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Thinking about changing to a toxic killer playstyle permanently
*Removed original post as I'm angry with myself for feeding into it*
Posted this a while ago after a huge series of absolutely terrible killer matches that were no fun in the slightest and vented my frustration
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ok
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You do you I guess although you'll eventually inflate your mmr doing that and get people who won't fall for basement camping
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Doesn't always have to net all 4 kills. As long as I get someone I technically still did better then the games I keep getting. And MMR doesn't seem to work anyway so the concern there isn't that big
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I think the issue is your "nice guy" attitude. You seem to think that the survivors owe you for you playing "nice" when in reality they don't. It's your choice to play that way. If you want play toxic then just do it. These posts always give me the impression of that one guy who buys the girl all these gifts and then gets mad when she doesn't want to lay him. If you want to be "nice" you do it out of the kindness in your heart and not because you expect something. You're just setting yourself up for disappointment.
Sure the survivors should at least have the decency to say "Wow this guy didn't tunnel anyone out of the game and still got 9 hooks, maybe I shouldn't act like an ass an tbag at the gate." Yeah they're #########, but it's not like they forced you to play that way.
Just do you bruh.
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It has nothing to do with being nice. It is just the way that I'm used to playing and what has worked for me. But obviously it isn't working anymore so I changed it up. I don't believe that anyone owes me for playing the way I play, but I'm also sick of having game after game of getting every build snuffed out while people sit there smug at the end game
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I mean I win plenty of games without playing toxic....I just choose to do it anyways half the time
Basement Bubba is unfortunately not even the meta, just pure facecamp bubba with 4x slowdown perks or nemesis rancor is way better
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I'll have to keep that in mind
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Learn from the best imo
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If that really is true, then just continue doing what works for you and what you feel like. To me it seemed like another "No more Mr. Nice Killer post."
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Will Do!
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I don't think this is a fair example at all.
In the "nice guy" example you painted that dude has not been conditioned for years to only play a certain way, lest he be supremely bullied by the other side for not playing by their rules.
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If you let people on the internet dictate how you play a video game then that still sounds like a you problem.
Not saying you specifically, but just in general.
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That does not mean it does not happen. Saying you can ignore the community does not mean this is not how the community is ingrained.
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Even so there's plenty of measures you can take to help you ignore the community if their opinions influence you so much. Disabling endgame chat is one. It really shouldn't be that much of an issue though. If you let it get to a point where you aren't even playing the way you want because others' opinions influence you so much then why play?
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Just because you can ignore a community does not help if you want to be a part of it. It probably hurts a lot of people that they want to engage with others, but then get called a ton of slurs because they had the audacity to hook the same Survivor twice and break a "rule".
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Well yeah that's a different issue. It's not like I was defending that type of behavior.
In cases like posts similar to these, the op often makes it clear that they're going to change playstyles because they weren't getting the praise they feel like they deserve for playing "nice." That's fine, but then they try to use it as ammo by ranting about how they're going to be more mean to punish all survivor players as if it was never an option in the first place and as if the survivors were literally forcing them to play that way. My point is if you have the ability to play how you want and know that you can then just do it. No need to let others make you think you can't. The op here themselves already stated that they would and it had nothing to do with being nice.
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In other words:
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Lmao
Yeah pretty much.
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ok.
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I look at it this way, if the devs wanted you to play fairly, they'd have balanced the game so that those ideals of not camping or tunneling work in your favor. But since they don't. Just consider it the devs way of saying that you need to do exactly that.
So if anyone complains about your camping, tunneling, unfair play, etc etc. Just say, "Devs made me do it". Problem solved.
Don't let people guilt trip you over it. Cause at this point, its the best way to play.
As a pig main my kit is set up where I would actually benefit from the survivor rule set. But honestly....######### em. Do what you wanna do.
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Play however the heck you want.
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Bubba's too much fun to stay in one place too long.
may i suggest one very rare demogorgon? you can harass gens, defend totems as well as down survivors while effectively "face" camping the basement through either sheer intuition or through his leprose lichen. STBFL and Agitation is what I use on Demo and it work wonders if you need to get your hands dirty.
It just makes total sense to hook people in your web of portals, so Agitation and STBFL put in a ton of work.
Why sit in the basement and twiddle your thumbs with Insidious when you could walk upstairs and teleport back into the basement to read every aura?
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Yes. No more Mr. Nice Killer. Unleash the power of the dark side. Merciless Killer awaits...
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I've started playing bubba and facecamp recently, no more stress, just a lot of salt at endgame but who cares, you got downed one time and you are dead, not dealing with second chances and comms anymore
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In the current meta, unless you’re using a high tier killer, you pretty much have to play like a jerk. I typically will tunnel one person out of the game and make it a 3v1.
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Why launch the game if you're not even playing it? Genuine question
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I'm playing at the beginning to catch up the survivor, then is up to them to throw the game or genrush and leave.
I'm just burned out from this stale meta of second chances that i feel the need to do it.
You shouldn't blame me but the devs instead for having the same meta for years and the same boring playstyle you can possibly have
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Staying still is not playing the game.
And yes I do blame you. Because the only people who get penalized by campers are solo players, not SWF, and you do make that decision yourself.
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ah, let it flow through you.
yeeeessss.
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Only people who get affected by basement Bubba are solo players. SWF with an IQ above 1 digit will just rush gens.
So you get tired of being outplayed by SWF, and you think the solution is to punish solos, making them want to only play SWF next time.
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I don't know how many hours you have played killer, but after sacrificing thousands of survivors the real joy is to be found in the chase and being able to break a team's plan. Being toxic does not yield many blood points so I avoid that playstyle.
Daily and Rift challenges give me a reason to play so I focus on that.
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In my games none is playing "solo"
Is 99% of the times swfs and honestly I'm fine with one kill playing this way than playing the game getting frustrated by 4 ds dh ub and boons. I'll get a kill anyway later on because gens are done and I've no other option than facecamp.
Even tho for you I'm not playing the game, I'm good at doing it, survivors do not care about my fun anyway
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I stopped reading when you said you never go against solo players, and just gonna assume everything you stated afterwards is also just lies after lies.
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Up to you what to think and believe, I'll keep doing what i do because for me is the only way to have fun as killer nowdays
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You might get a disproportionate amount of SWF's, but 99%? I assume exaggeration. I also assume that you're assuming many times, and probably got outplayed by solos more often than you'd want to admit. You can't tell if other platforms are swf'ing or not, and loads of people prevent others from seeing their friends list.
I'm going to say duo's with two solos barely change anything to a full solo. The current matchmaking system just puts you with other solos that match your skill, which means less silly and thus might look more coordinated.
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Just play however you want. If the way you play is suboptimal strategically your MMR will go down on its own on average and you’ll face survivors who are a better match for that playstyle.
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This one.
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Camp and tunnel, be as toxic as you can.
Devs have kind of promoted toxicity, unfortunately.
By the time you hook the first survivor, 2 to 3 gens are done. What can you do beside camping/tunneling ?
Moreover, the SBMM is so broken that even if you go down in MMR, the system will still give you higher MMR opponents to fill the queue and avoid 2 hours queue times for them.
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If you let your frustrations make you toxic, what you're essentially doing is punishing people who did nothing wrong for what someone else did.
I agree that this game can be bloody frustrating at times, but you have to get beyond it. Because once you go toxic, you start hating the game. And then it stops being fun.
Your best bet - keep playing, don't sweat a few losses. Your MMR will stabilize at a lower bracket eventually and you'll have a lot more fun.
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Yep - play the game the way you want to play. Survivor players will always play the most optimal way possible and leverage every advantage they have in a match (coordinating on comms, god pallets, multiple strong loops next to each other, etc.). That’s the way I always play as survivor. Killers shouldn’t feel bad at all for playing any way they want. The devs have balanced this game in a way that requires killers to opportunistically camp and tunnel to secure kills against coordinated SWF teams. It’s the best way to snowball pressure against these teams. If you go for individual chases you’ll have all 5 gens done with maybe a few hooks at most. If you don’t camp the last survivor that gets hooked when all gens are done then they’ll get rescued and all 4 survivors wait at the gate for the whole EGC so they can t-bag you for being a “trash killer”.
Certainly not all matches are like this. When I go against solos or two-man SWF groups I actually feel like it’s a level playing field and have fun most of the time. Survivors have to take more risks not knowing whether they’re wasting time or making the optimal play. The biggest problem for killers in this game is the advantage that 4-man SWF teams have being able to coordinate and never waste any time in a match. The devs have refused to balance around this and the result is a community of frustrated killer players who have to play every match in a way that survivors find “unfun”.
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More often than not, SWF teams literally cause/encourage camping.
Over the past couple of days playing BUbba I have had numerous recorded matches with survivors literally hanging out like on the second level of Ormond, looking at me telling me "come" with emote 2 key while I have one on hook on ground level.
Ummm, I am not going anywhere, just gonna sit here and stare at you until she hits second stage.
SWF camp the hooks then get upset when you dont leave hahah
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That happens with me all the time. If I’m playing Bubba and I can tell the team is a coordinated SWF I’ll just sit there near the hook while one or sometimes all three come over and wave at me to chase them for a while. It’s a great way to keep them off gens!
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And they oddly think this is how we want to play. I was ready to run off but since all 3 of you are here, lets party!
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Yeah, this always gets me chuckling.
I don't camp outside of EOGC, but if you're around I'm going to chase you and complaining at me in postgame gives me the happy pants. Just because I'm not a camper doesn't mean I'm just going to give you free unhooks.
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Facecamping is the killer equivalent of that one survivor who stands up on a ledge and does absolutely nothing but flash light click you all game because they have boil over.
I.e both players bring absolutely nothing to the game, except disappointment to the other 4 people in the match.
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DO IT YOU WON'T
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theres always something unsettling to me about people in pvp games that admit to playing in a negative way and 'enjoy the salt' from their opponents. Not somebody i'd want to run into out and about irl.
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this
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You could also just try to get actually better at the game, but crying on the forum is easier I suppose.
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They are still playing the game it’s just not in the way you want them too. Frankly their mindset is less toxic than yours.
Seriously stop telling others how to play just because you get pissy and think it’s wrong when they don’t do it the way you think is right. That kind of mindset is part of the problem.
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