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Remove 4 SWF and Nerf Killers

ConsoleNurse
ConsoleNurse Member Posts: 170
in General Discussions
Swf should be only 2 people and game should be balanced around that.Not every game 4 DS 4 Adrenalin and insta heals

Comments

  • ConsoleNurse
    ConsoleNurse Member Posts: 170
    redsopine1 said:
    Not every game has that and the 4 man teams are sometimes the only way to score the hatch escape trophy for everyone in the game
    Remove 4 man trophies too
  • redsopine1
    redsopine1 Member Posts: 1,437
    Then get rid of the evil within trophy as well as only a 4man swf team would let you do it
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Tsulan said:
    So... why nerf killers?

    I have so many equal opportunity responses that pop to mind here, all of them highly sarcastic.

  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    They should just put an icon above person's head in the lobby if they are swf

  • BigBubs
    BigBubs Member Posts: 1,131

    I'd be ok with 3 people max but 2 is a bit too much.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Tsulan said:
    So... why nerf killers?

    If they take away 4 mans, then they need to tune down nurse a lil, I agree on that.
    But SWF will never be removed (not even 4 mans), so the other killers need to be tuned up to deal with them

  • ModernFable
    ModernFable Member Posts: 836
    From what they’ve said in the past, SWF is here to stay and probably won’t receive any direct adjustments.

    It’s more likely that they’ll work towards shortening the gap between Solo and SWF, like they did with the obsession change.

    And then while they do that, they provide supplemental Killer buffs.
  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,965

    @BigBubs said:
    I'd be ok with 3 people max but 2 is a bit too much.

    Those are some of the worst games. Poor rando gets thrown under the bus by the SWF or the rando does nothing useful. It's a rare game that the random pulls his/her weight and/or doesn't get screwed.

  • PinkEricka
    PinkEricka Member Posts: 1,042
    Well_Placed_HexTotem said:
    Survivors play because they like to bully killers with their SWF meta. Take it away and a large portion of the playerbase is gone.
    @Well_Placed_HexTotem Or we play to play with our friends...?
  • Rebel_Raven
    Rebel_Raven Member Posts: 1,775

    I really hate the abuse of SWF, but it's not going anywhere.
    Gotta watch the lobby, see if they pop in all at once. If they do, you gotta:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvS6zMThiZU

  • Chrona
    Chrona Member Posts: 245
    If you remove SWF, survivors will lobby dodge to get into the same lobby as their friends, like they apparently did before swf was implimented. 
  • makayla
    makayla Member Posts: 287

    If you remove SWF or make SWF only have 2 people, the majority of the playerbase will be angry about it and disappear, then killers won't get lobbies and the game will quickly die. Is that what you want? Most SWF aren't even the toxic kind, they just want to play with their friends because solo survivor for most people is boring as hell.

  • BigBubs
    BigBubs Member Posts: 1,131
    edited November 2018

    @Chrona said:
    If you remove SWF, survivors will lobby dodge to get into the same lobby as their friends, like they apparently did before swf was implimented. 

    That's exactly what happened, I had witnessed it in person :D

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:
    So... why nerf killers?

    I have so many equal opportunity responses that pop to mind here, all of them highly sarcastic.

    Freddy op, pls nerf?
  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    Master said:

    @Tsulan said:
    So... why nerf killers?

    If they take away 4 mans, then they need to tune down nurse a lil, I agree on that.
    But SWF will never be removed (not even 4 mans), so the other killers need to be tuned up to deal with them

    Killers need buffs, every killer should be on Billy's level. This also means a small nerf for the nurse while making her easier to play at the same time.

    Now survivor mains will claim that killers have long queues, because they are to easy. We'll see how the queues are after the rank reset. 
  • Attackfrog
    Attackfrog Member Posts: 1,134
    HellDescent said:

    They should just put an icon above person's head in the lobby if they are swf

    Yes! Such an easy fix! Us killers can't ######### about swf anymore and we can be free to play against more balanced teams(not being sarcastic. I think it would be great)/

    If they are too many lobby dodges they will maybe realize it is an F'd mechanic.

    I probably wouldn't lobby dodge 2....But 3-4, with immersed characters and toolboxes/flashlights.....no thank you. 
  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    Attackfrog said:
    HellDescent said:

    They should just put an icon above person's head in the lobby if they are swf

    Yes! Such an easy fix! Us killers can't ######### about swf anymore and we can be free to play against more balanced teams(not being sarcastic. I think it would be great)/

    If they are too many lobby dodges they will maybe realize it is an F'd mechanic.

    I probably wouldn't lobby dodge 2....But 3-4, with immersed characters and toolboxes/flashlights.....no thank you. 
    That would be the end of SWF. The devs are not so stupid to introduce this.
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Tsulan said:
    powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:

    So... why nerf killers?

    I have so many equal opportunity responses that pop to mind here, all of them highly sarcastic.

    Freddy op, pls nerf?

    Well that was one of em but there was so many others to post but I'm trying to behave now so must resist urge to post super sarcastically.

  • sulaiman
    sulaiman Member Posts: 3,219

    well, i hate the swf-imbalance in the game. But the problem arises, if they remove it, it is the only workaround for survivors that disconnects and leave the game imbalanced (because its balanced around 4v1, not 3v1 or 2v1), or survivors that play just for themself, hookfarm and hatchcamp. Do you nerf killer so 3v1 would still be fair? Then the killer loses once noone disconnects.

    To avoid that, swf is needed in this game. I think it should be 2 different lobby systems, one casual without swf, and one competetive with swf. Both could then be tuned differently, like casual as it is now, just without swf, and the competetive crowed can be balanced by boosting the killer (more perks, slightliy increased movement speed, more bloodpoints, not loosing addons (unless at least 2 surivors escape) or nerfing the survivors (only 3 perks per survivor, or every perk is unique (means only one survivor can have any given perk).

    Just getting rid of swf doesn´t help the game because of the people who play it....

  • Oblitiry
    Oblitiry Member Posts: 487
    edited November 2018
    Yes kill the DBD player base. What a fantastic idea!

    Ya know what lets just make every killer as strong as the nurse. That would certainly be healthy for the game. Lets also remove the hatch, triple the time a generator takes to complete and only have 1 exit gate. 

    Oooo and remove pallettes. Survivors also shouldn't be allowed to have perks or items. Ya know what! They should just die in one hit.

    There I just made half the topics for the next week or so.
  • ConsoleNurse
    ConsoleNurse Member Posts: 170
    Are you guys not reading all.I said remove 4 swf and nerf killers.Not just only remove 4 swf
  • Malakir
    Malakir Member Posts: 799
    ConsoleNurse said:
    Are you guys not reading all.I said remove 4 swf and nerf killers.Not just only remove 4 swf
    Both won't happen. We are in 2018, now in a multiplayer game point me out at least 1 game of this generation you can't play with friends

    It was even intended before the lunch as the Devs said and was pretty obvious, so.. Yeah, sadly pointless thread
  • Mesme
    Mesme Member Posts: 177

    Guys, guys! Now bare with me but what if we remove all the perks in the game and only allow survivors to heal themselves?! Also this is something I thought of spur of the moment but what if a killer hit a gen 3 time it would just flat out break it? Like it can't be fixed anymore...?

  • Nick
    Nick Member Posts: 1,244

    So 4 man SWF equals 4 people with decisive and adrenaline? It's also possible for 4 randoms to use adrenaline and ds lol

  • Dwight_Fairfield
    Dwight_Fairfield Member Posts: 7,095

    They are never going to remove SWF. Never.

  • ConsoleNurse
    ConsoleNurse Member Posts: 170
    Okay just ignore 4 swf factor.How about nerfing killers?