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How do you deal with toxicity amongst the players?
Hey guys, I'm a killer main and currently experiencing a pretty sad period as a killer in dbd.
It feels like most (or the loudest) of the survivors I've played against lost touch with reality. They complain about everything and anything in the endgame chat. Even if they bring a Haddonfield offering and 4 brand new parts they still have the audacity to complain (happened yesterday)
I'm looking for some general tips on how to deal with this. Mind you, I'm a pretty sensitive person in general. There are some lovely survivors, especially amongst the very experienced ones, who are always respectful, but many are just... terrible people... shouting out slurs with typos so that the filter doesn't catch it. It makes me incredibly sad that people are like that.
I also have ingame troubles... The occasional Tbagging and clicking is usually not that bad, BUT the flashlight macro clicker makes the game literally unplayable. and it doesn't matter if I'm the killer, or a survivor... it's incredibly annoying. I can't DC, cause I'll get a penatly. So do I just tunnel that person? Or better afk and watch a vid in the background until they escape?
I'm looking for any tricks you are using to deal with this. Thanks
Edit: 1 thing I started to do against super toxic players is I down 1 survivor and literally facecamp. They either crumble or do gens and the game ends faster.
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Whenever I get salty messages on PSN, I respond with "lmao". Don't know if that'd work on players who get salty in end game chat but it certainly shuts my players up
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A lot of the time I just shrug it off. I can understand sore losers.
It's the gloaters and the 'gg ez baby killer get cancer' types that get under my skin after a while.
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If they're a bully squad, macro clickers or they're just god loopers that eat and breathe DbD, I just go AFK and stare at the wall until they GTFO. You can try that
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I afk. Shut off people being able to directly message you in anyway as well.
The macro is a genuine issue and I wish it was easier to get people banned for it since it can actually hurt people.
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Then you get mass reported for non participation and risk a ban.
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I'm nice to them.
My goal when I play is to give everyone a good experience, sometimes even at the cost of my own. I like aiming for 12 hook games and tunneling/camping to secure kills is just boring.
So, if people are toxic to me, I may give back the usual passive aggressive sarcastic remarks I'm famous for on these forums, but I aim to just be more inquisitive than anything and overall just say "ggs" and move on.
Obviously if they're going all the way (ie. this one Felix calling my bf Nazi scum because he's German, or this Huntress who didn't like me and so screamed at the top of her lungs "SUICIDE NOW") then I'll give it back, but overall I just aim to be nice and move on.
If I cared about what everyone thought of me in this game, my mental health would be as bad as it was 3 years ago. I play this game to have fun, and being nice is my way to have fun. If anyone has a problem with how I play, they can ######### right off.
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Without video evidence and reports over a long period of time you won't be banned. Going AFK once in a while isn't bannable. It's only when it's severe and repeated a lot that it becomes an offence.
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I hope so.
I had a nasty TTV group about a month back that basically took the game hostage, and in postgame they informed me that their goal was to force killers to DC, or to AFK so they could report them.
I'd have to dig it up, but I remember a Reddit thread a good while back with a screencap of someone (a GM? A dev? I forget) responding to a user inquiry about survivors playing hide and seek not being against the rules, but AFKing these games out being bannable.
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Just report them. If it is nasty enough you can get them banned.
Edit: Also, report every message individually for extra effect lmao.
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Survivors refusing to do gens and only stealthing for a prolonged period of time is classed as a hostage situation, as confined by BHVR employees. Just an FYI on that situation.
Also, going AFK to a bannable level needs a lot of repeated reports within quick succession. If you go AFK because you need to take your cat out or collect a pizza it is in no way bannable.
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I laugh at it.
People getting angry enough at games to yell at me about it is absolutely hilarious.
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Holy crap! That sounds AWFUL! I hope these things are incredibly rare!
I also got some comments lately that I'm literally afraid to say to quote here. It's insane how malevolent people can get over a game.
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I'm too lazy tbh, I'd rather forget about it and continue playing, but I've also never gotten nasty stuff, just the usual "baby Killer"
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Honestly those were some of the tamer ones. Once I had someone go through my steam profile to my Twitch just to insult my looks (if I were to use his exact words I believe it was a "Fat stupid noncey cuntbag" so, lovely fella. Facecamped me on hook and then got really angry that my friend dared use BT).
It was really hurtful at the time, actually, but looking back at least I can laugh through it.
But yeah, if I held onto every grudge I'd ever had from this game I wouldn't be able to function. I'll be minorly peeved at a game for about 3 minutes and move on, it's just what's best for me (and something I've only been able to do recently).
Remember, when you're playing a video game, you are your own priority. No matter what happens, your own health is the most important at any given moment, mental or otherwise. And if you feel the need to shut off endgame chat, then absolutely feel free to do so, nobody can blame you.
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It is really easy. Just highlight the part of the message and press start. Then report.
That's it.
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It took me an embarrassingly long moment to realise you probably aren't on Steam 🧍
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Yeah. Console unfortunately lol.
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BHVR doesn't even ban people for hacking or being racist in endgame chat, AFKing every once in a while is not going to be punished lolol
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I tend to play pretty friendly - I often let people go, and when I do play to kill, I aim to 8-hook everyone before killing anyone, and I'll often spare players who I keep running into when there's someone else I haven't seen yet. So I don't get many sore loser messages. It still happens, nothing will prevent them entirely, but it's not constant enough to wear me down.
The sore winner messages just make me sad - or angry, if it was someone I spared and they treated me like crap anyway. People shitting on me in a game I got wrecked in feels even worse, because I don't have that... assured superiority, I guess. If I spare someone and they BM me in chat, I still know they only made it out on my whim; if somebody bullies me all game and then mocks me in chat, I certainly didn't prove them wrong. But they don't have a lot of sticking power. I get pissed in the moment, then move onto the next game for an emotional reset, and the whole incident becomes another page for the scrapbook of "remember that time I met some buttholes online?" I would very much like more moderation in this matter, because this community is on the nasty side, and there's way too many mean-spirited players around, but dealing with it... I don't have much issue keeping afloat? I would probably have much more trouble if I didn't play by the survivor rulebook, because when you don't, the abuse is constant.
Playing survivor, I've found, is fine - while douchey killers exist and I've met my fair share of them, it is way, way more common to encounter a nasty survivor in endgame chat than it is to encounter a nasty killer. I've had more teammates attack me than I've had gloating killers, and I can't even count how many times I tried to mediate when a teammate started bitching at the killer for something that struck me as perfectly reasonable.
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As killer: I remind the survivors I did not queue to be on their team, and I am not responsible for their reaction to how I play. I don't deviate much from those reminders, and just laugh it off. I even speak the same message when I'm the one getting rolled.
As a survivor: I ask the killer what was frustrating, and try to have a conversation about it.
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As I've stated, I haven't gotten the juicy, salty stuff, but will definitely report it if I get it
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I know it is scummy thing to do but if someone is being rude for no reason you can even report words like "kill" even if it is meant as something that happened in the game.
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That seems like overkill imo
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I defly get many more toxic survivors in the endgame chat than toxic killers, but I have to always remind myself, that in each game there are 4 times the survivors than killers. And i feel like the sore loosers/winners are many times the people to write in the endgame chat, so I'm not sure if this statistic is valid at all.
To be fair, I never blame killers for playing a certain way... Maybe it's just me playing a lot of killer and understanding why they do stuff they do... (Still very upsetting, when they say nasty things in the chat.). I think it's okay to play however you want, as long as you act like an adult in the endgame chat... and you don't use flashlight macros... ffs
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I think I can relate... I used to stream myself, and many times someone come into your chat, but instead of actually talking about the game, or discussing aspects of it, they come on to talk ######### or some nonsense. I remember someone coming into my chat saying something about "if you want to proxycamp, just play Nurse and stop proxycamping..." I didn't understand him well, I think their English was not that good. Like I'm forced to play Nurse if I want to win. People are sooo weird. and mean :(
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There is also a posibility that killer is alone in his role and going against 4 people in chat is probably not a good idea.
Although I definitely got some bad messages from killers from time to time on console.
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It's discouraging when it happens on a regular basis. Today, for example, is insane.. Map offerings every game and people cry 2/3rd of the time. Usually, it's the Fridays... I guess it's Dec30 and tomorrow people don't have work.
I once played nice, but then even when I did that many times survivors I let go wished me to get cancer and other lovely things... so slowly but surely I have decided to just do how I please. (Funnily it's usually still playing nice) But the filth just keeps coming.
Some people mentioned I can turn off endgame chat, is it in the settings? I couldn't find it...
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Body is 1 frick too short
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Let me actually be helpfull too
The end game chat remembers if you closed it so if you press this button it will stay closed for future matches untill you click it again
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OMG.. there are really bully and mocking squads? didn't know that.. That explains everything... I have made a post about mocking killers because i can't understand why they are doing this.
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Otz was actually talking about this yesterday.
Killers, in general, behave better than survivors - because they are alone and thus it feels like they have more accountability.
Survivors feel like they have strength in numbers, and so they are more likely to get reinforcement.
I doubt it'll do anything. The devs recently confirmed that anything short of actual death threats or strong slurs is not only acceptable, but they consider it an integral part of online gaming.
It's...an attitude that's probably going to bite them in the bum eventually.
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2 Sad things, but unfortunately I can probably agree with them! Thanks for your input :3
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I made my profile on psn private. If someone wants to send a salty message because they're upset how the match went or they just want to be a sore winner/loser they get to stew in their anger instead of taking it out on a stranger. Game is way more enjoyable without the peanut gallery sending messages.
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It does on ps because sony is very strict. I was not talking about in game reports.
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I am an Overwatch player. No offense intended, but you DBD cats don't ball hard at all. The toxicity is so mild relatively speaking. An attempt was made, I suppose.
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eh i wouldn't call making fun of someone who died of cancer before then dropping several slurs and finishing with the all-hole "######### stupid useless #########" particularly mild but sure
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I need healing!
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If you are on Console, I would advise you to make your profile private, so that only friends can see.
I've had some wonderful experiences and met wonderful people on DBD. Unfortunately, the bad far outweighs the good and you need to put your own mental well-being first.
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I am on PC. You can't leave comment on my profile, but some madmen literally leave comments on screenshots of mine... It's insane. It's also people bringing map offerings/keys (before the nerf). I swear when these things happen I slowly lose faith in humanity...
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Disable end game chat and never re-enable it is the best you can do. Toxicity isn't seen as all that negative a thing by the community.
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Yeah. I am a pretty sensitive person. So i guess completely disabling chat and returning to continuing my therapy is gonna be best :3
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Don't DC because of a clicker, camp or tunnel them. They want your attention, give it all to them until they die. More than half the time they'll DC or suicide on hook once they realize you're killing them, then you can go after the rest. Many DC when they're downed because they want to keep their flashlight. Respond like a killer, that's your job.
Also, there's no reason to read or reply to messages from survivor unless you like them and want to chat. Default should be you in another lobby while they rant at you. Why try to make friends with poor losers that act like children after losing a ten minute game? Friends like that don't reflect well on you as a person or a killer.
Not all survivors, some are really cool, but you're never going to stay a killer if you seek the approval of survivors. They don't want a challenge, they want you to hand them the game. Don't.
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LOL!
Oh wait, are you serious? Hackers don't even get banned from DBD.
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This is really well said! Thank you for your perception! I will save this somewhere and when I feel down, will read this out loud.
// One day will give this to my kids and grandkids... Actually, no... May the gods help them to stay away from DBD :D
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I've played Overwatch. DbD gets way nastier in it's own way.
The only communities I've run into that are this consistently nasty are the original DOTA map, CS:GO, UT2004 and pre-Tribunal LoL.
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The only way you'll ever actually be banned for "non-participation" is if you have provable and extensive history of straight up loading into matches and going afk immediately, as if you're afk-farming shards or something. And on top of that people need to actually bother to report you for it instead of just going to the next game.
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hide endgame chat, take a break if it really gets to you
it's also good to get in the habit of not arguing back with people, just say ggwp and move on, even if you think they played badly or if they're rude
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Not to be a jerk but if you have thin skin this is not the game for you. This game had one of the most toxic community's I've seen and everyone's solution is just ignore it it will go away.
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I try (emphasis on the word try) to ignore it when I can.
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Whenever I get salt on pc or psn I just respond with thank you, okay, ggs, or something else that's just so idc but I'll listen. People lose interest real fast after that.
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