General Discussions
General Discussions
in high MMR , if the killer is facecamping , can we finish all gens ?
can we 3 survivors finish 5 gens and escape?
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If you actually do them, yes.
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Nope! 400 seconds of pure gen time is longer than full to zero on hook so its highly likely someone else is going down and getting camped before you get to exit gates.
Also to factor in dedicated campers now run Deadlock to delay you even further and a spicy noed on top
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If you trade hooks you have enought time.
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Okay, so what you do is you do the gens at the same time, right? So you see... You are not waiting 400 seconds. And it is not as if the killer spawns right in front of a survivor and instant downs them right by a hook. Very weird assumptions as you almost make it sound like you play against face campers despite not knowing how it works.
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Yes, but actually no
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In SWF, yes. In solos, you just have to pray your teammates slam gens. Half the time at least 1 teammate will just sit by the hook and watch.
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k so i got the math wrong but its still not possible to do because 3 survivors can only do 3 seperate gens and maybe part of a 4th in the full hook timer
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There is chase and search time before one gets hooked, and after there you have 120 seconds to do gens.
If it take more than 15 seconds to hook a person, it should be fine as you have 360 seconds across all survivors.
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Yeah, survivors only have 360seconds out of 400 seconds.
Only if first survivor didn't get hooked immediately and managed to chase for at least 15seconds.
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If you are doing your job properly (and if the facecamping killer is too), you should both expect 2 out with 2 dead.
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It doesn't happen at the tournament level when teams are more coordinated. The killer would have to bring a terrible loadout and have zero game sense for it to happen. But if the killer has Corrupt Intervention/Deadlock or even Ruin, it's not happening.
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Someone knowledgeable. There's hope in this fog after all.
You can ensure trades only with a coordinated double save. Which means only 1 person on gen.
Otherwise, the wonderfully designed mechanic of hook grabs says you probably should stick to a gen.
Grabs are inconsistent but they DO happen. And if you go for a solo save against a facecamper and get grabbed and slugged under the hook, the trial is over. Conversely, if you do play the chicken game of "I don't want to get grabbed/the killer doesn't want to m1 me", then you've just wasted gen time.
Lastly, what's been said in the post I quoted above.
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To echo what you said, survivors have to factor in the possibility that the killer is good and knows how to camp. Any contested 1 for 1 is a risky proposition, especially with crossplay enabled. You start playing ping vs ping with a high level killer and the risk of a grab is tremendous.
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Very well worded. I'm on the same page as you.
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Your math is a little off. Gens aren’t sequential, the first three gens would be done simultaneously. So it takes, without any tools or abilities, 80 seconds for the first three gens. The next two are likewise done simultaneously, so without tools they take 80 more seconds, meaning all five gens could be done with no buffs and only one person per gen in 160 seconds.
That’s still technically more than the 120 seconds it takes to die on hook, but when you take into account that the killer will probably take at least 30-40 seconds to get a down and carry someone to a hook plus some survivors having toolkits you’re looking at more than enough time for literally all generators to be done if the killer downs one survivor, chases noone else and just facecamps that one survivor for two minutes.
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