What do you guys think about the three gen situation
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You can't stand at gens indefinitely though, there is three of them.
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You kinda can if the 3-gen is right. That's why 3-gens can be backbreaking for Survivors.
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If it's actually an "impossible" situation, problem is in generator spawn and maps.
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You're not wrong per se, but that doesn't excuse hostage holding. It'd be like saying that it's okay to allow hostage holding if you are abusing an infinite (a REAL infinte) endlessly to evade the Killer while intentionally never doing gens.
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I think It took like 30 minutes or even an hour to be considered a hostage anyway, at that point it's clear they are doing that with intention of griefing.
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Well, yeah. That much is definitely true. If this situation only lasts for two-three minutes, you don't really have much to go on. The game has to be stagnan for a VERY long time for it to be hostage holding.
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There's something almost creepy about how people have been trying to weaponize the devs by calling things they don't like "against the rules" or "exploiting." or "hostage holding" I've been noticing it a lot the past month. I don't think mass banning customers is ever a good idea for anything besides hacking or massive harassment campaigns.
As for the topic of someone actually getting banned for 3 genning. I think it's probably possible it COULD happen, but I'd think it's unlikely. I personally don't feel the devs and support team are often on the same page and that probably needs to be fixed. The support team has contradicted the devs numerous times recently. Most notably was with the Bubba shards issue that is still on going. So it seems like the devs can say one thing but no one bothers to give the support staff a memo.
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It's so easy to counter a 3 gen nowadays that killers shouldn't even bother with the strategy. split up on gen, put CoH far but not too far, get hit and heal, then go back, rinse and repeat. it's a war of attrition at this point, and it favors the survivors more. without CoH yeah, it'd be a viable strategy, but i'm glad it's here because it's by far as boring as getting camped 😂
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You are so right three gens are BS I wish bhvr would add an 8th gen to the game. Then maybe it would incentivize killers to get some skill and stop playing on ez mode
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It’s not hostage holding. You keep calling defending gens hostage holding but it’s not. The survivors can try and do the gens. They might not succeed and they might get killed but they can try.
Hostage holding is doing something where the survivors literally can’t progress the game, even if they try something risky. Not only can’t they do the gens but they can’t even die trying to do the gens. Bodyblocking the last survivor in a corner is hostage holding, they can’t even die trying to do the gens. Doctor intentionally infinitely shocking people off gens but never damaging them is hostage holding, that’s the example Peanits was talking about. A killer just guarding the gens and downing survivors who come too close is NOT hostage holding, the survivors have the ability to try and do the gens even though it’s risky.
But I’ll let everybody else who’s telling you you’re wrong at this point take over.
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as i already said, experience has shown me the oposite, 4k hours in this game, High mmr against nurses and Boringhts (blights) consistently, experience has shown me opposite.
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I already have a BHVR quote saying I'm right, so it doesn't matter how many people say otherwise. :P Peanits specifically mentioned that it's holding hostage even if the Doctor downs them for standing still.
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You've already had multiple people tell you how you're taking that post about a specific situation out of context entirely.
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Sure, but none of those people are correct. :P
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"Killers shouldn't be allowed to play at all, it's boring!" - survivors
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Maybe after a certain amount of time an alternative mode could generate, like a wire leading to the gates needs repair, only survivors can see its location. The killer would have to look around more, not just gens. The survivors could then work on the 4th gen or the wire repair. The killer would know the wire option has activated and would be forced to look around more. Im sure plenty of my fellow killers will say no to this with great anger 🤷♂️, but i reckon it would be interesting for a change.
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''Three Gen Situation'' should be nerfed because solo survivors can three gen themselves without even realizing it. And there is nothing you can do about it because you cant control their actions. They should increase the distance betweeen gens.
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Most of my 3 gen are not intentional except when playing Trapper or Hag or playing in Azarov's resting place/Suffocation Pit.
Anyway the survivors a lot of time 3 gen themselves by doing the gens in only one side of the map, funny enought it usually happen when playing against the most genrusher ones so it's like poetic justice.
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You can in most situations.
Just go to the other side of the map when you finish a gen instead of going to the nearest one like a lot of survivors tend to do or go to the other side of the map if you see two survivors doing gens in one side of the map. You can do this playing solo.
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I feel like 3 gen situations are more the survivors fault. It's there job to do gens, so it's also their job to make sure they do gens in a way that the last few a separate enough so the Killer can't easily apply pressure on all of them. As Killer I notice survivors who will rush gens by sticking in groups of 3 or 4 just to do gens as quickly as possible instead of splitting up and doing gens all across the map. So you can't blame me for taking advantage of a situation they put themselves in.
I play SWF on occasion, my friends aren't terrible, but they're not the best. They'll come and work on a gen I'm working on, I'll leave that gen to them and tell them not to do all of the gens on one side because it'll screw us over. Sometimes they listen, sometimes they don't. So if we 3 gen ourselves, we can't get mad that the Killer taking advantage of since we put ourselves in that situation.
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But what if they finish the wrong gens and three gen themselves before i can prevent it?
In this type of situations, only one smart surv isnt enough. Other survs have to be smart as well
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Then they are in the situation that they have created for themselves. If you don't like your chances of winning being tied to the performance and intelligence of your team, maybe team based multiplayer games aren't for you.
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I dont think its fair that I get punished for THEIR mistakes. Devs could make a system that rewards good survivors.. but for some reason, they dont.
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It's kinda like sandbagging, it's clearly their fault but it doesn't justify behavior.
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That's literally what being part of a team is. Maybe survivor isn't for you.
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Yeah maybe i should switch to the killer role that takes zero skill to play.
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Sure. Go play killer. Honestly I don't understand why you'd buy this game and only play half of it. It's not like bhvr will give you a refund for half your purchase if you only play killer or survivor. If you think it takes 0 skill, then you should be all set.
Or just learn what team spirit and teamwork are, but then, if you didn't pick up those lessons in school you may never learn.
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Is this another sluzzy alt?
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3 gen situations are IMO the survivor's fault because of lack of coordination. The only thing I dislike is RNG on certain maps e.g. 5 gens on one side on Azarov's Resting Place. If a Bubba decides to literally just defend those gens and doesn't even care to switch the map side, the game gets very stale without survivors even having the chance to prevent a situation like that. Even worse when 3 of those 5 gens are especially close to each other.
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@fulltonon said:
Is this another sluzzy alt?After seeing the post where they legit claimed only 3 killers are not overpowered, I'm thinking even Sluzzy's got limits.
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There's no behavior that needs to be justified though. The Killer's job is to prevent the survivors from doing gens. and if there are only 3 gens that the survivors caused to be close together, you can't expect the Killer not to do their job.
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