super healing and hiding and its an escape fest that isn't really survival horror.
I'm not saying boons have to be deleted blah blah blah, but definitely a tweak or two. They are a lil nuts.
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By that logic lockers and distortion are an incentive to camp.
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As is hiding behind a generator.
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I love the Boons. Means I can Camp and tunnel guilt free 😁😁
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It can be pretty obvious when people do that and gens only allow good hiding at the right angle and 80% of people screw that up.
Distortion hides one player a limited number of times.
Shadowstep is distortion on crack. When set up right.
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Basically, don't use the counters to this perk (and many others) or I'll camp.
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