Playing against a nurse is a waste of time
Every time I hear the nurse's blink, someone from my team disconnects and I have to kill myself on the hook, and I go to the next match, and guess what, it's another nurse. (I love going against nurse but apparently my team doesn't like it) and when one of my team does not disconnect, she is using double range, literally you have nothing to do. I never thought it would be so boring to play against a nurse...
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Maybe a harsher penalty for DCing or suiciding on the first hook?
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Problem with Nurse is if she is good then is pointless to play because you really cant do much against her unless you get one of the great maps, if she is bad then is pointless to play too because its going to be a 5 minutes 4 escape with MAYBE one or two hooks, usually there is no middle ground.
Overall Nurse makes games extremely boring because either you stomp or get stomped and both situations are not very stimulating, I rarely complain if people go AFK/DC/suicide against her, especially if Survivor queue is instant also I rarely unhook the suiciders, if they dont want to play a doomed game I wont force them to stay.
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It is what it is. Nurse needs a rework.
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I'd rather get facecamped by Leatherface than vs a Nurse
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For a nurse game to be fun you need a mediocre nurse. God nurses are literally inescapable and baby nurses will end up just walking at you. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to play against either.
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Honestly I agree.
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And getting genrushed by a 4 man swf bully squad isnt?
Jokes aside
Well thats dbd
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I actually love facing a good nurse. It's fun when you know what to do and its engaging. Now a "god" nurse on the other hand. Thats pointless to go against.
At least with Nurse I get to play. Ill face a nurse over bubba anyday
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OP is having a discussion about nurse, not survivors. Stop trying to change the subject.
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I completly understand you, there is nothing we can do, this player base cry too much for everthing
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bruh
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He should know that Nurse is a BS-Design. But he does not want to admit it, so he does Whataboutism.
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I completely agree. Especially currently since every Nurse is running at least one Range Add-On.
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What the heck is up with all these Nurse threads?????
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people got used to the nurse being disabled, and now they don't want to play anymore
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I think since she got re enabled a lot of people felt like playing her after 3 weeks. So the community is realizing how unbalanced she is
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She isn't an unbeatable just requires you to play differently.
Plus if SBMM worked at all you'd be having even fair and fun games against her as its pure mind games vs mind games.
Her stomping you consistently is indicative of Match Making being the issue as you shouldn't be put against Nurses so far better then you that you can't do anything against her.
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In the hands of a good player nurse is terrifying to try and escape from. Makes for great games, the threat is real.
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The problem insn't me, is my team who kill themselfs on the hook when is a nurse btw
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I was referring to the 2nd part were you said you can't do anything against the nurse.
"when one of my team does not disconnect, she is using double range, literally you have nothing to do. I never thought it would be so boring to play against a nurse..."
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My friend hates to play her since just recently, he says she is bugged (at least her animation). Personally it feels weird since he mentioned it, but i never played her myself (yet), and when i played against her it was a coinflip if i'm good enough against her (or rather she is bad, lol) or she is insane with every blink and get's me with such precise blinks i can't react (with my skill).
I like the idea of her, and it can be fun if i get one on my skill level, but that is too rare and i feel bad when a killer gets stomped on (except they are toxic :P) so i sometimes like to use the endgame to train the looping and let myself get killed by the entity.
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I'm sorry but there needs to be a "go to" for people fed up with swf that doesn't include camp/tunnel skill monsters. Besides, it takes a long time to get good with her.
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Makes sense but jeez people
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So if it's a killer that can catch you if they are good we throw a fit and DC? And if it's a killer that cant catch you. You complain they are boring? Lol you all are silly honestly here this should help ya
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dbd players btw
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How is it possible to still misunderstand sarcasm even if I wrote right below it "jokes aside"? 😂
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Crybabies are pretty rare in my games. And, cheaters excepted, I tend to spank survivors a lot.
The nice thing is that even a beginner (thanks MMR) appears to learn a thing of twos during one single match. Players with more experience start to be difficult to chase. (Using any of the many known ways to juke a Nurse)
There are, of course, the ones who will cry and throw a fit, and pout, and leave the game. Thankfully, in my experience, these entitled brats are pretty rare. Most players do their best to learn to verse her.
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If anyone has the audacity to say dh is op and nurses at top mmr aren’t op, I seriously can’t take them seriously, she is far and away the strongest killer of any killer, anyone that takes the time to learn her will eventually become stronger than any other killer with the same level of effort put in, only killer that’s even close is blight, abs his gliding around everything may be just as bad
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nm
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Nurse is so much fun Haha. Worst case ontario everybody dies in 3 minutes. I'd prefer that over suffocating against a Hag.
Cant say I care for the Nurses that attempt 4 man slugs at 5 gens though. At least let enough gens fly before getting that desperate lol.
Nurse is a meta killer who you can use stealth or psychological tactics against , I love that
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Because ######### Nurse, that's why. If she isn't op then why have the devs never released a killer that can touch her?
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Well they prob dc'd because they aren't good vs a nurse.
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It's not a Nurse issue. Actually survivors dc when they are downed in 5 seconds, no matter the killer they are facing.
The thing is that at high MMR and the killer is Nurse the survivor predicts it's a good Nurse thus the quitting is sooner.
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nurse is the definition of anti fun in this game thats why people prefer to leave ASAP, especially when u play solo, the only way to beat a good nurse is by having an amazing team rushing gens asap, and oall of them running meta perks, there is no other way to pull it off OR she is garbage, but that isnt realistic in high mmr. solos fall apart like a sack of potatoes against her, unless seh has a rough start not finding anyone or something wich is odd to happen especially with so many nurses using lethal persuer wich is S+ tier her to start a chase in 2 seconds into the game and potentially finish it in 15 seconds into the game, thats the amount of pressure she imposes...
so people prefer to leave since she is so unfun to go against. rather get bubba face camp me at least if he gets me is my fault for looping badly or getting zoned or just making mistakes and he capitalize by being smarter (or perks like bamboozle wich 90% of bubas in high mmr use).... but nurse is all about getting "outplayed" and is all into " " because is about her missing not u making her miss if she is good u will only make her miss once, with dead hard. especially because they all run her best addons all the time and u get no distance over her. she is the anti fun and people who say she is fun to go agaisnt one they are lying, two they are nurse mains (so point one they probably barely paly survivor) three they liek going against average nurses who fall for double backs, LOS and other useless tricks AGAINST REALLY GOOD NURSES dont work, U MAY SURPRISE HER ONCE aside dead hard but u will go down 5 seconds later, so since she is the anti fun people dont like to play against her, i normally dont kill on hook but sometimes i do so i dont waste my time and go for a game where survivors defenses may actually do something, and no "tricks or teqs" that only work against begginers.
she is bad designed... u can make a killer strong without needing to break every single mechanic in this game, for example Blight and he has many "exploits" but still he needs to play the looping game and all those survivor defenses can be used (it gets kinda unfair when he runs compound 33 and ring or ring and green vial for more tokens but aside of those addons he is kinda balanced, very strong and alright to go against, i would nerf those dumbo addons tho, keep speed but the others are very dumb) and still he is S tier and way more decent experience than a nurse.
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Aren't we getting to a point where nerfing the nurse will just end up making her played by those & only those who are already pros at her? So What? What'll change? Suiciding on hook everytime you'll face a nurse because there're no bad ones are around anymore because she's too hard to play? She already has the highest skill ceiling, the most nerfs besides the memes (pig, twins ect.) and prolly the most gimmicky yet expensive add ons in the game (anxious gasp f.e. green rarity, only a gimmick for bloodpoints). Looping wasn't intented to be a game mechanic so don't be mad about not to be able to loop her. I can't even blame people for wanting to learn her. Getting into a match the first time as a killer is extremly stressful. Hearing 2 Boons light up, 1 clicky clicky and at the end they end up spamming notifications by fast vaulting. If survivors use meta they should never expect the killer not to be meta too.
"God Nurse" - as if you encounter one so often that it messes up the whole game for you. Just like the killers say they only play against toxic bully depip squads.
Btw a god nurse can still be outplayed. Of course in soloQ it's harder than in a swf but that goes for every killer.
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I must be the luckiest player alive because I face Nurse like maybe 1 in 50 games.
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ignoring high mmr exists? if u are at high mmr the amoubnt of times youll face nurses is unreal, and they are there with the full gen regress + addons and they are all good, 90% of times u lose if u play solo and maybe u will get a chance to win if u play on a good 4 man all meta and a good map for u, unless all survivors are idk insane and she makes some mistakes and get nervous but other than that... u will lose most times, she is the anti fun in this game, rather go against 5 twins in a row than a nurse who actually knows how to play her to the max wich happens a lot in high mmr, them having many thousand hours in the game consistently and oftenly the same people over and over again u go agaisnt so the killer repeats a lot. of 5 matches yesterday 3 were nurses... i got disgusted and left the game after 1h or so
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Sarcasm doesn't translate very well in text due to lack of inflection/intonation that often denotes it when spoken. Even with jokes aside.
Also people take this forum, much like the game, way too seriously.
I like nurse playing her and playing against her. She's different, interesting and has one of the creepier aesthetics. Also the skill cap feels higher making that first 4k with her really satisfying.
I only have a few screen shots from DBD 1st 4k (as Hag), first Nurse 4k and Myers achievement match. A couple of hilarious post game salt shots that you always look back on fondly.
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A killer that has to win a completely even mindgame both sides have an equal chance at to land any hit because she literally cannot hit you otherwise (unless you massively screw up by walking into her face or a dead end). I will never understand people that call Nurse uncounterable.
Yeah, maybe if a perfect being that can see the future is playing her, sure. I’m not aware anyone like that exists, let alone plays DBD. That is the entire reason mindgames are a thing. You read how the other person plays. They read how you play. You both try to out-read/bait the other. Both sides adapt to the other and to throw off the other. The more skilled player wins the mindgame.
People will talk about good/god Nurses but they’re forgetting:
- There is also good/god survivors that can match said good/god killers (if they actually get matched together). If one side is outmatched, of course the results will be skewed. That’s not a balancing problem. That’s a matchmaking problem.
- MMR does not consistently give even-skill matches.
- MMR literally cannot consistently give even-skill matches to the small portion of this playerbase of very good players without queues taking literally forever - something BHVR themselves also stated in the Q&A stream. There’s just not enough players at their level, so they will be soft capped and thus matched with worse players.
- There are a load of uneven maps in this game that drastically swing the result in one side’s favor.
- Not everyone matched together is playing for the same goal (eg trying their best/full meta vs meme builds/just doing challenges/etc).
- Even the best Nurses in the entire world only average out to a 2K when against the best survivors in the world on an even map, and this is with much heavier restrictions on the survivors than on the Nurse. When there are completely zero restrictions or rules, Nurse’s average drops to a negative (below 2K average). This is for the literally world’s best Nurses.
- It is extremely rare to be going against god-tier players in general, and if you’re nowhere as good as them, it would be stupid if it wasn’t a landslide victory.
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I agree. It was better when she was disabled. It's a waste of time to play against nurse. She's boring meh
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Oh yes, the mmr.. everybody knows about it, doesn't know where they at in the mmr but apparently everyone is in the top 1% of the MMR.
And then there are 4 survivors with a total of 16 perks. As it should be in an asymmetric multiplayer game.
Should I also share how as a Nurse I got 3 CoH, 4 Dh, 4 DS & 4 BT abuser & 1 with iron will face in a single round, multiple times in a row? And how are the rounds? How much casual play is there left?
I would also rather run meme builds than the meta but then I might as well just stand in the corner and do nothing. Sure it's just a game but nobody plays games to lose. If Survivor went on a locker build I would equip Iron Maiden. I just adapt to my environment.
Problem is simply that the meta is too reliable and inexhaustible. But that's another topic.
In fact the Nurse is what was to come, were she to be nerfed she would still probably be godlike in the right hands, again as any other killer in the right hands. However, the old Nurse would then be replaced, with other killers who can rule mostly every game. And we all know, no matter who it will be, that this killer should be nerfed again. Every perk and every killer has a weakness, why pretend it's impossible to fight it? Challenges are what make the game so special, everything else would be boring.
If you really want to have the feeling of something disgusting then I hope you soon find instead of a nurse a facecamping Basement Bubba with Insidious who sets you as the first target multiple times in a row. You soon wish there was a nurse.
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Nurse is fun to vs
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It seems to be a player attitude observation... then a Nurse issue
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I have said this over and over. The devs don't seem to understand that they need to value FUN FACTOR when designing -anything- in DBD.
It needs to be fun for both sides.
The Nurse is a toxic anti-fun killer. She breaks one of the core basic tenets of the game - which in my opinion is THE most fun thing about this game - the chase. Nurse just goes through walls, pallets, it's just dumb.
The Doctor is another toxic anti-fun killer. He breaks another core tenet of the game - the patrol portion. No point in hiding, Doctor just AOE and boom finds you.
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The thing is with Nurse, if they know what they're doing there's literally no point in going against her. You might as well accept the game over.
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Every statistics, record and gameplay shows she is perfectly fine killer, some people don't like actually fair killer and rather want to play against slog I guess.
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I agree with the Fun Factor thing. But no killer is toxic on it's own, it's always the player who plays it. I find the chases with her are really somewhat different. She's jukeable like no other killer imo. Once you realise that you as a survivor are having a hitbox where she can't teleport into things start to be quite fun. The most unsafe loops become really safe.
The doctor is quite fun to juke too tbf. You can hear when he's about to blast (no pun intended) and when you're inside a locker as soon as he blasts the most time he will not look into the lockers and just assume noones there. A doctor will never check the lockers except it's only 1 survivor left for example and he knows the survivor must be nearby, he starts to get sus.
You guys really need to play some more killer or at least watch some videos about their weaknesses, dear lord.
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Well, "fun" hasn't been a point for balancing in respect to killer for a long time.
Debugging nurse was the first step in that direction in a looong time.
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If we consider fun factor we have to remove killer attack cooldown from the game, slash slash you dead wow fun such satisfaction.
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People gotta crutch on those Add-ons as long as they're there.
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There is nothing more boring than being facecamped, add on top of that it's of course Bubba. Jesus, even getting tunneled is more exciting because you at least play for a bit.
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