What am I supposed to do ?
Against hold w meta perks pre drop pallet swf genrushing BNP ?
Even camping isnt enough. I tried everything. Against this kind of teams I can get 1K and thats it.
SBMM is not fun.
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Nurse.
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Just pressure gens lmao, in all seriousness though, the amount of people complaining about MMR is actually impressive, on the one hand I respect Behavior for being so good at pushing everyone's buttons, but on the other hand it's disturbing how upset people get over it.
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Play something else.
Seriously. I've had the game for almost 5 years and BHVR clearly cares about certain customers more than the other. They won't balance anything unless the survivors can't find a match.
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I don't see any BNP or toolboxes in general when I play killer or survivor.
Survivors bringing toolboxes without BNP just for sabo challenges or whatever.
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Maybe you are not as good as you think you are?
I mean, you pulled every strawman in your post. Predropping, holding W, SWF, BNP, "Genrush"...
Do you have a video of your gameplay? Hard to give actual advice (if you even seek any and it is not only a rant) without anything to look at.
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Do like me and switch to solo survivor with a rare sprinkling of killer. It’s not worth maining killer unless you’re really really good.
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Insidious Nurse on the exit gates.
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With NOED and Blood Warden.
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Couldn't agree more, I'd much rather deal with brainlet teammates than dangerously high stress induced blood pressure.
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Insidious,bloodwarden,NOED, bbq ( for the 25% points boost) camper tunneler nurse.
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Artist and get good at long distance crow shots?
Or Blight.
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Play better. If you got one kill then I'm sure there were more plays to be made to get a 2nd kill. Toolboxes with BnP is overrated. They barely do half a gen and that IF they hit both skill checks. There will always be games where no matter what you do you can't 4k....but you are not supposed to. The majority of matches are fine but if you find yourself losing (1k or less) most of your games.. Well first off you need to get better with whatever killer you are using, 2nd perhaps pick a killer who counters Hold W/pre drop (Nurse, Blight, Spirit, Billy, Artist, Huntress, Slinger, Clown, etc).
I personally enjoy killers who can stop them getting to pallets or destroy pallets with their power (Nemesis, Clown, Doc, Demo, etc). I still do very well (4k most games) using the entire roster. If I can still get great results with Pig, Clown, Ghostface, Mike, and Trapper everyone can. I suck with Billy and still have no complaints and as for Legion they can ######### off. Try just to pick a killer and play 3 straight games with that killer....bet at least 2 of those games are a 2k or better.
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Predropping pallets = all the pallets are gone in a minute = the map is a dead zone for the rest of the game = gg ez 4k
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Improve. Killer is literally the easiest it has ever been, way too easy actually. Almost every mechanic and everything is now killer sided.
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Nope. Only at low MMR.
If you face better survs you are screwed as (average) killer.
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You can't win every match. When you win, the MMR is obviously giving you better survs the next time.
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It should be like that, yes. I loose often but i am ok with that.
As you read around the main problem seems to be the system is not working or is working but has a dodged lobby or not enough players or whatever.
Maybe that is a thing they can´t fix ever.
But a new killer player should never get a SWF as well as a new player should not get a profi killer. What is the point of a system if it does not prevent these situations.
And everybody who has ever faced a vastly superior enemy knows how bad this feels.
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There we go sluzzy! You just gave (yourself) an answer!
See, no need to nerf blight tinkerer ruin etc
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at least you can get 1k. Against good nurses we only can have 0 escapes
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Whenever I face matchups like this, I just walk around the map and avoid any interaction with the survivors. Open the gate once last gens is done. Going AFK is against the rules, but there’s no rule that says you have to try hard. I’m not interested in being humiliated for the entertainment of pro players who play the game 12 hours a day
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There's nothing you can do, 3 gens will pop in the first chase with fresh tiles everywhere. Your only hope is Nurse/Blight, due to the speed they can get downs. If you aren't using them just camp and tunnel, enjoy the 1k, maybe the survivors are bad enough to turn it into a 4k.
It's not SBMM's fault, the game is poorly balanced.
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Unfortunately, the really good SWF sits too long in a lobby so the system is apparently giving them the next available killer. I agree MMR shouldn't exist in an asymmetrical game. It needs to be balanced for average matches.
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As solo, I don't remember the last time ever winning against that kind of Blight but I still see him. The team is always decimated. MMR doesn't work!!! It goes both ways here.
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Interesting. Just had 3E against typical blight. Pitty I did not mmake print screen
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I'd advise just quitting until you see changes that interest you.
That's what I'm doing, mostly.
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Like in real life one must adapt or die id suggest you play survivor to pick up on a few killers strategies that worked really well against your team. Then dont copy it but adapt it for yourself and see if you can mimic the style too.
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I ... agree with you? 😉
There's definitely an imbalance in the number of people playing killer vs. those playing survivor at peak times of the day (early evening up through the early morning in my area). When I play survivor, it's standard to have lengthier waiting times at survivor (anywhere from 3 minutes some nights to 5-6 minutes on others) and pretty much instantaneous matches as killer (that's pretty much my experience constantly).
It's not just the "good" SWF that's sitting around waiting most evenings -- it's ALL survivors (again, in my area and my experience). And it's clear to people paying attention (like you must notice) that matches are being thrown together with MMR being completely thrown out the window all across the board during those peak periods -- queue time absolutely is taking precedence over any SBMM numbers.
I'm a fairly decent survivor, and a slightly better than that killer. What my MMR is -- only BHVR knows, and they're not saying, lol. What I do know is that, in any given night of playing both killer and survivor for 5-6 hours during those peak times, the lobbies I get as killer can range from super-efficient SWF squads to absolute novices at the game (the latter determined usually by grade, perks and their tiers being run, and their general play against me) -- even when I'm literally playing the same killer back-to-back. As survivor, I'm usually playing as part of a duo, and on any given night, we're going up against top-level Nurses or Huntresses ... or it's a Myers with two Tier 1 Shape perks equipped who gets gen-rushed out of the game. And the quality of our teammates go from Ayrun-like skills to people who couldn't spell Ayrun if you spotted them the first 4 letters of their name.
I had hopes for SBMM/MMR, but like so many others, I'm disappointed with the implementation of it and its results. There needs to be tweaks. I'd rather wait longer for a more evenly-balanced match if I have to.
** To the OP and their question what to do? Without seeing you play, it's hard to answer. When I'm playing killer, I'm either running the new Pain: Resonance perk or, in a few select cases, I'm masochistically running Ruin still. BNP's don't matter if you can get someone off of the gen they're working on. I played the recently-gutted Deathslinger last night against a 3-person SWF and a solo -- two of the SWF had Commodius/BNP toolboxes. I ran Ruin, pushed one survivor off a gen, broke chase when they went to a tile I had no business wasting time with them at, then pushed the other toolbox off of a different gen -- after downing them and slapping them on a PR hook, that was likely two BNP's that went completely for naught. Kept pressuring survivors with constant downs/hooks on PR hooks, Ruin did its work until they broke it, but eventually I ended up with a 4K -- and I definitely am NOT a world-class Deathslinger, lol.
A lot of people who play killer will say that a huge component of being successful is knowing when to commit to someone, and when to drop chase and look for someone more vulnerable. I still don't always do that -- and I can usually point to a moment that might lose me a match when that happens -- but improving one's game sense is so important. On my end, I get the occasional game that feels basically "unwinnable" do to map RNG or other factors, but that's rare. If every game is feeling that way to you, then either you're incredibly unlucky with your matchmaking (see the SBMM take above) -- or there's aspects of your rounds that you're going to need to look at to see where improvement opportunities lie.
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Its simple for the hold w just learn nurse or blight its suck that you cant play the other killer you like but the game promote this.
You cant defend gen so its better if you rely on perk like corrupt and deadlock for slowing down the game and noed with bloodwarden or no way out do some miracle in the end game.
Another thing you may not be that high in the mmr but because survivor queue are so long you get put against player better then you.
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Play Nurse or Blight. Jump ship and play survivor or another game like a lot of killers have.
That's all you can realistically do.
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Maybe ask some tips from @ASurvkillivorer...
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Sluzzy, please, you're scaring me--you aren't supposed to be the voice of reason
Oh! Thank Her Tyranny, Lady Spiderlegs. All is well again.
But actually, thank you. You're a blessing, even if you're a gremlin.
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Thank you for all your responses.
Im a main survivor, Im enjoying killer more and more.
I dont play S tier killers, I like playing killers that I like for personal reasons.
I like running half meta build half fun build, something unique for each killers. I dont like running same perks on all my killers.
Sometime its really frustrating. I play survivor more but I want to enjoy killer sometimes its really fun.
I blame MMR because its not working at all. On my main (Clown) I always get baby survivors, I 4K almost every game and my MMR doesnt seem to get higher.
However with one of my most recent killer (Nemesis) Im still learning things with him. I get super good survivors and I lost almost every game but my MMR seems to get higher, its absurd.
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Thats not true. Even losing with style can be fun if you go in trying builds and certain playstyles.
Meme. It's supposed to be fun, and alot of times survivors make dumb mistakes when your not even trying to play seriously.
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