The Nurse Hate
a lot of people are complaining about nurse, and it’s just confusing to me. Can someone clarify what’s the problem with her? And if you do have a problem, let’s hear rework ideas then
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She's hilariously overpowered.
It's just not something we talk about a lot. It's just sort of understood that she's just...insane.
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If she’s so insane then what would you do? I’m seeing people saying she’s op but not really saying how to fix it
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Some players have that one good Nurse out of 300 matches plow over them, and therefore need to make a forum topic every day until she is nerfed (for no good reason).
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There's not a way to fix it without totally gutting Nurse.
She has the ability to ignore virtually every defence a Survivor has. There's not really any way to balance that.
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- Stealth
- Mind games
- Exhaustion perks
- Lockers
- Flashlights (ligtburn)
- Heck, even the occasional perfectly timed pallet drop
That’s six defenses right there, plus I’m sure someone else can chime in some more.
Edit: flashlights.
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All killers need to be balanced to Trapper level! That would be most fun
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How to fix nurse give her movement speed 1.6 m or 115 % and instant down in one hit.
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People have ears.
People have eyes and a good Nurse can at LEAST force a 50/50.
Dead Hard is good, the rest aren't.
Lockers, really? A man of your talents?
Lightburn. Wow. I've never seen a Nurse be lightburned before.
Ah, of course, a pallet.
Some people just can't admit Nurse is an issue. If you want the Killer experience to be better, Nurse has to go.
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When played perfectly you can't do anything against Nurse. To make matters worse, many perks that aren't great on a lot of killers are insanely good on her eg. Starstruck.
She's a problematic killer since she basically breaks the entire game over her knee. Compare her to Blight who is also in S tier and he doesn't even come close to the power level Nurse is at.
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Survivors have so many stealth perks for avoiding sight, making sound, and now even blood trails and scratch marks. A Nurse can’t chase or down what she can’t find. Even without perks, lockers are available every match (to avoid BBQ or other aura reading perks).
Mind games aren’t ever meant to be 100% against any killer, or are chases designed to be indefinite. Nurse changes how you evade, which other killers do as well.
Any exhaustion perk that gets you extra distance against her is excellent. Only Smash Hit would be a bad exhaustion perk against her usually.
Yeah, lockers. Believe it or not, you can actually juke a Nurse attack by jumping in a locker. And (gasp) even have enough time to jump out while she is in fatigue! And of course, blocking aura reading perks.
Lightburn is an option, even if difficult to achieve. As are pallets.
Nurse is here to stay. Hopefully she doesn’t get any more base kit changes.
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People severely underestimate how strong mindgaming works against Nurse, and blame Nurse for matchmaking problems like matching a good Nurse with way worse players.
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I'd rather Nurse be nerfed and Killers as a whole received buffs than continue to force players to suffer in the current Killer climate.
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You can buff other killers without nerfing Nurse.
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when a killer can ignore everything every single mechanic in the game ignored and every single "tech" "trick" is useless the hate comes-
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You should of been around when she could have up to five blinks.
I think since she got disabled people were experiencing what life was like without nurse - and they liked it.
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Because Nurse's power is severely flawed and is awful to go against.
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She can ignore usual defence survivors have, but then she gave them another kind of method to defence.
Seems like a unique killer with perfectly balanced statistics.
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The fact some people think Spirit is more OP than Nurse is baffling. Spirit wasn’t even more OP pre-nerf.
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Weren’t you the same member that made a post a while back saying Hag was OP after you lost to her?
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Regarding your comment regarding lockers, even if you time your exit millisecond perfect, you literally only get about 5 metres distance (not a lot)
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Spirit is as much as strong as nurse WHEN PLAYED PERFECTLY.
Ya know, like NEVER being mindgamed, always knows where survivor is, and never waste time in loops.
"perfectly" is most important thing, which most people expect from "good nurse" as they say "no counters does work against them because they don't make any mistake at all".
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But perks will still be stuck in their mediocre state. Nurse holds other killers back in regards to strong perks. Take Starstruck for example, they could buff the 30 second duration up to 60 seconds...if Nurse didn't exist. Her sheer strength prevents the devs from making strong perks because if they do, Nurse would literally be an unbeatable killer. She is holding the game back from being nearly as good as it has the potential to be in regards to killer gameplay.
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You people miss the point. It’s about Nurse not having to obey the physics of the game while every other killer has to. It’s not fair for the other 26 killers nor should a power like that be in the game in a relatively balanced state compared to 2016 DBD.
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Lmao
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What's the proof that shows nurse is holding strong perks back? because statistically nurse is NEVER been a strong killer, no way she can holds the perks back.
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Omg you're right, statistics show that Nurse is the weakest killer in the game, so how would you suggest we buff the killer that can already go through walls?
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lol
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I don't know, make her 4.6 with 5 blinks and it would surely bump statistics up to 80% or something I suppose.
Nurse is obeying different physics of the game, which is good thing because doing same loop every game is boring.
There is no REAL reason to not allow those powers, diversity is always welcome for game as long as it's not broken... and it's proven to be not broken by any data.
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I dunno if I ever said OP (you’re welcome to necro my thread or whatever), but I do hate Hag. However, let’s try to stay on topic yeah?
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Ah yes, 60 seconds of exposed with Starstruck. The entire duration of a hook state with no cool down. That couldn’t go wrong on any killer besides Nurse. /s
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Bad bait tbh.
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Are you serious lol? Before SBMM, Nurse had high kill rates at red ranks. Baby Nurses makes her kill rates low. If BHVR share only high MMR stats, i am sure you will surprise.
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So there was a statistics showed how killers perform in red ranks? that's awesome, I wanna see one.
I hope someone to came up with ACTUAL reasoning instead of something like this, I believe it's not hard since nurse is so broken.
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I am on topic but ok.
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Ofcourse.
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There is only 1 legitimate strategy against Nurse and that is to slam generators.
If:
- You slam generators and the player playing nurse hasn't mastered her. It will take her too long to get downs and everyone escapes.
- You slam generators but the Nurse has mastered her. Realistically you won't get them all done, but you might get 4 gens done before the game is over.
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"Nurse had high kill rate at red ranks" then shows a statistics which shows nurse has lowest kill rate of all killers.
Is this escape rate am I seeing right now?
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This is kill rates lmao. She has 57% kills.
You can get red ranks with other killers but you can be baby Nurse. So yeah she still had lowest rates but this does not mean she was weakest killer, never.
If BHVR share only high mmr stats, you will see she is performing so well.
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okay take light burn off that list. if you ever get a lightburn on a nurse is BECAUSE THEY LET YOU
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57% kills is still lowest across all killers, like, if it's a proof of "she is holding perks back", doesn't that mean they are balancing around perks for lowest kill rate killer, which... actually boosting perk strength?
Yeah baby nurses will skew the data, but if red rank baby nurse is STILL skewing the data just like any other statistics, what's the point of showing it, there is nothing new.
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nurse needs a complete rework. She’s unhealthy for the game. She makes it significantly harder to balance maps and perks. It’s up to the devs to think of how to rework her, not us.
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Exactly this.
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But then devs have no reason to balance her, because nothing is actually problematic in their eye.
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Why would they want her to be problematic?
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57% rates mean she has more kills than 2 lol. And this stats manipulated by baby Nurses ofcourse.
You can be baby Freddy but you will still move with 115% movement speed. So it will not affect you so much get kills even against Red Rank survivors. But if you are red rank Nurse and if you are not good enough, you will lose game against good survivors. But even with this Nurses, she is still destroying more than half of teams.
And yes, BHVR can not release strong perks and they need to make maps survivorside. Because if they won't, Nurse will destroy every team. Just look Midwich and Saloon. Both maps are small, easy for patrol and Nurse is destroying teams on this maps. And now we can not have small map anymore.
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I think WE want her to be problematic in this case? because otherwise there is no way to let dev work on her.
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She already IS problematic and I’m sure the devs know. Maybe they don’t know how to change her yet.
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So it shows anyone over 50% kill rates should be nerfed to hell, I guess?
Everything you are talking about there is pretty much applicable for any other statistics and ranks, it doesn't matter if it's red rank or not, it shows that there is less baby nurses in red ranks and STILL have lowest kill rates across all killers.
and what led you to believe nurse is the reason we can't have small maps? did they told us something like that?
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And where you got that idea? I suppose you know the source of the thought.
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I never said that. I never said nerf killer if they have +50% kill rates. I just said she is not bad performing. Good Nurses are absolutely destroying most of teams.
Nurse's fav maps: Midwich, Saloon and The Game. All of them small maps. So yeah, Nurse is reason we can not have small maps because she is almost broken on this maps.
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