Dwight cutting off his own nose to spite the Doc
Just finished a trial on Midwich as Doc, the survivors were good in chase, but that's one of the better maps for Doc and I'm a pretty good Doc. I got like 10 hooks.
The last one yells, I pass the hatch. The survivor is in the next room, he's giving up. It spawned just out of hearing distance of him.
I don't like it when people give up, but I understand that Doc can be oppressive. I down him and take him to hatch. We can hear it as soon as we leave the room. He disconnects before I can drop him.
He could have had the most points, but he chose zero because he felt that would take away my 4K. Karma for douchebags. Guess I have to keep all these bloodpoints.
What the hell's wrong with you people?
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People who DC right before they're about to die are ridiculous. What do you even accomplish? You give yourself a DC penalty and forfeit all of your bloodpoints for... what, the hope your opponent was going for a challenge or achievement that required 4 kills?
Losing out on hatch just makes it funnier, in a misanthropic kind of way. Could have had an escape if they didn't assume the killer was as mean and awful as they did.
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As someone who has d/c'd right before being thrown on death hook, perhaps I can pull back the curtain just little bit and offer some insight into what might be going on behind the scenes.
First and foremost,
People who disconnect do not care about (or are not motivated to play because of) bloodpoints.
That may seem like a no-brainer, but the most common question I see in response to this is always "why did you throw away your bloodpoints?"
Second,
The player is looking for a reason to stop playing. Someone who disconnects right as they are about to be out of the match is probably tilted. They are fed up with the game, and are looking for an excuse to go do something else.
The matchmaking lock is a great opportunity for someone who is tilted to gather their emotions and refocus, or decide its time to move onto something more enjoyable.
In either case, they welcome the matchmaking penalty with open arms because its a respite from whatever rage-enducing scenario(s) led them to that moment.
Sometimes, it may also just be this person's last game of the day, and the disconnect penalty will not effect them in any way.
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Pride. Some people just don't want your pitty. They want to take defeat on the chin and will voluntarily create a lose condition if you're trying to display any form of empathy.
Finally,
In the case of death hook specifically, a survivor may disconnect as a last form of vengeance to prevent the killer from activating BBQ, Pop, or Pain Resonance.
TL;DR unless the disconnect has inconvenienced you in any way, a survivor is probably not disconnecting to spite you.
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Sure, but all those reasons are childish. I get the not wanting pity part, but that's still not a reason to be spiteful. If he didn't want pity, he shouldn't have given up. I pity people who are so emotionally weak they can't play five more seconds. Maybe they shouldn't play at all. I feel like acting like a baby is more pitiful than taking a hatch.
When I started playing I assumed survivors would be tough as nails, the type of people that VOLUNTEER to be chased by killers would be the types to accept any challenge, fight to the death, eager for a chance to outplay me or outsmart me. This didn't turn out to be accurate.
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I mean have you seen docs nose? It looks like the back of a flatbed truck lmao
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In the least aggressive way possible, I want you to know that their behavior is less childish than you calling them babies for handling emotions in a way in which you are unfamiliar or distant to.
You're chosing to be short-sighted and accept the reality of "they're childish," instead of acknowledging that there is a complex process of thoughts & emotions happening on the other side of your monitor.
No one is beholden to you or the game they are playing. We all volunteer our own time to play DBD, and a person can decide at any moment that it is not worth their time to keep playing.
You're on the forums mocking strangers for deciding they have better things to do with their time.
I don't know mate, maybe you should take a page out of their book.
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"I have better things to do with my time" doesn't apply when your game would be over in ten seconds max.
Similarly, if you're going to stop playing the game because you've had too much DBD or your last few matches have been frustrating as hell, you don't need a DC penalty to lock you out - you can just get off the game.
The only valid reason you listed was not wanting pity a hatch, which, fair, and that's your prerogative. I can understand that and it's not a childish mindset. But a lot of the rest of this... either speaks to a lack of emotional control that the person should make an attempt to correct instead of constantly indulging, or doesn't really feel accurate to the situations in which I see DCs and I'm going to have to press X to doubt on it not usually being an act of spite to the killer and a response to the way they played the game (or the way they were perceived.) Denying a hook-based perk - sure, if you consider abusing an unintentional mechanic to weaken the killer's game fair play, then I can't stop you. But that's not as far as it goes. I've played in-stream games with people who would deliberately ragequit if they thought the killer was going after a certain achievement, specifically tombstone Myers or all four killed in the basement. I've also spoken with players on the forums who expressed the same opinion, saying that killers didn't deserve to get their achievements if the game wasn't fun and that they would DC to make things harder for them. I find it hard to believe that none of the randoms who have DCed on death hook for me weren't trying to do the same thing, whether they succeeded or not.
I judge here because there's an important distinction to be made. You generally can't stop yourself from getting upset about something that bothers you, regardless of what people on the internet like to say about toughening up. But you can stop yourself from overreacting to the things that make you upset - getting into a fight, disconnecting, harassing someone on their profile, etc. Impulse control is something that people are expected to learn and practice as social animals and I don't have that much sympathy for those who don't think they have to.
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Yeah, no. That's not how "childishness" works: throwing a tantrum is intrinsically more childish than acknowledging the silly and immature way certain people react to stress under certain circumstances. However, there's no real need for either to be "more" of anything - each reason you gave is inherently and individually childish, including the pity hatch one, regardless of how others treat them.
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No one needs to give you a valid reason for walking away from a situation they don't want to partake.
It is sad that you're passing judgement on the emotional and/or intellectual maturity of strangers in a video game.
How often do you encounter this? Less than 1% of your games, I'd imagine. I sure never see it.
Lets do a quick google search...
Oh look, a news release from the U.S. Department of Health & Human services reports that Intermitten Explosive Disorder (IED) affects as many as 7.3% of adults.
wow.
So statistically speaking, it's possible that all these "childish" people you're mocking are dealing with a disorder.
Real mature, guys.
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Are you a member of the Fantastic Four? With the ability to reach like that, you'd put Mr. Fantastic out of a job.
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Literally had 2 DC cause I played pinhead. They even use the rpd map offering too on me.
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Hardly a reach.
That was 30 seconds of googling.
I mentioned one mental disorder. There are more than 200 classified mental illnesses, and a handful of other reasons why someone might be "acting childish," not least of which are people who play video games under the influence of drugs and alcohol.
If people stopped dehumanizing the players they come across in video games, we might all be a little more understanding of why certain behaviors are so prevalent.
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Mental health issues aren't a free pass to behave however you like.
A disproportionate number of the people you'll encounter online are ND. I'm one of them. That doesn't suddenly make whatever I do untouchable because oh no you're attacking an autistic person, and by the way, you can't argue with me because I have anxiety and denigrating my motives like this could be damaging to my health. You should have thought of every possible reason the person behind the screen may be doing what they're doing before saying anything to me, much less judging me like this.
...Or maybe that's a really unfair take? Maybe it's better to judge me for the actions and opinions I present without having to consider every indecipherable thing that goes on in my head? Maybe labels shouldn't be a shield to act with impunity when I'm the one choosing to engage in group activities on the same footing as everyone else?
There are rules. I expect people to play by them and not screw over the people around them, and people who have trouble doing that should work on moderation in whatever ways they can (whether that's practice, treatment, or removing themselves from scenarios that tend to cause flare-ups), or not be surprised when they get ostracized for antisocial behavior or even kicked out for failing to comply with said rules. They should not get a free pass to do things that are not allowed and unpleasant for the people around them because it's something they struggle with.
This concept is basically universal in society. "I have a disorder" can be an explanation, but it's not an excuse if someone intends to continue their misbehavior or doesn't see it as misbehavior at all.
Like, I recognize we're talking about disconnecting when the game's over. And realistically, when somebody's pulling the plug for the sake of removing themselves from a situation they're not dealing with, right before the game is over - if I don't have an achievement on the line, I genuinely do not care. However, I have encountered way too many people who do it with deliberate malice to assume better motives or self-care when I encounter it - especially not when I've had people hang around to abuse me in endgame chat. It's also been a recurring problem when I went for adept killer achievements, and something that robbed me several times in games I otherwise would have pulled it off. Additionally... there's a really thin line between DCing right before death and DCing whenever anything happens that you don't like, and I find that most people who do one tend to do the other - the latter of which very definitively ruins the game for other people and I refuse to take excuses short of 'a real life situation came up' or 'the other players were griefing/cheating/sandbagging' for.
And yeah, you actually do need to have a valid reason from walking away from a situation you don't want to partake in when walking away from that situation is against the rules of the game and potentially screws over other players. If ordinary gameplay is commonly unendurable to you, you shouldn't be partaking in the first place. That in and of itself is the proper thing to do for the sake of caring for your mental health.
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There's nothing I can add to this, ND fist bump.
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#########. What a bunch of excuses.
"unless the disconnect has inconvenienced you in any way, a survivor is probably not disconnecting to spite you."
Ok, so, even a DC just before the last hook is inconvent for me, because you remove the satisfaction of my well achieved kill in a last hook. If you are that butthurt just stop playing the game, no excuses.
I've been tilted sometimes and DCd (specially when I had less than 200 hours), but I never did just before the last hook and never tried to justify such things, omg.
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Some people just have butter fingers and can't hold that L.
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Let them DC. Free bloodpoints. Unless they cuck you out of BBQ. But really, their wittle time out is actually a decent enough consolation prize. If only they went into their next game with a dunce cap, all would be right.
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Okay, lets rewind for just a second...
- OP recounts an (negative?) experience they had in game
- OP poses the question "what the hell's wrong with you people?"
- @Laluzi poses further questions, such as "what do you even accomplish?" and "[you] forfeit all of your bloodpoints for [...] the hope your opponent was going for a challenge...?"
- I, as someone who has personal experience on the matter, and have played along-side players to which you all pose the question, provide a response in the form of 3 reasons (4 should you assume apathy & indignance as part of my first point). May I add, that I did preface the response with "...what might be going on..."; an indication that I did not attempting to speak from a place of omniscience.
- OP mocks my reasons, to which I reply quite snappy that OP is being rather close-minded.
- Laluzi re-enters the conversation, unsatisfied with my response, and SUDDENLY a master on the topic at hand. How is it that a moment ago they were as baffled as the OP, and now know better than someone speaking from experience? How are they suddenly the arbiter of "valid responses" and a mind-reader of those who have "spited" them in the past?
- Elusive enters the narrative, apparently omniscient to the fact that ALL survivors who d/c are having a tantrum. They then double down on the notion that this is all "childish behavior."
- I reply, reminding all that no one owes you anything, and that there may be EVEN MORE going on behind the scenes than I had to share from first-hand knowledge. And hey, maybe we should acknowledge that some people struggle with certain behaviors more than others.
- Laluzi goes off on a tirade, apparently still a know-it all regarding the topic that had them scratching their head about 5 minutes prior. During said rant, you (@IamFran) come at me for "making excuses," when I wasn't making excuses at all--I was answering OP's question, unlike everyone else in this thread. Not before which, @Laluzi assumed my ethical ideologies and decided to use those false assumptions to launch an entire rant that is talking at me, and not to me.
I hope that rant was a weight off all your shoulders, because these clearly aren't responses meant for me.
You know... it's kind of ironic. Here I am proclaiming that we should be more thoughtful about the fact that there are real people playing with & against us, and consider that they may be dealing with some real baggage. Does it suck when they off-load that baggage onto us, by disconnecting from a trial? Absolutely. But they are human, and we should recognize that.
Meanwhile, you're all throwing me in a little box alongside whatever other socio-political agendas you disagree with and you decide its a good idea to start teaching me a lesson about literally anything but the point I was making.
Edit: Edited to clarify my response
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