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To struggle or not to struggle
So when we have one of those rare cases, where the killer camps (with Insidious). Could we agree, as a community, to either struggle as much as possible or to sit tight and don´t move at all?
We need a consense here. So people don´t think "oh he´s struggling, so the killer is camping" when he´s not. While we also avoid "oh he´s not struggling, so the killer must be somewhere else", while he´s right in front of the hook.
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Years ago, the playerbase agreed to struggle, whenever the killer is nearby. But this seems to have changed. Now i see teammates struggle, when the killer is clearly chasing someone else around the map.
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If a killer is camping...with insidious...the survivor should look directly at the killer, if both the players are looking at eachother directly... both side give the bird to eachother until a save/survivor dies.
Yes I'm an iguana with Internet access...
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I use kindred, and it becomes really obvious if the killer has insidious or not since the survivors will just see their aura disappear when the killer isn't moving.
IMO insidious should be reworked into something that is useful outside of camping. I've had people tell me how insidious can be used for some 100000000 iq plays but lets be honest, I have not seen it used in that way, ever.
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Regardless of the consensus, I think the fact that survivors in solo queue have to pantomime unless they happen to have a perk says it all. It's been 6 years BHVR.
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There's never going to be a consensus unfortunately
Let's say for funsy it was declared right here and now that X equals camping and every single person on the forum agreed that X equals camping
The forum is what....MAYBE 2% of the entire playbase? And I think I might be generous in that assessment...
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A chat wheel would be nice. Since most people are against ingame voice chat, a chat wheel would be the closest thing that allowed for some basic communication.
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Well, just because you haven't, doesn't mean much. I have seen it and used it for plays.
Literally watched a YT video two days ago with a rank 1 Killer using it, not to camp, but to hide in fun places, sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt. Go on YT and watch "coconutRTS rank 1 strategy"
The irony here is, you watch competitive DBD and camping is not only expected, its used to actually beat teams like Oracle,... watch Mathiis beat Oracle with Bubba on YT,. He was the only killer in the comp to beat Oracle. And, he camped.
Only casuals complain about camping, real pvp players understand this is a PVP game and camping is a strat.
The best players in the game do it at the highest ranks and highest level of gameplay.
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I am a casual with more than 5 thousand hours, totally. That is also why I prefer to play with crossplay off on PC, because playing casually is wanting to go against sweaty nurses and blights. Totally.
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Translation: I cannot retort or debate what you just said, but I got 5k hours! Totally.
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Buy as much time for your teammate as you can. Even if they squander it.
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What I do is:
- I struggle a lot when the killer is camping/facecamping trying to say "don't come!";
- I struggle a tiny to barely raise the hands trying to say "come over here!" when I see a survivor is hesitant;
- I stand still if I have no information;
- I sometime kobe if I'm annoyed by survivors' bad decisions.
Voila.
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A chat wheel would be ideal. I don't want voice comms unless I'm with a pre-made group.
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When I first started playing I was told it was "the camp dance", but I don't see many people using it that way anymore. Most seem to struggle as a means of showing impatience
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I’m old school and a Killer main but back in the way back machine, when my friends actually played and liked DbD, and I was forced to play survivor (I enjoy it now), it was BEAT into my skull that you only squiggle and wiggle when the Killer is near and clear.
Now people just immediately kill themselves, in my shallow survivor experience the last week or so.
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