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These forums are just filled with bad players or survivor mains
Doesn't matter if you want balance, highlight issues with either role it always end up being the same "killer main" "you just want easy games as killer" and its honestly kinds pathetic.
Just because I'm good at the game doesnt mean I dont deserve fun. And when I'm highlighting issues as a survivor you cant ignore them and focus on the killer part.
Why is everyone so against the game being fun for the weaker killers even at a higher mmr... all it ever seems to come to is survivor fun and power.
Stomping on low tier killers just because of strict mmr isnt fair for them, maybe I was born different. I will always encourage fun for everyone, encourage hooks and punish the unfun play styles.
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Are we looking at the same forum?
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In my experience most of the "bad" players are on the killer side like "SWF shouldn't exist it's cheating and it's bannable" or "No Mither is OP" or some ######### like that.
Not saying there aren't terrible survivor mains, but from my experience interacting it just feels like there's more on the killer side.
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From a philosophical standpoint is swf cheating, since it enables the survivors to see the killer at all times and you must be blind to see not their advantage.
That said, I don't see a reason to change anything on it. DBD is a multiplayer game and they are usually played by multiple people, so... That was to expect from everyone beforehand.
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I am killer main (75-80% i am playing killer). And i am seeing killer complaints more than survivors.
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same feels man
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Idk what you see, but all the forums posts are people complain about killer. The most popular posts are survivor mains talking about what killers do they hate playing against the most, everyday is a post about facecamp, tunnel, blight, nurse, literally any killer or perk that can pose a challenge is unfun to play against lol. Only killer post I seen is dead hard, and boons.
But we live in a age where people only see what they want to see, and only hear what they want to hear.
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I agree that low tier Killers but the problem is how you would go about inflating them? Smaller maps the number of times I have randomly spawned on Midwitch (only an example) and you hear the nurse and 1-3 other survivors simply D/C because nurse on such a small map is impossible to play against cause she is just to mobile. Any buff you give to a killer she will be able to run with it even more if its for all and not just the killer them self. I don't think there are that many bad players on here cause they either don't care about the game or have quit cause its to 'Hard'. I find I have became better at looping nurses who are not sweat players but still struggle with blight.
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Survivor mains. Have you just been reading Sluzzy's posts or something?
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I would assume so, if not please point me in the direction where players dont want mega strict mmr so survivor is nurse/blight or stomping on everyone just because they're a weaker killer
Tbf there are more killer issues, and there certainly is alot of killers that complain about stupid things but that's for both sides, the amount of times I see nerf BBQ when talking about nerfing DH or something is unreal lol
Probably due to mmr testing strict so theres been more complaints. I just dont get why people never get my reasoning. The mmr tests was even easier than the current one, I shouldn't be Escaping near every game and the killers getting so few hooks.
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But I shouldn't escape every killer so easily, and I certainly wont play if I verse so limited killers. They either leave mmr how it is, change the system completely or go through every single map and make sure its balanced.
I dont think it's a crime to want survivor games harder while still seeing the whole killer roster. Even if I get the odd weak teammates at least I can have fun versing all killers.
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He means to say twitter
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What I see are a vast majority of posts being about the same things, with more threads appearing daily for killer issues than survivor ones, and because of this more threads appearing for rubbish, nonsensical claims than survivor.
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These Forums are filled with "Us vs them" posters who like to flame bait, think that discussion means pissing contest and then unironically wonder why BHVR dosent take its community seriously.
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Nah just any topic discussing why strict mmr is bad from a high mmr point of view just gets back lashed.
Everyone assumes I want easy killer games when in reality I want more fun killer games (ones where all killers can get multiple hooks) and survivor to be harder and a wider mix of killers to verse. All these strict tests showed me is how boring survivor is when I have a team that can all play at my skill
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Sluzzy is a Nurse main and a better killer (and troll) than the vast majority of this forum.
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The thing is, I play more survivor. People just dont believe it because I want killers buffed or for the game to be harder as survivor (or balanced in a different way in general)
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I agree but there is the biggest problem how do you balance every map for the nurse who can skip the pallet or walls? The legion is laughably weak because even with the power to jump the pallet they still have to cross the pallet. I agree that honestly survivor matches can be laughably easy against some killers the higher the MMR the more likely you are to face Nurse and Blight and not much else. This also means that these survivors may have a problem with killers they haven't versed in a long time. I find that my SWF team dies more to the Hag then any other killer because though she feels like a weak killer she can completely shut down saves with her poxey teleport camping. Crouching only works well to get to them but if she is proxy camping which they almost always are its impossible to stay crouched and walk away. Honestly many killers just don't have enough gen pressure or anti-looping to be powerful in the meta.
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What? This forum is full of killer mains bitching over the dumbest things
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My us is better than your us
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The worst thing in this forum is the dead hard complains. I play killer too and I don’t have a problem with this perk. If you complain about it, you just expose yourself to be a bad killer, that’s it. Practicing helps.
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I'm just saying even with nurse and blight being so common in my games, having the strict mmr just made them more common and even they became weak. While I dont agree with the current mmr I'd rather this than nearly all the tests they tried.
I stopped playing this game for awhile and came back (a little while ago now) I'm currently sitting somewhere between 74-80odd% escape rate as a solo in my 240 odd games, And most of the losses was due to a DC or a completely miss matched game of teammates.
Imagine my escape rate if I get better team mates... just saying I wont play if I dont verse a mixture of killers
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Remember, “self unhooking OP”
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Yes. You made a thread asking for less strict MMR controls...because somehow that would make the matches more balanced. Other people came in to point out that this was bass ackwards. Including killer mains like myself.
Regarding the 'weaker killers/MMR' thing, if the system is working correctly those weaker killers will end up at a lower MMR, facing weaker survivors. Now that's not ideal, as it means high MMR play will be wall to wall Nurse, Blight and Huntress - but high MMR in most games tends to have a pretty ossified meta, as the best players will generally bring the best stuff. You can't fix this by making MMR looser - you have to either buff the weaker killers (better) or nerf the strongest killers (worse).
If you're stomping killers, it's not because MMR is strict - each killer on your roster has their own MMR - it's because the matchmaking system pooped itself.
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April Fools Day was three days ago.
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Atleast most killer posts have some logic, survivors just be making up hypothetical scenarios like just because a god nurse can hypothetically never miss a ability and able to slugged all 4 survivors in only 8 blinks doesn’t means every nurse is a flawless killing machine.
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...it would appear we are on about vastly different scenarios.
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No, I'm on about the tests (except day 1) being too strict and no fun.
And see just because it's an easy win you assume the killer was misplaced... when in reality most killers just lose when they verse a good bunch of survivors that can all loop and are gen efficient.
I'm asking for the MMR NOT to change, not to be made easier. At least in the current SBMM it's not as limited killers (still limited but some are mixed in) and killer while you still have to sweat to win at least its possible and not every game is filled with amazing loopers and gen efficient players.
Not asking for easier killer games, not even asking for mmr to be easier. Im asking for it not to get stricter (like the tests)
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Could be wrong but lol is this a response to a similar discussion that was created a few days ago about killers?
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Not that I'm aware lol, just I dont want mmr to become more strict than the base one we have now (ignoring all tests).
I just got 0 enjoyment from either role during those tests and if that becomes to new base I'm out. Only playing again (off the tests) have I realised how much better this is for both roles
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You're kidding right? While there is plenty of us vs them on here the amount of killer complaint threads absolutely dwarfs survivor ones. Not a day goes by without at least 2 or 3 nerf DH/DH is unfair threads. Same with CoH, maps, and gen speeds.
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Of course there are going to be more killer complaints if the killer experience is so bad. What do survivors have to complain about? Their escape rate has been 95% instead of their well deserved 100%? lol
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It wasn't a joke. Sluzzy's ingame account is known.
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Not gonna lie the only times I complain is me complaining about how dbd has several perks that are useless and that the meta is too close to being OP that trying to add something to it….just makes something OP instead of meta
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Tbf COH and DH does need a change, so does the game map...
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Actually my escape rate is only 74-80% jeez get it right 🙄😂
Well that's why I'm hoping the DH nerf comes soon, might be able to see more killers in time as DH isnt holding back basic M1 killers
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CoH is getting another nerf. DH is being looked at. The game would be a fair point. Maps in general need work. Mostly shrinking the massive ones.
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Now this makes sense! Thx
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I can't ever take posts like this seriously lmao there is no way someone can think the forums are filled with survivor mains, it is almost certainly just killer mains and the occasional person that actually plays both sides.
Also a fact of the matter is that weaker killers aren't just impossible to play at high mmr. They definitely have harder times and require more scummy play to do good, but people act like they only ever get 0 hooks lol.
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It needed a change, I would of done it differently but it was needed. DH is being looked at but that doesnt mean it will always get changed (though it should) and yeah the game is an awful map lol
But these are the complaints you listed as killer, they all seem pretty fair and reasonable to me
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So I cant say filled with survivor mains but you can say filled with killer mains? Kinda hurts your own point there youd be better off saying neither side is.
And the fact is games should be fun, and if you're actually against very good players then yeah its insanely difficult and you will struggle to get hooks.
Never said you wouldn't get any, just not very many nor will your game be fun. During the tests any killer that wasnt nurse or blight got about 4hooks... most killers was also nurse and blight.
Should read the post and not just the title
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Fun is subjective and also not an argument point. Also I didn't say you couldn't say the forum was filled with survivors, but I said from my own observations and even what polls have suggested, the forum is most definitely more killer players than anything lmao.
Sorry you aren't having fun with the game, I still most certainly do have fun though even after almost 5 years, and I main killers like Pinhead and Legion lmao It is just about perspective and what you can actually do as killer. The game is in its best spot ever in terms for game balance despite what people say. Sure, maybe you don't want to slug and camp in every game, that is a perfectly valid complaint. Until they change the entire game though to fit that, ie nerfing killer AND survivor by a drastic amount, you are gonna have to adapt and play better to do better lol
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Like I keep saying I want mmr to remain how it is and not get more strict (like alot of these tests)
That's all I'm saying, I too have played since its release and play all killers but my point is the stricter it gets the less fun there is as either side.
And if a games not fun I wont play it, but trying to explain that and people just assume you want easy killer games are people just avoiding any points I make otherwise
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if you don't care for MMR then don't play sweaty lol MMR didn't change that at all. I don't know why people think it has. There has always been sweaty people and there has always been people that play chill. If you don't want to play sweaty, then just don't. It is actually that simple. You cannot see MMR in any way whatsoever. If they never announced they were adding it, I doubt people would really notice. Just play how you want. If you want to win, then try winning and play sweaty, like every pvp game ever. If you just want to mess around or get points, play easy and how you want.
No invisible number should stop you. If it gets more strict, play how you want. If it gets looser, play how you want. If you want to win more, you are gonna have to be at least a little sweaty. That is just how games work lmao but if you want fun and to play easy, that option has literally never left but don't be surprised you aren't gonna 4k. The only way that idea COULD'VE left is if you actually just had more fun going against baby survivors and getting easy 4ks and now that you have to try it isn't fun.
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Those are the most common by far. There's just alot of nastiness on both sides. Killers to seem to be far more toxic on the forums. Of course that's just my observation. It's certainly not exclusive to one side.
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I "agree", I believe both mainers have a similar % of bad players I just find Killer mains to be way more vocal, bad Survivors mains seem to play, get massacred and go into the next game while bad Killers seem to play, get stomped, come to the forums, complain about wathever someone used and go into the next game.
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Basically abuse the system to verse weaker players and have fun?
I cant help it if I'm good at stuff, it's not sweating it's just a second nature to do things doesnt mean I shouldn't be able to have fun in my matches?
Just the fact you say I should play worse and not try to get more fun games just highlights the issues the games isnt balanced the higher you go in mmr.
If I have to fight against a system and play dumb so I can hope to get a fun match that's stupid... so I guess every survivor game I should just die so I get easier killers and see a range of them?
Seems like bullying to me to make sure I go against easier players (which everyone claims I want) when in reality I just dont want the MMR to get more strict. Not saying remove it, just not to make it more strict.
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I said nothing of the sort, I said to play how you like. If you don't want to camp or slug then don't. I didn't say to abuse the system and throw games. I can easily go for high hook games and only get like a 2k and still, MMR will raise. If you are good at the game, then that is fine but that has nothing to do with what I said lol I said you can still play however you have fun, and you still get your invisible number raised and you even get more points.
Technically, the game is balanced around 2k 2e and that is very possible with any killer playing casually. Now if you want the game balanced around 4k every match, that is still gonna take a lot of sweating to receive and that is not what the devs are going for. I'm literally not saying anything about what you want MMR to do, I'm saying the MMR system is bad and whether it gets more strict or not, it shouldn't affect how you play to have fun. However you have fun, you can still do it and that has never changed.
If you are just bored of the game, that isn't the game's fault, and if you aren't having fun then I'm sorry but I hope you either find something else to have fun with or take a break. I just don't understand the "game isn't fun" argument because that is entirely up to the player to decide lol
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As a killer main, it's very embarrassing to see so many killer mains on here with the small game perk IRL.
So much entitled whining, us vs them, and overall just small d energy.
"Delete DH" "Everyone who uses DH is bad" "COH users should be killed irl" "SWF is cheating"
Survivors do it too, but not as often on here cause **good lord**
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Flashlight are toxic
Looping is toxic
Running perks are toxic
Healing is toxic
Going for saves is toxic
Breaking totems is toxic
Trying to survive is toxic
Playing the game toxic
That's why
ImustI'm forced to camp survivors out starting at 5 gens😂0 -
I guess otz is bad then?
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