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Map RNG

JeanCharpentier
JeanCharpentier Member Posts: 370
edited April 2022 in General Discussions

How is it possible to still have such map spawn ?

I'm standing right in front of a window (with strong loop), other side you can see another window (strong loop again), behind this window, there is another pallet/window jungle gym.

Behind me there is a strong loop jungle gym.

Next to it there is a strong window/pallet jungle gym and then the shack.

6 years of DbD and there are still infinites, BHVR, i know you are the kind of person that removes cosmetics from ppl that disagree with you and that you easily ban ppl criticizing your work but how would you qualify your work on DbD ?

There are not many words to qualify it.

Here was the map layout around B main :

Explain me how a killer is supposed to catch a survivor with such a layout if you do not have an anti-loop killer ?

The windows and jungle gym spawn just created an infinite, reachable by all survivors from anywhere on the map.

You did a pretty good job so far.

Oh let me guess, you won't answer this thread anyway.

Comments

  • JeanCharpentier
    JeanCharpentier Member Posts: 370

    Ye okay, anything else to say or is it too much to ask to your grey matter ?

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 21,016

    This is a certified Skill Issue moment.

  • JeanCharpentier
    JeanCharpentier Member Posts: 370
    edited April 2022

    I won't talk about skill here cause i think your gaming palmares is around 0 while mine is better than most of the ppl here but i won't give you the detail but i used to be a pro gamer, so talking about skill, you should not talk about skill, really.

    But as every thread about how weak the killers are, you are here spitting your garbage comments without any argument, just to troll. I think you should stop to pollute some thread on this forum, especially when you have just posted this :

    So now plz, just avoid to answer on any thread i post, idc about your mind :)

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 21,016
    edited April 2022

    This is a certified Skill Issue moment.

    also its a meme :( neither me nor @ThatOneDemoPlayer were serious

  • JeanCharpentier
    JeanCharpentier Member Posts: 370

    Just play Billy guys, tier B killer, not too strong,not too weak with average mobility/power.

    Playing this killer will just show you how broken the game is, you will be able to see all the flaws from DbD, especially map design.

    At a good level of skill you will see that you cannot do anything in many occasion, it's not about skill, there will be many situations where you won't be able to use your power and you won't be able to mindgame. You are forced to push the pallet drop.

    When there are 15 pallets on the map, it's more than enough for the survivors to do 8 gens, really.

    The map layout i posted is just impossible to play on with Billy. Spamming windows is enough for the survivor to never go down, it was literally an infinite impossible to deal with.

    I invite everyone to try and play Billy till they reach a MMR high enough to see they cannot do anything anymore.

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 21,016

    I mained Legion for like a year.

    He's literally the worst Killer (soon, he will not be and I rejoice). The game isn't as beoken as you think.


    You will OCCASIONALLY run into a god squad. Very rarely does this happen. Every other match is winnable with the vast majority of Killers I've found.

  • Sepex
    Sepex Member Posts: 1,451

    KiCk tHE bReAkAbLe WaLls.

  • Xyvielia
    Xyvielia Member Posts: 2,418

    I mean, it’s a church... how bad could it be🤓

  • JeanCharpentier
    JeanCharpentier Member Posts: 370

    Did, on both sides, still loops were too strong with some tiles preventing me to take the shortcut.

    Everything was too close, pallets from window to second window to jungle gym. But it happens a lot that some map layout creates infinites impossible to deal with with some killers.

  • KingFieldShipper
    KingFieldShipper Member Posts: 612

    You are playing the hardest killer in the game to master. His chainsaw is literally the hardest power in the game to play. It takes a REALLY long time to use properly. Like, hundreds of hundreds hours. I rate him solid mid-A tier IF you actually master his power. If you're bad at billy and his saw and curving and looping with it, well, yeah it's gonna be rough.

    You blocked out your first addon for whatever reason but you are using junkyard airfilter, which is complete garbage. It's not even good for people learning billy. He has a few different playstyles but the strongest are lopro chains + speed or double speed. His speed addons are engravings and using those you are able to curve more tightly and quicker at loops ie shack to down. Lopro and speed of course let's you do a second curve at pallets to get some crazy ass hits. I'd argue most players don't see enough billy players, let alone double engravings billy's and it has really specific counterplay that most people just.. straight up don't know. You can do some meme-y builds with other addons (double boots is fun on like, coldwind maps) and do alright but if you are playing to win and not dick around with the saw either one of those combos are strongly advised.

    I really hate to meme but billy is a killer that requires good looping knowledge and mindgaming with his saw with no true anti loop basekit I mean, sorta is a skill issue. That isn't a jab, it's just fact, being a good billy requires a lot of skill that just comes with time and learning from your mistakes playing him and what you can curve and what and where you can get a hit at. There are some bullshit collision zones like twigs on trees but ya.

    Take a look at gtVel's stream sometime, he's my favorite billy player and knows him inside and out and it will prove to you what billy is capable of to even high skill survivors. He's super helpful and always down to give people tips and advice. Sofareks also has a pretty solid video guide too. That being said I personally would have liked to to see video of your gameplay from this match. I don't want you, or anyone, to give up on billy, he's straight up one of the most fun killers to play and I want more people to play billy. And I want to see more billy's when I play survivor too.

  • JeanCharpentier
    JeanCharpentier Member Posts: 370

    I'm not learning Billy lol. No one is playing Billy anymore since the nerf as the chainsaw charge timing is garbage to the point it is calculate (with the slow down walk speed during charge) to make it impossible to use in most loops.

    Have not face a single good Billy for 2 years now.

    Sry but this is a game design flaw. If you play dirty though (proxy camp/tunnel), you can win but if you want to play chases, you cannot do anything, especially on maps where windows can be spammed.

  • JeanCharpentier
    JeanCharpentier Member Posts: 370
    edited April 2022

    Anyway looking now some gtVel's videos, he is impressive but he often has a hard time despite being a Billy top player.

    Thank you for giving me his name, did not know him :)

    Was funny, first clip i see he has said : "who are the devs that coded this to have 2 LT in a raw, i want their names" 😂

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