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From the last 5 Leatherfaces I faced, 4 were face campers
How is the game even fun for these guys? Just standing there like idiots from hook one.
They don't even make good BPs, and finish the match with 1 or 2 hooks. What's the point?
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*Looks at the 300K BP I got from face camping today*
Ain't much, but it's honest work.
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"Well that's back now. I'm sorry everyone who hated that, especially Wade."-Garuku Bluemoon
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They have two options: chilling in basement face camping or chasing toxic survivors and getting 0k
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That camping potential is why I don’t enjoy facing Bubba too much. Which is a Bummer he’s fun to face in looping
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Most of them probably do it to ruin the camped survivor(s) game. They don't care about BP, pips, etc.
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Technically if they get 1 kill from camping they’ll have 3 hooks.
But if you’re looking for someone to blame them blame SBMM, even the none campers have been reduced to it now because tunnelling and camping 1 person and getting them out of the game as early as possible is the most efficient way to win, and sometimes necessary if you’re up against a good team with full meta builds
On the other hand some people just like to camp and annoy, same way some survivors like to bully the killer and tea bag and click flashlights at them. You can’t “fix” player mentality
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Or maybe there is one of the archive challenges that wants you to sacrifice x amount of Survivors, so they maybe just wanted to finish their challenge without much effort.
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Those only play to ruin other players fun. Nothing more.
But dont worry, some Killer Main will probably tell you some sob story why they facecamp during double BP-Events. Maybe some SWF stole their puppy or something like that. Because I learnt in this forum that only Survivors are terrible persons, Killers only do it because Survivors did something to them before.
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This happens almost every time I face LF. That's probably not the reason.
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Bubba facecamping is old and busted. Camping jigsaw boxes while using vhs tape+rule set number 2 as Pig is the new hip thing these days.
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Well, let's see here.
Bubba can:
A.) Get a hook and guard it and wait for the idiots to come to him and control the game his way.
OR
B.) Run around like an idiot, eat a dozen pallet stuns, lose ten chases due to perfect windows, and then get teabagged and clicked at the exit game.
HMMMMMMM!
Doin' a big think here!
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I could same the same as killer. From the last 5 SwF, 4 rushed gens and tbagged me at Gates :)
From the last 5 SwF, 4 were using DeadHard, Unbreakable, Decisive and Boon tótems
From the last 5 SwF, 4. Offered Haddonfield/Badham/Puzzle map.
Do you know what I mean?
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I do it because it's like fishing! :>
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I’ve never actually gotten a face camping bubba before.
Ive heard bad things.
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no clue. camping's boring.
it's different if leaving would be stupid (for example, if your entire team keeps rushing the hook and trying to unhook in front of the killer) , but the "I'm going to hit you on hook and have a staring contest" thing is annoying.
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You are one lucky survivor.
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Kids and teenagers. When are y’all going to get it? This is a video game and a lot of little kids and teens play this game. Immaturity leads to toxic behavior. Yes, adults do it too. Yes, there are skillful sportsmanlike adolescents- but a great deal of them are unsportsmanlike. To face camping, to ragequitting, to teabagging, to cheating, etc. etc you have children to thank.
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Have you ever tried Bubba without some tactical slugging?
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Bubba just wants company, if you guys weren't constantly bullying him by running away at the MERE SIGHT OF HIM maybe he wouldn't be so insecure and feel the need to hug you so much.
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This. I love this. Took the words right out of my mouth.
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No but I have faced other bubbas that don't camp or tunnel and they do just fine.
Face camping from hook 1 has no excuse for any killer
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Sigh.
Yes, Bubba can do 'fine' without camping, but his kit feels like it was essentially built around it.
'Tunneling' isn't a thing. Removing one survivor from the game as soon as possible is how killers are meant to play.
If you manage to get more than 1k when there are 4 survivors alive at 1-2 gens remaining without running NOED, either they made a huge mistake or you were badly matched.
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Its all just assumptions.
Not every player who brings a flashlight is trying to be an antagonistic clicker etc etc.
Players need to stop making this game some kind of personal attack at them just because they got camped. The only person who can ruin your fun is you.
Its only a game. If you get camped then just queue up again and move on. The number of people who send messages post game claiming I must be angry or upset because I chose to camp at some point is ridiculous.
Defending a hook can often be a good play moreso in the current boon age. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn't and its up to the player to decided when and how if they do.
Yeah sometimes I get a lil tired of the loopy chase mechanic and have a chill killer game where I sit on a hook. There is nothing wrong with that.
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what are you talking about, that's just slinger's lore, right? I thought he was John Wick.
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I hope its for nothing more than completing kill challenges, but we know that's not the case.
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Out of all killers that camped me yesterday, none of them was Bubba.
But I had one bubba camp game, he just couldnt catch me so camped teammate instead.
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Have you ever put butter on a Pop Tart? It's so friggin' good.
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Thanks.
Now that damn song will be in my head until 4am.
Bubba is a very annoying killer to play sometimes, especially on indoor maps or maps with a lot of vaults/powerful loops.
Personally, I don't camp - unless you BM me.
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Blame Devs.
Honestly I thought they would prevent that by adding laceration while charging chainsaw but still it is same as it was.
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I've only seen 1 and he 4k because I was bored and the squad was been dumb and trying to get the rescue so I decided to join in best part of the match honestly the other 3 minutes was doing gens
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Right? There was this huge hype with the Bubba rework that his face camping capability was being nerfed or removed. Surprise.. only difference is not holding M2 the whole time. The amount of revving needed to go into tantrum is a complete joke. Same amount of time to charge up as it is to cool down.
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This is true. I have no way to know what the killer is thinking, but I just find it very scummy to facecamp someone at the very beginning of the game. It's not a good feeling as survivor to load into a game, then be unable to play because of this. I really hope the devs come up with a good solution to fix the problem.
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Same could be said about certain map offerings. I dont want to load into Haddonfield or badhamen right away before I've loaded into the game its already going to be a rough game. Do I consider map offerings scummy no but to I think it suck yup. Or how about first chase equals 3 gens you think that's fun for the killer? Thats 60% of the survivor objective when the killer has only done about 8% of there's.
If there's only 2 gens left in the trial and 4 survivors someone is leaving the game if thats the first 2 minutes of the game thats on the survivors for setting the pace of the game and I now have to match that pace.
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Since I started playing in 2018 I've only come across maybe a dozen Bubbas that didn't facecamp. 😂
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Yea I leveled him up to try play him but I dont really like his playstyle tbh. Not my cup of coffee at all.
He is annoying to play against sometimes, especially if you play vs bubba several times in a row.
As far as facecamping goes, I dont really mind because I like people trying different playstyles than the normal one, however they could at least adjust BP gain for everyone involved in a 5gen facecamp game, no matter the outcome
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Killers, especially the ones who understand the current state of the game, see some of the nonsense in this forum and feel like Bubbas is a fantastic way to dispense justice.
I've made so many people DC, even when they bring blood party streamers, it's been -fantastic-.
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At least you get to play the game as killer. This isn't the case for the person that gets facecamped until they die.
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But the killer has to finish that match out when you can just q up for another game and probably be in a game before said killer finish there's
And if your going to tell me this happens every game then you need to work on your chase game because I'm so unlucky and always run into the killer first and almost never get face camped out.
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I'm not saying I get facecamped every game. I do see it a lot, though. Usually happens to my teammates. I'm ok at looping and hiding.
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Do gens get out he loses 10 mmr and you get 20 for escape you'll just keep making them drop while you go up. If the have noed and 2k they break even.
Its probably because these only 2 gens left at that point and the killer has to find a way to gain control and removing a player is the only way for that to happen.
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The other Bubba was letting the side down there.
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Players who play Bubba just to facecamp are doing it to ruin other players fun. Especially because there is always an increase of those players during Double BP-Events. Just imagine playing a game and just logging in, bringing up your free time only to piss others off.
And well, whenever someone says that Killers are toxic, some Killer Mains turn up saying that the Killer in question only did this because some Survivors must have done something to him before. Because Killer players cannot be bad people by default, nono.
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With Map Offerings, you at least get to play a game. It might not be the most enjoyable one, but you get to play it. And, even if I dont want to promote it here at all, you can still DC without a penalty if the Survivors bring a Map Offering. If you go against a facecamping Bubba the only thing you can do is to wait out 2 minutes to give your team time to do some Gens (at least this is the most optimal way to do it...).
When it comes to camping because the Killer needs a Survivor out of the game and/or the whole team is running around the Hook (aka not doing Gens, so the Killer is applying pressure to 4 Survivors at once), this something different from "Ok, I hook this guy and facecamp him right from the start".
When it comes to your Percentages, those are a little bit flawed. First of all, a nitpick - the Killer does not have to go for 12 Hooks, they have to get 4 Kills. You can also slug the whole team and onehook them. Not really fun, not really skillful, but go for it.
But, the bigger thing, not every Gen is really 20% of the effort. It is 20% of the Objective, but not of the effort the Survivors have to do. The first Gens are so easy to do, but it can also happen that 3 Gens done fast can result in the Survivors losing the game with the remaining 2 Gens to go, because each Gen gets harder to complete, because the Killer becomes stronger during the usual flow of a game.
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Basement Bubba supremacy
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Yeah I rather not play some of those level especially since the survivors are most likely running perk that are super strong on that level. Running around in a circle getting hit by pallets for 4 minutes is just as fun as been facecamped.
For the 12 hooks im assuming we are playing the game as intended and if you 4 man slug you get the same hate as facecamping.
9/10 if the survivors are in a 3 gen thats on them for just blowing through gens as fast as possible without considering where the other gens are. You can easily end up with 2 gens on one side and 2 on the other and you can't defend that outside a few killers.
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"The first Gens are so easy to do, but it can also happen that 3 Gens done fast can result in the Survivors losing the game with the remaining 2 Gens to go, because each Gen gets harder to complete, because the Killer becomes stronger during the usual flow of a game."
I am going to need you to explain this to me like I am four, because this makes zero sense to me. Gens do not get harder to complete. It is the same 80 seconds. I also don't see how the Killer gets stronger during the game. In general, I feel I get weaker as perks burn out and Hexes get busted. A Killer that runs Lethal, Corrupt, Ruin, and Undying can find themselves with zero perks after five minutes.
Survivor perks do not rot over time. Dead Hard is still the same load of garbage on the tenth chase as it is the first. Circle of Healing is the gift that keeps on giving.
The ONLY thing that seems to change is the total number of generators the Killer has to check on to patrol, and sometimes they can be five miles apart.
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I’m going to buy bubba to ruin survivor experience as much as they ruin mine with genrush and using toxic perks like CoH. I think it’s fair
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This is the basic understanding of Map Pressure. Obviously, if the Killer cannot apply any pressure and is not good enough to get Hooks or even remove the ressources of the Survivors (Pallets), they will not get stronger.
However, the longer the game lasts, the stronger gets the Killer. The first Gens are always the easiest, because Survivors are at their strongest. You have 4 Survivors who are not busy with anything except doing Gens and they have all the Pallets still up. When the Killer applies pressure, the Survivors lose some ressources, because Pallets are thrown and broken. And they are forced into altruistic actions (aka unhooking). So at some point you will not have 4 people doing Gens all the time, in a normal game, you should end up with at max 1 person on Gens, because one Survivor is hooked, one is going for the Unhook and one is being chased.
And if you reach the point to reduce the number of Survivors to 3 before a certain amount of Gens are done (I would say, if you do that before they bring the 4th Gen close to completion), you wont lose most of the time, unless the remaining 3 Survivors are not way better than the Killer.
And you cannot tell me that you never had games where you lose 1, 2 or even 3 Gens at the start which you still win.
(Personally, a build like you posted would be nothing for me. Because this would mean that the Killer plays with 0 Perks after a while. But I like to use Lethal Pursuer and Corrupt Intervention, especially on Killers who need the early game or can get into a chase fast. It does not matter if 2 of 4 Perks are gone after 2 minutes, if you set yourself up for the win by applying enough pressure)
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Don’t you get it that early strategy of wounding survivors to slow down gen rush doesn’t work because of CoH?
DS also makes it hard to chase unhooked person.
The best option - remove one as soon as possible.
And yes, sitting near hook reduces final reward, but it’s still better than seeing squatting 0k games
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If you're not going to chase/be chased, what's the point of playing this game?
Go play something else if you can't do the bare minimum.
The sad thing is I've seen good bubba players who don't face camp and they're scary good in chase. I'm sick of people defending face camping Bubba + NOED by saying "oh.. they can't deal with survivors, they just can't win any other way" like that's such bs and you know it.
I'm convinced that the people who employ this playstyle are just petty trolls and want to ruin the game for others. The sad thing is when it's done to survivors who aren't toxic, you're making them more likely to either quit playing this game or become a toxic player.
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