I have to talk about something ....
I just had a match as a survivor where the killer got a 4K but was incredibly toxic to me when I was the last survivor on the hook. He face camped me, repeatly shaked his head, then hit me serveral times on hook.
I absolutely didn't do anything in the match that was toxic.
When I confronted them about it in post game chat they said "Yeah, sorry, I'm used to toxic survivors, I'm frustrated"
Sorry, but exactly this behavior and this way of thinking on both sides makes this toxicity in the community worse and worse.
Me, the solo survivor who does nothing toxic and plays normally, have no fault if my killer had a bully squad in the last match. I haven't done anything, why am I being used to relieve the frustration of the last match?
Vice versa. The current killer is not guilty, if survivors had an extremely toxic killer in the last match, why punish them for it?
It often ends up being that the person who was treated unfairly because the opponent unfairly took out his frustration on this person, then in the next match is toxic themselfes because frustrated by the last experience.
This only makes this community worse.
So, during our post game chat conversation, the killer player apologized to me, which was fine for me then. I hope that person got at least a little bit to think about it.
If you're so incredibly frustrated from your last match, why not take a break before going into the next match?
Leave the room, go outside for 10 minutes and breathe deeply,listen to music you like, smoke a cigarette or eat and drink something and then continue playing when you've calmed down.
But please don't take your frustration out on the next opponents, who are not to blame for your experiences with the opponents before them.
It´s just not right , feels bad and is bad for the community overall.
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I don’t see the problem. You were the last hook? So you were automatically being sacrificed? And the killer was celebrating with a few actions like nodding? And the killer said he hadn’t been winning so that made celebration more likely?
Therefore that killer is toxic? Not in my book bud.
Want my opinion on this scenario? I think OP was a person in a losing situation trying to find a moral victory. Yeah, the survivor got sacrificed, but the killer was a meanie. Which clears the survivors losing ego from reality. Cause ‘they’ were mean in the last seconds of ‘my’ losing trial.
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Reading and understanding is art.
The player himself ADMITTED to taking his frustration out on me for opponents in another match.
He wanted to BM me.
I don't care if I escape or not, I just want BP. And repeatly hitting on hook is toxic, it´s jsust unnessecary m and he admitted it.
But maybe I'm not 14 anymore, and I've learned empathy in the course of my life and just can't understand such actions because I find it completely immature and don't think it's good for the community.
And by the way... I was speaking from both sides. ;)
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“Reading and understanding is art.”
I would even say that the killer was extremely nice to you in the EGC by just accepting your opinion. “Yeah, I was just frustrated.” Placating from my POV.
If killers could do a tiktok dance, I guarantee you many of them would press that button on last hook. They don’t though, so nodders instead.
Maybe you should turn your empathy super powers towards the opponent you face and let them have their moment.
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Even if there were a message on loading screen reminding people "you shouldn't let your frustration out after a rough game against people that did nothing", people will continue doing so. Humans are like that. Can't change the world!
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if you are the last survivor on the hook, you aren't being 'face camped'...you're the last survivor.
He did not do anything to you to make your experience worse. You are going to die. You are the last survivor on the hook, the match will end momentarily.
The killer was strong enough to apologize AND admit their frustration. You on the other hand are still upset to the point where you made a forum post about how your 10 second hook period in which a killer was venting on a fictional characters soon to be sacrificed body. That is entirely on you.
You weren't left to bleed out, the killer didn't continuously let you go and down you until Endgame skewered you. You werent bodyblocked in a corner until an extensive amount of time passed. These aren't the times where you can animation cancel mori's. You were just sacrificed...point blank.
Perhaps you need to play more killer and understand that in no period of the match is the killer granted relief, there is no stress free gen period, stress free locker period, stress free totem period, etc. etc. The end of the match is the only time in which a killer can de-compress. If that happens to be on you when you're on the hook and going to die anyways, so be it!
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You're welcome to be the better person, and I wish more people would. But here's the unfortunate truth (with this game and community especially):
Nobody is incentivized in any way to break the cycle of toxicity
Simply put, there is absolutely zero reason for any one person to be the better person when confronted with toxicity in this game. There is the nebulous impact of not making it even worse that you could have, sure. But that only has theoretical impact on any future matches you will experience. However there is no punishment for BMing (its even passively encouraged) nor is there any type of rep system, no grade reset rewards for not being an insufferable jerk, You aren't temporarily put in a queue with other non-asshats, nothing.
I'm not toxic to other players because I see no personal reason to be. If i see someone being toxic I usually assume they're either letting out aggression that toxic players put on them, or they're just a toxic person who would act that way regardless. Until the game is structured around it or even at the very least the devs address it as more than "just smack talk," its always going to be a thing.
People are having seizures from flashlight macros yet they're still in the game, mostly unchanged except that one time they were able to force crash people's games. Macros aren't even allowed via the ToS, yet they refuse to address the favorite bully tool in the game despite it having a direct impact on some players' health. The only way to get rid of toxicity in this game would be to nuke it from orbit, and BHVR is just fine with that.
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The main objectives on both sides is to treat the other side like #########.
It's something that will never change there is no sportsmanship in this game all you can do is move on to the next match.
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I swear, this is indicative of the coming generation. Waaaa. Meany. Jesus. Get a spine. I punch all round me when I got a 4K. I'm not doing it to hurt your snowflake feelings.
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Nailed it. 10/10, no notes needed
BHVR has stated time and time again that so much of the toxicity in this game is perfectly fine. I don't get why BHVR would want to encourage jerks to be jerks but hey, if the game hemorrhaging players because they're sick of being punching bags for their frustrated opponents is fine with them, then I guess it's their call ultimately. It's not my game so not much I can do about it except not be a jerk to people.
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"The coming generation"? C'mon dude no one older than 15 would write a comment like that
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Only on this website would your post be a controversial take to be dissected with semantics by others.
It's especially hilarious given the amount of killer mains on here that cry about bully squads and "their fun being ruined", yet you - making a similar claim - get told to not take the game so seriously.
Irony (and complete lack of self-awareness) at it's best.
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No, the problem here is the definition of toxicity. What OP described was not it. They took it bad a killer kept M1ing them after they got a 4K. Their "argument" was that it was intentional on the killers part therefore their feelings SHOULD be hurt and we should rally behind the little wimp. Gimme a God damn break.
Written by a Gen Xer who missed the cut off by 2 months. Seriously grow up people. It's ######### ######### ######### at this and anything else.
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