Blood Pact/Object Of Obsession needs to be kill switched immediately
For some reason posts about this get deleted? why? there's a huge wall hack problem where you can use these perks together to see the killers aura forever while you are injured. I get you don't want people to use it but isn't this what the kill switch is for? Not a good look when posts are being deleted instead of the issue being addressed!!!
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Uhh, with the Onryo spam right now.....I don't think it 's that big of a deal. If you wanna go have 1 way wallhacks against you vs. stealth killers be my guest
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Are the posts being deleted or are they being moved and merged with other bug reports on the same issue?
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Onryo still needs to uncloak to hit you? so this is still a problem even for stealth killers, plus you really suggesting everyone is only playing onryo right now? How can you not see how this is a huge problem?
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Yeah the posts aren't being deleted they're being merged there's posts already in the bug section.
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You clearly don't understand how undetectable works.
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Way to dodge everything I said. If you can't see why this is a problem its a waste of time trying to talk to you.
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It is. Every post on this forum is basically a waste of time. The dev's don't read most of them.
If the killer is in undetectable 90% of the game, then this combo doesn't work. In fact it totally benefits the killer. So when the killer being played the overwhelming majority of the time is an undetectable killer, who cares?
I had to deal with Object being perma wallhacks for years, even against stealth killers. If it's back but they need to be injured and it takes 2 perk slots now, I don't care that much. I beat it back then and ill beat it now if I see it.
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bruh no one plays onryo anymore
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i wish
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So you like to face this combo over dead hard circle of healing unbreakable borrowed time?
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hehe as a twins main i would kill to face a blood pact & ooo combo instead of CoH users
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The problem with this bug is that you don't get vision on survivor. Only survivor can see you
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I don't think they will kill switch because there is not game breaking bug. Nurse and Wake Up kill switched because they had more serious issues. But this bug probably will fix with next bug-fix update.
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Your logic is hilariously flawed, first off nobody cares you used to beat people with the old object, you're not special for doing that. So using this as an opportunity to boast about how you "beat them then and you'll beat them now" is just weird. The facts here are this is an unintended effect of this combination so it needs to be addressed, even if this somehow was never a problem for stealth killers (and it is, try going against good survivors abusing this combo and let me know how that goes) that's still a vast majority of the killers in the game who can't do anything about this. It's straight up delusion to now see the issue here.
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Interesting but they need to get rid of it
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You must have missed the part where I said I already played this game. I already had to go against perma wallhacks object on maps with 2x the pallets of the current ones. So now it's back, and they have to be injured the whole time and undetectable is a thing? I'm not worried about it at all. I didn't see a single person try it the whole weekend.
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Ok well that is different. I assumed it was just active both ways the whole time which isn't a big problem to me.
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At least let bloodpact be the only one killed switch since it's kinda useless. You still get more value with object by itself.
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Hmm lets see,will BHVR killswitch the perk,or delete everything that mentions it.
Hmmmm
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The kill switch is only for bugs.
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Oh, just saw the video - this is a real BIG bug. Seeing the killer all time is not good.
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It is not a big deal, the killer can see the survivor auras. It is not game breaking enough to warrant killswitching it.
Besides, the two perks are useless on their own.
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"Besides, the two perks are useless on their own."
Right - but if i can use these two and see the killer all game i don´t need any other perk.
So i would say this is a big deal...
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Yeah, you may want to watch some of the vids out there on it. The undetectable status is not helping at all in loops. You can see everything the killer does. Even when Pig tries the crouch dash move or Onryo fades in and out. You still get plenty of wall hack time to react.
This is a gross bug and should be kill switched immediately.
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Killer can't get 100% aura sight on survivors during loops. Go look at the numerous vids showing how easy it is to loop any killer due to having full-time wall hacks.
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Killer can't see survivors aura in this situation. Only survivor get infinite aura reading
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I actually believe they can't, but even if they could, the Survivor gets a lot more out of it than the Killer does.
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They are wasting half of their build for an aura reading. Killers still have BBQ and other addons that show auras.
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the killer can't see the aura because OoO is only meant to show the killer Aura when the killer can see the survivor Aura ( every 30 seconds at least depending on killer build), so while the survivor can see the killer's aura permanently the killer can only see the survivor's aura on certain ocassions
also no these perk don't suck, blood pack is great and OoO is a good risk reward perk
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Can you explain how this works because I do not understand what kind of interactions are between this two perks to have perma wallhack :|
You can see the obsesion aura with Blood Pact but not killer aura, and OOO doesnt give you perma aura reading
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Reports in the bug form are claiming that Object of Obsession is crashing the game. So something might actually be game breaking.
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That's not true, killer gets a lot more benefit from aura reading. Knowing where survivors are located with BBQ is a tremendous benefit. It is almost gamebreaking. The only thing survivors can do with an aura is react.
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I can't belive someone defends exploits like this. Wow. Just wow.
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Are you pretending or do you really not understand it?
BBQ shows you the auras only for 6 seconds - if you see the killer walking in your direction after the hook you just can walk away.
But if you see the killer all the time you just can evade him - all the time. He will not find you with this.
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Doctor always know where you are, is that fair? Let's not pretend killers don't always know where survivors are located.
Blight also has an aura addon that. Wraith too.
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Yes they have. But if you see the doctor - all the time - you walk to the other side of the map.
He only finds you if you are in his terror radius when he blasts.
Also you see Blight and Wraith - all the time - so what you are doing? Walk to the other side of the map maybe? See a pattern here?
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If it is crashing game, they have to kill-switch. But i doubt they will do it because of aura reading.
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Put your money where your mouth is, go against a 4 man swf with thousands of hours and let them use this and see what happens.
You're that person who can't an issue in something unless it inconveniences you personally. I haven't gone against this myself but i mention it because I can see the massive issue that this is. This is not intentional and giving any decent survivor wallhacks like this is really bad. Why do you think original object got changed on the first place?
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It can be both. Unlimited unconditional aura reading at infinite distance can very much be game breaking in a different way.
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OoO+ Blood Pact is bugged, Wake Up is bugged and even the shop itself is bugged.
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...never would have expected to see people saying this is no big deal that survivors get a permanent wall hack in game and that isn't game breaking for the killer side
Never change BHVR Forums, you're too much fun
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The thing is if you purposely always avoid the killer you'll lose the game. You have to do the gens in order to escape. The doctor will be there blasting where he thinks you are and his terror radius can be very large, even larger with addons.
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Tried this combo once to see if it actually works. Never doing it again. I feel unclean.
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yeah pretty much, just people exposing how little they understand this game.
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Yeah and every survivor who has the perks and knows about it, is using it atm. I got 2 last match, with 4 DH on a rpd map
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So 3rd party software cheaters tend to avoid bans...a lot. Now we finally have something easy we can do to prevent wall + speedhacks and we're not kill switching it?
So a bug that can crash your game caused by wake up? Removed it. A hard-to-recreate Nurse bug? Have fun seeing ONLY Blight at high mmr. Grabs are already buggy. I have 400+ hrs on Nurse and have gotten post blink grabs twice. Either the grab wouldn't happen because grabs are garbage or they would...move? I don't disagree with removing her until it was fixed, but some cosistency would be nice. I had played her multiple times just before she was switched off with 0 issues.
But wall hacks and perma speedboost? Fine. All good. Totally not exploitable and doesn't need fixing. I mean it's not like people who use 3rd party cheats get banned all that often anyways, given that I've gone against the same ones multiple times. I stopped reporting them at this point.
Infinite on Badham? It's fine. I guess I'll just DC at the offering screen since I'm getting offered there constantly.
Also delete CoH thanks.
Once everyone gets bored of Sadako, killer players are gonna drop like flies (again). The one stat they'll never tell us in Q&As is the killer to survivor ratio.
Eventually I'm gonna get tired of seeing this game collecting dust on my desktop and uninstall but I keep hoping it will get better. Please get better! This game could be so good if it was given some QoL and game health updates rather than focusing on new releases. There is so much going with interesting game mechanics, a neat niche, and licenses for so many horror icons. Please listen to the community and give the game the love it deserves.
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So it looks like Badham wont be killswitched so maybe BHVR will killswitch the wall hack perk combo? OBO and blood pact combined will allow you to constantly see the killers aura. Ffs BHVR.
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Not in the weekend, it won’t.
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Already been reported Behavior is aware check the bug reporting section.
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Then why arent the 2 perks kill switched?
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