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Tunnelling and Looping
Just finished a game where I played as Ghostface and got 3 out of 4 kills. Survivors after the game were extremely toxic saying I was tunnelling even though they were looping the entire game? Why are y'all like this
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Both are acceptable playstyles.
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Trying to figure out why they looping has anything to do with you tunneling? Everyone should play how they want long as it's fun to them. If somehow tunneling is fun then go for it. These days you should be shocked and jump for joy if they are looping instead of pre-dropping and holding W.
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I use the ping pong strat. Everyone knows that no matter how good a killer you are if you hook survivor A, then B, Then C, Then D, Then A, Then B, Then C, Then D you're probably gonna get a 0 or a 1K if you're lucky. Killers know that they need their first kill preferably at 2+ gens remaining and if you don't tunnel or ping pong then that will be very unlikely to happen.
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How are either of the two remotely comparable outside of both being valid playstyles?
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I don’t know why campers , tunnelers and noed killers always need to feel they are good killers. If some one tells them what are they doing they feel bad
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Good killers camp/tunnel/use NOED too though? It has no relation to skill.
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There is a difference. Looping isnt toxic because survivors have to keep the killer busy in order to win. But tunneling IS toxic because killers dont have to tunnel necessarily to win. They can still win by playing fair.
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I don't know why gen jockeys, hold w users, and CoH/DH survivors need to feel they are good survivors (everything is hit/hold a button). if someone tells them what are they doing they feel bad.
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I don't know why you keep whining non-stop about tunneling, camping, and NoED. It's like you have a set goal to insult anyone who does not follow your insipid, fake rules.
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Agreed. Then there is solo's caught in the crossfire of this. I'm a solo survivor which is why I am sometimes vocal against killers who tunnel/camp but it's aimed at the ones who do it right from the start without even knowing if they are playing solo's or some optimal team. I will always consider myself a killer main but I play plenty of solo to hate SWF and camping/tunneling killers (my described versions).
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So you want insta drop pallets with no mindgame?
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Now where exactly is the connection between tunneling and looping?
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I just played against an artist who did 0 hooks before 5 gens were done. Of course, he had noed. 2 kills at the end because few pallets and he camped. Of course all noed killers can think he’s a very good killer.
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They used an end-game perk in the gasp end game to good enough effect to get 2 kills.
Of course, all whiny Survivors will claim it's proof NoED is 'op'.
Get it through your head; the game DOES NOT END when 5 gens are done. Survivors HAVE NOT WON until they LEAVE THE MAP. So I don't get why y'all keep babbling 'before 5 gens were done' like it means anything. It means nothing. 0. Zilch. Nada. Bupkis. Jack squat.
It's not some magical 'Survivors won because 5 gens' finish line except in the head of whiny Survivors who insist it's proof NoED is 'unfair' or 'OP' or 'unfun'. 🙄
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If you do not want to hear about tunneling, do not tunnel. And even that advice is not a surefire way to prevent it.
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Nothing in the game is inherently toxic. They could be toxic where either side starts ######### talking in post game chat or messaging you on xbox or playstation. As for the "killer don't need to tunnel to win" same could be said for survivors. You don't really need to loop to win if you can just hold W against more than half the roster and pre drop every pallet.
Either way what's considered as a "win" as survivor is purely if YOU escaped or not. Not if 3 or 4 people on your team did, just you managing to escape and 3 other teammates that distracted the killer died while you sat on a gen the entire time having no interaction with the killer.
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You would not believe how often I get called a camper or tunneler, even if I make a point not too.
it's why I can't watch youtubers; the second their buddies go down 'OMG! He'S cAmPiNg/tunneling/slugging!' No, buddy; he knocked your friend down 2.3 seconds ago, and another Survivor was 3 feet away. What did you expect the Killer to do? Walk away?
It got so teeth-grindingly frustrating, to hear Survivor youtubers whine these excuses the SECOND they start to lose. No Killer can ever win 'fairly' because the second they start to win; Survivors claim it's the result of camping, tunneling, or slugging. It's never 'The Killer out played me! Good game!' unless the youtuber in question is a literal saint.
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Yes, yes, yes; a thousand times yes.
Sooo many survs are convinced they are being tunneled when they aren't, because they are ignorant of how games go for killer. All they know is that they've been chased/hit/downed multiple times, with no contextual awareness of what is going on with the killer and other survs. It's a perspective issue that only really gets alleviated by playing a lot of killer.
Everyone has their own definition, but a rule of thumb for me is that if the killer lets you out of their sight, you probably aren't really being tunneled. If another surv is hooked before the killer turns back to you, you definitely aren't. A legit, focused tunnel is going to be swift and brutal.
And really good killers are going to make you feel like they are everywhere at once, but that doesn't mean you are being tunneled.
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One of the times I saw real tunneling was an Otz video where he was Survivor, and the Killer was literally ignoring everyone for 1 Survivor.
Like, the Killer would hit others if they bodyblocked, but he was DEAD SET on killing one, specific Survivor, and ignored everyone else until then. ...And then he would slug and ding-dong his bell nonstop.
It was one of the few times I could point at a video and say 'That was, legit, toxic tunneling'.
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