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Can The Entity Create Life?

Chordyceps
Chordyceps Member Posts: 1,713

So we know all about the entity's tendency to kidnap, or make deals with people/creatures from other realms to have them do it's bidding. We also know that The Entity has the power to revive people, as seen when The Entity revives Victor.

I'm wondering how far The Entity's life giving powers go. It can restore life to dead beings, but can it create life from nothing? Or can it perhaps combine multiple life forms to create a new one?

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  • HexDaddyissues
    HexDaddyissues Member Posts: 328

    youre onto something here....


    i like where this is going

  • Brokenbones
    Brokenbones Member Posts: 5,169
    edited May 2022

    Are the crows techincally alive? They might be servants of the entity, but they also ignore survivors using calm spirit - the flavour text saying the animals are 'calm and trusting' in your presence. They also vanish when they fly away

    What about the crows in the Eyrie of Crows map?

    Or hell if you want to go even deeper, what about all the different plant life and fauna in the Entity's realms?

    So many questions 🤔

  • IlliterateGenocide
    IlliterateGenocide Member Posts: 6,028

    I mean. Depends if the tress, grass, crows, rats, cockroaches, ect are alive in the trials.

  • Chordyceps
    Chordyceps Member Posts: 1,713

    I wasn't really thinking about plants and insects and such when making this post, but they probably count as created life if they are.

    I was more thinking sentient life.

  • IlliterateGenocide
    IlliterateGenocide Member Posts: 6,028

    Life Humans? The entity Probably cant. Though maybe it can make something. close to humans.

    Also are Nemmy Zombies Taken From (RE)Earth With nemmy or do you think they where created by entity

  • Chordyceps
    Chordyceps Member Posts: 1,713

    The way the zombies rise from the ground makes me want to say they're created, but it's entirely possible the entity just quickly yoinked one from raccoon city and put it in the trials

  • Valik
    Valik Member Posts: 1,274

    From what I understand, the Entity is completely derivative.

    It is capable of constructing copies, duplicates. However, it is devoid of creative powers - or if it does, its propensity for creativity extends beyond our scope of realization.


    If the Entity could create life, it would simply create its own Killers and Survivors to feast on, an endless supply of unique and interesting individuals and tons of killers of original design - it would have no need to go through any effort to abduct and twist Terran creatures into its sway, nor would it have to construct complex facades of reality for its food to play within.


    The Entity can construct, but it cannot create.

    It can replicate, but not birth a new design from its own machinations.

  • Chordyceps
    Chordyceps Member Posts: 1,713

    iirc, the entity doesn't feed on life, it feeds on emotion. So hpyothetically, do you think it could create life, but that life would just be incapable of emotion, and thus the entity can't feed on it's own creations? Because if the entity understands the basic physiology of a human/creature, couldn't you call constructing something based on that creating life?

  • Valik
    Valik Member Posts: 1,274

    Emotions, do the Entity's extend, are just neurochemistry reactions.

    Survivors are an amalgamation of instinct and learned experiences.

    If The Entity had any creative bone in its chitinous body, it would be able to make new neurology to create the 'perfect' food that feels incredible emotions.

    However, we know that the Entity is both aware of the strength of emotions - and must capture prey to accomplish this end.


    For the Entity to have the power to create such intricate replicas down to the marrow, to know the fine details of exactly what it's looking for, and yet not have the power to create what it desires - it is indicative not of impotency, but of a lack of creative prowess.

  • Chordyceps
    Chordyceps Member Posts: 1,713

    It may not have the creative prowess itself, but it can feed off of the creative prowess of others. It used The Artist's creative prowess to construct The Eyrie of Crows. Perhaps in the same way it could tap into the creative potential or fears of someone that can envision a person or monster that would scare them, and create it. It could then feed off the emotions from a person seeing their fears manifested.

  • Valik
    Valik Member Posts: 1,274

    The Eyrie of Crows was extracted from her memory, it was not a creation of her own mind - as all locations in the game are.

    If this was the case, there would not be a need to abduct Killers. If the Entity could manufacture original creations from the creativity of others, it would need only to abduct survivors.

    Likewise, if it could manufacture the perfect prey to feast upon, it would only abduct ideal killers.

    The fact that it abducts both Killers and Survivors is proof enough that it is incapable of creating a new form of life, absent from outside influence.

    It can replicate emotional beings, but it cannot invent emotional beings.

    The Entity is incapable or originality or creativity, and it is evidently unable to create substantial figments to elicit emotion as well.


    To believe the Entity is capable of creating new life is to ignore its established and absolute dependance on outside sources to perpetuate its own existence.

  • Chordyceps
    Chordyceps Member Posts: 1,713

    If the Entity could create life, I think it would still have reason to abduct killers. If it abducts a killer, one capable of emotion, it could feed off the emotions of both the killer and the survivor being pursued by them. Like it would feed off The Spirit's rage, and a survivors fear of death.

    I think if it could custom tailor a being to torment a survivor, it would be like eating at a gourmet restuarant. The portions are smaller, but the food is better. The Entity gets to feast on a a very specific, intense emotion, but it gets less to eat because only one of the two is capable of emotion.

  • Valik
    Valik Member Posts: 1,274

    If this were true, we'd see at least one instance of it being employed. Or, at the very least, an inference to it.

    Because we have established that the Entity either cannot or will not create original constructs, we know that such situations lie outside the scope of the game's establishments.

  • Chordyceps
    Chordyceps Member Posts: 1,713

    Its entirely possible the devs just havent had the chance to show The Entity's ability to do so just yet. I feel like The Entity being able to revive Victor could be a tease towards other life-giving powers the entity could have.

  • Valik
    Valik Member Posts: 1,274

    Feel free to let your imagination run wild!

    Within the lore is very particular, but if you're just having fun with ideas outside of the Lore - it's an entertaining idea.

  • Dito175
    Dito175 Member Posts: 1,395

    Do they really count as living things though? From what I know everything inside the realm ,aside from survivors and killers, is the entity so wouldn't plants and animals just be an extension of itself?

  • Chordyceps
    Chordyceps Member Posts: 1,713
    edited May 2022

    Plants I imagine are an extension of the entity. I think the animal are actually living things though, especially the crows. I'm pretty sure I've seen them referred to as servants of the entity, which to me suggest a level of autonomy. There's also Maurice, who the entity gave a third eye.

  • Cybil
    Cybil Member Posts: 1,163

    Doesn't it say in the item description that the entity created the krampus and minotaur?

  • Chordyceps
    Chordyceps Member Posts: 1,713

    I just looked at it, and yeah, it actually does say the Minotaur was "created by the entity using the fears and memories of those within the fog". I didn't actually know that until just now. I guess that confirms that The Entity is capable of creating life.

    This revelation is making me really like the sound of The Dredge theories I've been hearing about for the anniversary chapter. If we got a unique killer made in a similar fashion instead of just a legendary skin, that'd be awesome.