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How common do you think slight killer hacking is?
I swear in a decent amount of my games a lot of these PC killers use slight speed hacks. Either it's that or for whatever reason the speeds of killers just seem extremely inconsistent. One game I can run an Oni on a loop easily and then the next game on the same loop a Myers just seems to speed around it like crazy. Does anyone else have this problem of killers not having consistent speeds or are there just a decent amount of actual hackers that give themself like 5% extra speed?
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Are you sure it is not just the animation? Some Killers look pretty fast, despite them being at the same Speed like others.
E.g. I always feel that Clown walks faster than other Killers, just because of his animations.
I rarely encounter Hackers, the last time I encountered a Hacker is already a few months ago. But most of the time it was quite obvious that they were hacking, even when it was subtle (e.g. walking fast to the Hook like they had Agitation, but not having it in the Postgame-Screen).
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Mikey just feels faster because he has low/no terror radius, certain addons let him see through walls (and thus know which direction you're going in a loop), and one of his perks can give up to a 15% speed boost on top of the 15% bloodlust. I've seen plenty of people on the forums here say, "I can never seem to outrun Myers".
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Just as much as stretched res users, aka 99% of them.
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I find that survivors are much more likely to use subtle speed hacks while killers use esp hacks so they know where everyone is 100% of the time. If you have to cheat to win that is just pathetic and you'll never be able to justify it to me.
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I encounter very obvious hackers somewhat rarely but honestly how could you decisively tell that a killer was hacking if they only went a couple percent faster? It's somewhat obvious with survivors because it's easy to tell when you should or shouldn't be catching up but if all of these killers have "different animations" you could easily just move a little bit faster and use that as the excuse.
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"E.g. I always feel that Clown walks faster than other Killers, just because of his animations."
I thought I was the only one...
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I caught a brand new hacker who was just adjusting his cheats for the first time, He has Wallhacks and aim lock as huntres, he was playing good at first but suddenly he just throwed an axe through a wall where my teammate was healing close at, it was very precise and he did it twice, it was funny cause i was downed back then and i saw it happening right there, and later after the match i checked his perks and there was no nurse calling. he was kind to my team mate for the whole game after that, but i still reported him.
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My rule of thumb is 10% of people are asshats in general, so I wouldn’t be surprised if 10% of DbD players cheat. But who knows really? 🤷♂️
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According to tried and trusted sources, 10% of the playerbase use cheating software in one form or another. On EU servers, you can quite often meet killers who walk extra 2-5% faster or who somehow always know exactly where you are without any aura-reading perk/addon/ability. You can't even report those, because even if you record the game - it's impossible to prove the killer had wallhack and not just "made several lucky guesses with his intuition".
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Considering it was a Myers, are you sure he didn't just have Play With Your Food?
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Significantly less often than survivor hacking. By significantly I mean by its TRUE definition, not like 5-10% like the devs think lol.
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Depends on the killer. It's more likely to happen on Spirit or Nurse because it's tougher to prove. Spirit is notorious for attracting hackers because it's almost impossible to prove someone didn't "hear" something. It's a bit easier to tell on Nurse because they'll typically remove in-game textures to give themselves wall hacks, but their blink mechanics will still be dog water. So I just assume the Nurse is hacking if they can snipe me through a wall but can't hit me to save their life out in the open.
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I imagine it's just as often as survivor hacking but unless they screw up, you have no way to actually know, which is kind of the point...
and since BHVR has no system in place whatsoever to stop it, we'll probably never know shrugs
Like I finally caught on to what I believe was a subtle hacker in one of my threads
I am still 99% confident that the survivor was cheating and doing a subtle hack but still, I can't say FOR 100% CERTAIN that they were. Maybe they were just really really really really really really good at mindgaming me at the Double L loops. I am as confident as I can be that they were a subtle hacker and I still don't know for a fact that they were.
Hell, the famous BHVR Spaghetti Code and Lag could be what makes you think that your opponent is subtle hacking when in reality it's just the game is a broken mess being held together by duct tape and the hopes and dreams of the shareholders trying to squeeze out as much money as they can before it all comes crashing down.
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I gotta say, a false hackusation is probably the biggest compliment you can give.
And you got the TTV goons who will cry streamsniper if you stomp on them so they have an excuse for losing. So I think people are pretty predisposed to justifying why they lost in a video game.
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As common as survivors who only slightly hack.
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You gotta realize that discussions like these only intrigue people who were on the fence about hacks into actually trying it. Bloodlust does exist tho so it couldve been that too.
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For me I find it low since I've played with hackers and both were survivors and all did the same thing quick healing so I find survivors even have more of a chance hacking then killers do.
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If a killer gets faster at a double L wall that's why
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Yeah I hate how you can never 100% know and therefore have to give everybody the benefit of the doubt.
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What are these sources?
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Honestly, if someone is doing something subtle, then even if you have a ton of hours in the game and the experience to know when something seems "off", there's just no way to tell.
I've gone against killers who have magically found me in a place they had no business looking (no cues to bring them where I was). In those instances, I've assumed a perk (like Whispers) or an add-on (like a Wraith with All-Seeing equipped) and been utterly shocked when in the end game screen, nothing they were running would have led them to me. Was it a wall-hack, or was it simply game sense and a combination of a really good player with a lot of experience that was the reason? There's no way to tell, unfortunately. Heck, I played a Huntress round yesterday and yanked a Dwight out of a random locker when I went to reload -- I didn't have a clue he was hiding there, and what was incredibly good luck for me (and bad for him) easily could have looked like I was hacking somehow.
It's the same playing killer. I've gone against the obvious hackers already, but I've also faced survivors who seemed just a LITTLE bit too fast in chase (almost as if they had a permanent Hope equipped), or heals that go ridiculously fast without the aid of a Boon or Med-Kit or perk, or someone who's playing like they have vault build on but doesn't, or exit gates that seem to be opened far too quickly for someone not running a perk to help with it. Again, all subtle things that breed suspicion, but there's no way for me to be able to be certain.
In any case, it's the subtle cheating that worries me more than the obvious hackers.
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In the end you will never know but I would NEVER go that far to accuse someone of cheating if you have no 100% proof, its also just pretty cringe if you are in the end wrong and you make a idiot out of yourself.
Here some context.
I play every 1-3 days around 20 games on average, I get on every 3-4th game 1 person atleast accusing me of any kind of cheat.
Suprisingly the majority is on Artist atm for "wallhacking"..
Again not saying subtle cheating doesnt exist but there is also no reason to immidiatly snap and call someone out if you have no proof.
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Yeah and then I get the games where I went on a rampage and have people being like "How did you know where everyone was?? You don't even have BBQ!" when i'm literally running discordance.
It's like gee, I know where half the team is and I have a pretty good idea of where the other people I saw in the last 20 seconds are. On the gen nearby! Shocker! And maybe on disturbed ward I had the idea to walk to the top of the building to do my stalking as Ghostface. But how did I just magically find everyone????
And this is literally with a steam account that's public with like 17 years of no VAC bans.
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I always wondered why it seems way more common for survivors to cheat than killers. I mean killers are considered weaker than survivors at the high end, so wouldn't it be more logical for them to cheat? Anyway, I think it's most likely a smaller percentage than how many survivors are cheating, be it subtle or blatant.
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Not having any data, I'd assume cheating killers are there as much as cheating survivors, it's just more difficult to notice probably
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Myers is one of the Killers that looks faster because of his animations, Myers animation is that of a person walking but speeded up to 115%, I obviusly dont cheat and Myers is the only Killer Ive ever played that on very rare ocasions people ask if I was slightly hacking, never happened with any other Killer, this applies to some other Killers like Clown or Freddy.
Also Killers may appear faster if they are looping very tight to the wall, same as Survivors, its not that they are faster but the overall distance is shorter and it can make a difference, maybe shaving one lap on the loop.
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It's hard to tell with slight hacks, but I know for sure I've encountered more blatant hacking killers than I have survivors.
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In my experience, I'd say at least 1 out of 10 matches lately. There are just some matches that feel really unnatural to me in some aspects that really make me believe the Killer is using some hacking to their advantage. I have enough game sense to know a few things about getting lucky or me making a mistake that is convenient to the Killer, but there are some matches where the Killer seemingly always knows where everyone is, regardless of distance for BBQ or other aura reading perks.
I just had a match yesterday against a Huntress that would know exactly where I was going to turn in every tall-loop and had the hatchet ready in every instance with almost no wind-up time. My initial guess was that they were running I'm All Ears with wind-up decrease add-ons, but surprise, they had neither. The most blatant thing was they running exactly to the locker were I was despite entering before they hooked the Survivor they were carrying and claiming they just "guessed".
Also Pinheads knowing exactly where the box is all the time is a common one for me. I encounter it in at least 1 of every 3 Pinheads I face.
It's hard to tell for sure. The matches just simply feel unnatural.
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In my experience, I've encountered far more survivor hackers than I have killers. So probably not that common.
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A lot of people who accuse killers of hacking simply aren't familiar with all the killers, their powers, bloodlust, etc. There are a TON of legit variables with killers that make things seem sus if you aren't familiar with them.
Heck, I have played over 1500 hours and I am pretty certain I don't have it all down 100%.
With survs, it's easier to pick hacking out because they are all essentially re-skins of each other, so a lot less potential for odd variances.
Reason #987678 to play relatively even amount of both sides; ignorance can make you look silly.
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Its either going to be insanely common because of how miserable it is to play killer, or its going to be about 1/4th as common as subtle survivor hacking.
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I’ve had two subtle speed hacking killers. A doctor and a nemesis. The doctor game was caught by a ttv I was playing with but I don’t think he used his vod to report them. I’ve also been matched with a survivor who would ‘lag’ running in place and then suddenly teleport across the map. I didn’t even notice he was doing it until we were 3 gens in and he magically appeared on a gen next to me and then disappeared when the killer arrived.
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The last time I mentioned him, my post was deleted. I'm sure you can find out about it on your own.
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More than you realize, for sure.
It can be very difficult to tell.
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