Visit the Kill Switch Master List for more information on these and other current known issues: https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/kb/articles/299-kill-switch-master-list
We encourage you to be as honest as possible in letting us know how you feel about the game. The information and answers provided are anonymous, not shared with any third-party, and will not be used for purposes other than survey analysis.
Access the survey HERE!
Do you consider finishing a gen in a killers face "toxic"?
I Just got toxic for finishing a gen IN front of a artist face.
I Knew she had pop because I saw it before.
She still won.
I asked "Why BM" and that was her response "Did a gen in my face"
Do you guys consider this toxic?
Edit: The Bm was letting me bleed out on ground while constantly shaking head and slashing the air
Comments
-
If its close,... I committ even if I am going down. Don't know why, but I do.
25 -
Nah.
I consider it cocky, and sometimes kinda annoying, but it's not toxic. People just assume that anything which irritates them in the moment must be toxic, instead of just being kinda irritating and nothing more.
52 -
No. It's completely your objective
18 -
As a killer main...no.
It's commitment
20 -
Entitled killer player? You didn’t follow the killers rule book? BM.
(:
17 -
Couldn't have said it better
0 -
No it's not toxic.
2 -
Why would that be toxic?
1 -
I think you misunderstood them, I think they are referring to the reason they had to 'BM', not that its actually deserved morally.
Bad manners don't exist in Dead by Daylight during a game, except a refusal to play the game.
Tunneling/Camping etc while unpleasant, is not bad manners, its a part of the game.
0 -
Not at all.
As killer I might get frustrated that I wasn’t able to stop it or didn’t get to use Pop, but by no means is it toxic or bming.
2 -
I disagree, BM within a match absolutely exists, for both sides. Facecamping + repeatedly hitting on hook is BM, and hanging around in the exit gates long after anyone else is left in the trial just to teabag is BM.
Neither of them are huge deals, but they're still bad manners. Something to roll your eyes at and move on.
13 -
I don't understand it either, survivors do it all the time in front of my face, I find it fine because it's their objective. But my friend find it toxic cos there is no respect. He streams it on discord and I watch it at times.
My friend is pretty much a whiner who whines at every survivor loops they do, gen getting rushed, hex getting found, flashlight save, pretty much any killer mains are complaining (I do agree with some of their points though). I distinctly remember a few games where survivor complete gen right in front of his face and he said " Wow no respect huh" Another one where he was carrying a survivor to a hook, another survivor was doing the gen behind him, "Wow no respect" YES he said same thing again. He often grunts while playing the game just like the killer grunt when he get stunned 🤣 Guess thats what happens to people when toxic/cocky survivors get to you.
It's just player's mentality or grudge when they get ######### happens previously and tend to bring it to the next game. I'm not just saying killer, there are survivors too.
2 -
It's not toxic, but it also isn't fair imo
0 -
Of course not. It is a surv doing their objective, I do it sometimes too if it needs to be done.
Do I maybe not spare said person throughout the rest of the match, the answer is yes. But that is not toxic as well.
1 -
Is finishing a gen so they cant get pop off really a cause for bm
0 -
Same I considered it cocky too but I would do it too.
0 -
Well seeing how my teammates got grabbed off gens a total of 4 times that game (no undetectable perks) it was her win either way.
1 -
Well, if they think you dangerous for their chances to win, maybe. Ask them not me-
0 -
It depends. For example, if the gen was 99% and you weren't actively working on it when she showed up, then tapped it to complete it once she did, that's pretty toxic. But if you were working on it the entire time and then she showed up right as it finished...not your fault.
1 -
That is not toxic at all.
1 -
Being a dick IS being toxic.
1 -
Bm'ing is toxic. Insulting someone in chat etc. is toxic.
I don't see how finishing nearly finished gen before killer can pop it is toxic.
0 -
nah its not
0 -
Uh, and what do you think BM stands for? Taunting falls under that you know.
Why would you stand next to a 99% gen and wait for the killer to show up before finishing it in their face? Archive challenges for finishing are terror radius, not Killer being on top of the gen. Killer shows up, then you tap the gen to finish it?
Intent matters, and when you make it clear with your actions that you COULD have gotten it done earlier and chose not to, yes that's toxic to people who actually have a sense of ethics.
2 -
I was actively working on it.
1 -
Running early is toxic. Staying on the gen is toxic. Not cooperating with your opponent to ensure your defeat is toxic too.
Welcome to DbD.
3 -
Bm is flashlight clicking, teabagging etc. if the intent is to insult someone.
If the person finished a gen and tbagged, tbagg would be considered bm not the act of finishing the gen. You don't know why would someone finish a gen that they left at 99%. It really isn't toxic, stop calling everything toxic.
3 -
Yeah, so I wouldn't consider your situation being toxic.
Thank you for showing you have no intention of understanding what I am saying.
OP gets what I am saying and that's what matters.
1 -
There are several reasons I can think of for someone doing this. Mouse/Controller dying. Making sure the killer commits to coming to that gen to waste their time. They could be streaming with challenges from their chat.
They could be doing it to annoy the killer. With no proof though you shouldn't just assume they're being toxic.
1 -
It is certainly annoying. You are basically telling you don't fear the killer though, so he may put that to the test.
edit: as it seems people use toxic for virtually anything: annoying isn't toxic in my book.
Post edited by drsoontm on0 -
When you are mad kid everything is toxic xd
4 -
Nah. Its just ballsy af. And also stems from the fact if your full health and going against an m1 killer that isnt spirit nurse or blight, youre in no real danger until youre injuried.
2 -
It was an Artist. a good one 2.
0 -
This is going to sound rude. Im not trying to be rude.
But so what? Doesnt matter. You did your obj. That isnt toxic. You could of ran off instead you committed and got the gen done. And she raged at you for it.
4 -
No that's not toxic I have that happen to me all the time and it's never toxic. You're doing your objective and you committed to a gen when it was super close to being done even with danger being close by.
1 -
Maybe if the survivor is just standing there, waiting for the killer to get close and tap it last second, but merely committing is perfectly fine if annoying, they are trading a health state for a gen, might very well be worth it.
5 -
I understand perfectly what you meant, the only difference is that I disagree with your definition of toxic.
0 -
So? I could suddenly have a stuck CTRL key that forces it to trigger multiple times when I press it because I wanted to crouch. Or maybe I'm a streamer and I have a challenge to Tbag the killer every time someone spends a particular amount of points. I'd still be Tbagging. You're going away from in-game reasons on why it would be happening into external reasons on why something could have happened. If you want to extend into that, anything is excusable.
1 -
I think it’s similar to tunnelling; in that you’re completing the objective in the most efficient way, but is ‘disrespectful’ to the opposing player.
Neither are toxic but are frustrating to be on the receiving end of; and neither tunnelling or gen ‘tunnelling’ have much incentive to not do gameplay wise.
0 -
Is camping someone to death to secure a kill toxic?
...Wait, don't answer that...
No but for real, it's not toxic inherently. It can actually be a smart play if you know what you're doing (Killer has pop, you force them to come all the way to your gen and then you finish it - wasting their time)
1 -
No way is that toxic. Some people are such snowflakes seems anything that irks them in the slightest is considered toxic.
2 -
no, i often do it out of desperation to increase the team's chance of survival, not to go "geegee ez baby green killur, me do gen in ur face"
some people get frustrated when things don't go in their favor and then start taking everything as some sort of intended action to frustrate them, i had a legion smack me on hook twice, because i unhooked a survivor during EGC but meanwhile i was more concerned about pulling my weight because i spent a decent chunck of the match being deadweight.
3 -
nope it's not if the gen is almost complete when you are approaching me I'm committing to it
2 -
I see that as cocky or overconfident if they go down before they can pop the gen otherwise I just play as normal.
0 -
Ppl consider everything toxic these days. I was called out to be toxic cuz I used bamboozle on Legion or I zoned a survivor into a zombie as Nemesis.
But ye no I dont see it as toxic at all, I personally love to use blast mine and pop a 99% after a killer has been stunned, best feeling in the world.
1 -
I remember a year or two ago people were really adamant this is toxic. Personally I never could see why people thought it was toxic.
It's just a smart strategy. Similar to camping someone on 2nd stage, it isn't toxic.
4 -
No. Often when I see it, I even have to laugh and think "Ok, you little rat, you now earned an extra sweet chase". :D
I'm not upset about it. Of course they won't let me kick the gen in peace with pop and lose 25% progress on a nearly finished gen.
When the gen is almost done, it's a risky but worthwhile gamble if it works.
1 -
Its doing the objective surely? I experience it a lot and its annoying, but if a gen is like 97%, why wouldn't you finish it ....
1 -
Absolutely not. I usually get a free hit from this kind of behaviour, so I'm certainly not complaining.
I just take it as a sign that they must be very committed to completing thier objective (usually to the point of getting hooked soon after). I respect that dedication and continue with the match as normal.
But if you teabag/clicky-click after doing a gen in my face? That respect for you has vanished, I'm afraid.
Other than that, it's fine. 👍
1 -
Well of course I got downed for it, but I did the 3 gens that where done.
1
