Since Stretched is gone.
can we fast track that anti camp prototype since people seem to deem this as the best playstyle in comp and in normal gameplay. Yall think Stretched Res users are mad oh man imagine the people who do nothing but facecamp the first survivor they down time to go ahead and address this now.
Since someone has tried to reach and make a connection that isn't supposed to be the point of the post allow me to clarify I'm not calling Facecamping cheating. Next let me clarify why Stretched res is even being discussed here I'm simply saying people are crying now that it's gone facecampers hopefully soon too will be crying. I'm not in any way shape or form comparing them I'm saying people were upset for this and the same people who are upset for this right now will be the same people crying facecamping is gone and 99% of the Killers in comp used stretched and facecamped.
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I think the hook grab on healthy survivors needs to go. Cannibal may well see a nerf but not as sure about that.
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Just had a Trickster facecamp someone to death using the "Hexy strat" at the start of the match pretty much (All jokes aside it's funny to call it that) but yeah him and Bubbha are slowly becoming issues tricker can just spam his blades and get a down so quick and bubbha is just instant hopefully the prototype makes it into the game because ngl it's time to address this comp playstyle honestly.
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There's no good way to fix facecamping.
Every solution either involves re-designing basic game mechanics or unfairly punishes Killers.
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while I think you're right here's hoping Behavior actually designed something that works.
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"since you took out cheating can you just bake something akin to that/huge buff for survivors into the game?"
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Can we also have something to address the insta pallet drop comp playstyle meta? Cause a lot of the time, that's literally WHY I camp, if I so choose to camp.
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Well, if they nerf him, I am probably gone. He is the only killer I can tolerate against good survivors. Do not get me wrong, I can play any killer against average survivors, but just knowing that I would need to learn Nurse or Blight to have a chance? Nah. Screw that. They can enjoy their dimishing playerbase if they actually decide go cater to those clowns.
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You miss the part where the Dev's already confirmed this is coming right?? Sooo yeah.
Also just to make it clear this isn't a buff more of a balancing as this playstyle is outdated and I'm refering to the classic down a survivor and facecamp them to make the match easier and slug everyone else.
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The devs confirming it is coming has nothing to do with your post asking for it be done asap due to stretched res being removed.
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I mean they just need to reduce pallets that's just more of a too many pallets to drop issue but sure I don't really care.
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Yes the dev's put time into fixing this which took resources so yes I'm asking for it to be done soon I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make to be totally honest. If you're saying I'm comparing Camping to Cheating you're incorrect. Also that is more aimed at how many people are raging because stretched is removed I'm saying if the prototype is added soon you will see more malding hence why I even said anything about stretched res.
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They can fix hook camping by hook swaps when the killer is too close. This idea unfortunately can be abused tho by other survivors. I do think its an idea that they should at least try or even force killers to loose bp if they stay too close
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My point is you're not asking for it in a vacuum. The entire premise of your thread title and OP is a 'tit-for-tat' that since stretched is gone they need to implement anti-camp asap.
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I mean the best way to make this work is
- Make it so the teammate's cannot be in the area
- Make it so the Killer won't know the location of the survivor unhooked maybe even give the survivor a limited time Iron will for x amount of seconds
- Lastly make this not apply to end game
Problem solved tbh
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Dude I literally only brought up stretched res because people are mad it's gone I literally say that in my post. What you're trying to say isn't the point of the post brotherman.
I'm basically saying right that if stretched res users are mad its gone wait until facecampers deal with the prototype if it ever goes live. You're trying to reach and make a totally different claim.
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"Since stretched is gone"
"can we fast track that anti camp prototype"
Rrriiiighhhttt.....
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Aight man believe what you want you are your own person good day.
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Thank you for understanding what point I'm making glad everyone isn't being confused by what I'm saying.
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It is....it has been abused by survivors when they face pyramid Head and cages.....if PH is too close to a cage the cage will teleport.... survivors know this and purposely run the chase around the cage to cause it to tp at a waiting survivor to uncage
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I mean to be totally fair most PH's see the person removed from the box and break chase to purposely tunnel them people do this to get that person on the other side of the map while he's chasing them.
there's ways to make this fair reason above not everything has to happen but it's a worth while thing to atleast test right.
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Is it camping if you've got an aura reading addon that shows how a survivor is just waiting nearby?
At 1 gen left with all four still alive?
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Yea I agree. Campers that camp to remove people should be fixed but it is a valid strategy if use correctly and not as toxic behavior. For me I only camp and tunnel 3 types......Clicky Click survivors...... survivors that make me want to remove them asap......and.......Ace......if I see a Ace they will die.....slowly....painfully....and I'll watch the life leave their eyes as the Entity takes thier soul ....
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I'm strictly talking about the comp strat which is downing a survivor at 5 gens and just camping them out and slugging the other 3 not talking anything towards end game.
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People really cling to this "anti camp" thing mentioned off hand once multiple Q&A's ago and not mentioned yet, and that has been tried before and never works (which they even mentioned in that Q&A) but people who really hate camping are clinging to this like it's100% a done deal and going to make it in. If it's coming, I wouldn't expect it until the end of the year.
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you don't win against good survivors with leatherface
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I wouldn't say clinging I'd say people are hopeful that since the Developers have grown and clearly have a vision in place that they'd be able to find a solution that works for both sides keep in mind the old system was outdated and it was during a time in the game where it was doomed to not work but now seeing as how the dev's have since then added PH who basically has that same system built into his basekit.
Keep in mind nothing is 100% but people should atleast be hopeful that with all the fresh minds they claim to have that some have come up with a unique system that is fair.
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IMO Devour Hope always was the best anti-tunneling/facecamping perk in the game; sadly is just instantly vanishes after accumulating three stacks. I think this would be the way to go, ie give killers some basekit Devour Hope-esque buffs, like each time they are far away from the hook, but make it something like 3% gen/healing slowdown per token and maybe some instant regression.
The gen repair speed is the biggest culprit these days, holding killers back from playing nice. The second you don't tunnel and pressure the same survivors these days is the moment you start losing, because the clock just inevitable ticks down for ya. So how could you get killers to try to get more hooks and don't tunnel/proxycamp while doing so, without hurting them in the process? With something like this!
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Dude stop reaching seriously I can tell you didn't read.
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Its a bad comparison though.
Stretch res was basically cheating as it invalidated mindgames at structures.
facecamping is just game play doesn't matter how many gens are up.
Its not the most interactive gameplay but it is gameplay none the less, sometimes its the best thing you can do at the time game wise.
Complaining about strecth res was legit, complaining about camping is just whiny BS.
Go for a hook save and get some exchanges happening, get in the killers face, mix it up, some of the best games I've had as survivor and killer have been played around the basement. Usually against a bubba its thrilling.
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You can ask, you can pray to whatever supernatural entity you want, you can even throw salt over your shoulder for all the good it will do.
They'll release it when they'll release it.
And then the killer population will drop even more ... or not.
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The comparison was made because of the outcry comp players are throwing over it being removed those same people will throw a fit once the comp strat is dead no it's not a bad comparison it just involves people understanding the context and not reaching but as per usual people have to make something outta nothing and try to derail a post. That's a big issue on this forum ngl people jump ship without understanding the full story and start trying to make claims that aren't valid. If I was gonna discuss cheating I'd be discussing why Behavior needs to drop EAC as fast as possible and seek a better anti cheat.
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Make it so that when the a killer stands too close to a hook for too long, the survivor's bar decreases dramatically or stops totally. And then if they continue to do it for a long time, it will slowly increase the chances of kobying with applied BT to the koby.
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This is the failed system people refer too Survivors found ways to abuse the hook timer pausing by just looping the killer around hook.
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I think they has to fix the fact NOT camping being most inefficient method to play this game.
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Yep.. every time BHVR tried to add something to prevent camping or tunneling, survivors abused the ######### out of it. So things won't change until survivors learn not to abuse things that are there to make the game less painful for some people and to prevent camping/tunneling. You only got yourselves to blame if these changes aren't viable.
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I think you missed the point. Even with he context you propose the premise is flawed.
You are decrying people for complaining about stretch res removal then saying there will be a similar outcry over camping next, but one thing really has nothing to do with the other. Why didn't you pick dead hard, boons or any other of the bajillion things people cry about on this forum.
Is it because you don't like camping and want to complain about people who camp in a passive aggressive swipe about how they'll cry when camping gets removed, as if its somehow equivalent to the removal of strecth res? Because that's kinda how it sounds, which is kinda more you just indirectly whining about camping.
I get what you were trying to do, you just didn't do it very well.
If you want to go for a snide swipe knock yourself out, but you can't get pissy if someone points out it wasn't a very good one.
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The fix for camping is making killer have better mobility/info as a base kit.
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What a terrible argument.
"Since a form of cheating has been disabled, remove a playstyle that I don't like." You know, a form of playstyle that doesn't even have anything to do with stretched res.
Also gotta have a laugh at "The best playstyle in comp." The day we start balancing around the 10 players in a discord server who think "comp" is a thing is a sad day indeed.
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You should just make it so that when the killer is in a chase, it doesn't pause it. Simple.
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That still punishes camping when it’s stupid to not camp. Like hooking someone by an important gen/there being multiple survivors near which means starting chase with anyone gives another the free unhook/someone about to hit second or die/endgame/gaining or regaining pressure when behind/etc.
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well, if you as killer left be looped close to a hook (especially one located in a dead zone, which is pretty easy these days) while BHVR tried to fix face camp by pausing time for the survivor who was hooked close to the killer, let's think: Who is abusing what here? or rather, who is to blame for what here?
You have one person looping (or two) near the hook while another 3 (or two) are on the generator or doing other objectives.
at least pretend fake it= get off the hook, let the survivor take the other off the hook and go back to tunnel. 0 even brain cells.
it doesn't even need to be pausing the hook time, many other much less impactful solutions have been given (remove grab, ex), but it's always the same excuse that survivors will abuse.
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