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When will we get the promised Decisive Strike nerf/rework?

DocOctober
DocOctober Member Posts: 2,230
in Feedback and Suggestions

I know you guys are busy and everything, but seriously, how long does it take to nerf a Perk that should never have made it into the game in the first place? At this point, any concept rework, even if you weren't happy with it, would probably be better.

The nerf's been discussed since before the Curtain Call Chapter, meaning over half a year now. Get a move on, please.

Comments

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Ihatelife said:
    Maybe just wait? You already can prevent the DS by unnerving presence and enduring

    Nice to meet you again. I see what kind of guy you are :wink:

  • KingB
    KingB Member Posts: 747
    They would rather nerf/introduce more counterplay to BBQ.
  • Ihatelife
    Ihatelife Member Posts: 5,069

    @Master said:

    @Ihatelife said:
    Maybe just wait? You already can prevent the DS by unnerving presence and enduring

    Nice to meet you again. I see what kind of guy you are :wink:

    I am the patience guy of course.

  • Mr_Myers
    Mr_Myers Member Posts: 422

    They said theyr "weren't happy" with the last iteration. TBH I think they're buying time to make sure that Laurie doesn't have the worst teachables in the game. Problem is distortion outshines sole survivor and OoO just sucks. Decisive strike can die in a fire in my mind, but they gotta replace it with something decent at least. Then again people could buy Halloween for daddy Myers which works in my eyes too.

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    Before we get a nerf to DS, we get a big buff to BT... yay!^^

    rolleyes

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    I honestly don't believe we'll ever see it before we see Dead by Daylight 2.

    There's nothing they can do. Every idea they come up with gets cancelled. This nerf idea has been going on for ages and still nothing has been done, it's a carrot on a stick.

    I genuinely don't believe we'll ever get it. Not outside of a sequel anyway.
  • springday
    springday Member Posts: 6

    They won't

  • Killigma
    Killigma Member Posts: 372

    It is a lot easier to keep pushing a request back from patch to patch, rather than nerf a perk in which your majority player base use. If we have already waited two years for a nerf, the nerf for DS will come around the last part of DBD play cycle.

  • MojoTheFabulous
    MojoTheFabulous Member Posts: 2,015

    I feel like we're gonna reach a point in the game where they're like "with all the changes made to Survivors we don't feel like DS needs to change any longer" Just like how they left Self Care largely unchanged due to the general healing nerf.

  • Killigma
    Killigma Member Posts: 372

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Killigma said:
    It is a lot easier to keep pushing a request back from patch to patch, rather than nerf a perk in which your majority player base use. If we have already waited two years for a nerf, the nerf for DS will come around the last part of DBD play cycle.

    Really?
    So tell me why is it so easy to nerf BBQ?
    That's a perk the majority of KILLER is using, but it gets nerfed… again.
    And they do that without the blink of an eye.

    There is a bigger Survivor player base than Killer.

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @Killigma said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Killigma said:
    It is a lot easier to keep pushing a request back from patch to patch, rather than nerf a perk in which your majority player base use. If we have already waited two years for a nerf, the nerf for DS will come around the last part of DBD play cycle.

    Really?
    So tell me why is it so easy to nerf BBQ?
    That's a perk the majority of KILLER is using, but it gets nerfed… again.
    And they do that without the blink of an eye.

    There is a bigger Survivor player base than Killer.

    So it is ok, to cater the majority and ignore the needs of the minority, despite the game needs both to be played?

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    MojoTheFabulous said:

    I feel like we're gonna reach a point in the game where they're like "with all the changes made to Survivors we don't feel like DS needs to change any longer" Just like how they left Self Care largely unchanged due to the general healing nerf.

    Pretty much, even though its probably still the most unbalanced thing in the game.

    It's the differencr between getting your first hook with 5 gens remaining or getting your first hook with 3 gens remaining.

    It can completely cripple a killers momentum too.

    All that power based on a skillcheck...LOL.
  • Killigma
    Killigma Member Posts: 372

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Killigma said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Killigma said:
    It is a lot easier to keep pushing a request back from patch to patch, rather than nerf a perk in which your majority player base use. If we have already waited two years for a nerf, the nerf for DS will come around the last part of DBD play cycle.

    Really?
    So tell me why is it so easy to nerf BBQ?
    That's a perk the majority of KILLER is using, but it gets nerfed… again.
    And they do that without the blink of an eye.

    There is a bigger Survivor player base than Killer.

    So it is ok, to cater the majority and ignore the needs of the minority, despite the game needs both to be played?

    I personally do not believe so, and never stated that I did. As a Killer main, I feel the pain of this decision. Unfortunately my opinion means less than yours and BHVR thinks it is perfectly fine.

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @Killigma said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Killigma said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Killigma said:
    It is a lot easier to keep pushing a request back from patch to patch, rather than nerf a perk in which your majority player base use. If we have already waited two years for a nerf, the nerf for DS will come around the last part of DBD play cycle.

    Really?
    So tell me why is it so easy to nerf BBQ?
    That's a perk the majority of KILLER is using, but it gets nerfed… again.
    And they do that without the blink of an eye.

    There is a bigger Survivor player base than Killer.

    So it is ok, to cater the majority and ignore the needs of the minority, despite the game needs both to be played?

    I personally do not believe so, and never stated that I did. As a Killer main, I feel the pain of this decision. Unfortunately my opinion means less than yours and BHVR thinks it is perfectly fine.

    Which is still wrong and should be expressed as such.
    Maybe some day it will sink into their stubborn brains.

  • Killigma
    Killigma Member Posts: 372

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Killigma said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Killigma said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Killigma said:
    It is a lot easier to keep pushing a request back from patch to patch, rather than nerf a perk in which your majority player base use. If we have already waited two years for a nerf, the nerf for DS will come around the last part of DBD play cycle.

    Really?
    So tell me why is it so easy to nerf BBQ?
    That's a perk the majority of KILLER is using, but it gets nerfed… again.
    And they do that without the blink of an eye.

    There is a bigger Survivor player base than Killer.

    So it is ok, to cater the majority and ignore the needs of the minority, despite the game needs both to be played?

    I personally do not believe so, and never stated that I did. As a Killer main, I feel the pain of this decision. Unfortunately my opinion means less than yours and BHVR thinks it is perfectly fine.

    Which is still wrong and should be expressed as such.
    Maybe some day it will sink into their stubborn brains.

    Agreed it is wrong, it fuels the toxic behaviour between Killers and Survivors but despite that it is smart business, as much as I hate that term. It is a lot better for your business to listen to the majority than go against them.

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @Killigma said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Killigma said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Killigma said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Killigma said:
    It is a lot easier to keep pushing a request back from patch to patch, rather than nerf a perk in which your majority player base use. If we have already waited two years for a nerf, the nerf for DS will come around the last part of DBD play cycle.

    Really?
    So tell me why is it so easy to nerf BBQ?
    That's a perk the majority of KILLER is using, but it gets nerfed… again.
    And they do that without the blink of an eye.

    There is a bigger Survivor player base than Killer.

    So it is ok, to cater the majority and ignore the needs of the minority, despite the game needs both to be played?

    I personally do not believe so, and never stated that I did. As a Killer main, I feel the pain of this decision. Unfortunately my opinion means less than yours and BHVR thinks it is perfectly fine.

    Which is still wrong and should be expressed as such.
    Maybe some day it will sink into their stubborn brains.

    Agreed it is wrong, it fuels the toxic behaviour between Killers and Survivors but despite that it is smart business, as much as I hate that term. It is a lot better for your business to listen to the majority than go against them.

    It would also be a smart business to build a game that has a good reputation for being balanced and fun.

  • Killigma
    Killigma Member Posts: 372

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Killigma said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Killigma said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Killigma said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Killigma said:
    It is a lot easier to keep pushing a request back from patch to patch, rather than nerf a perk in which your majority player base use. If we have already waited two years for a nerf, the nerf for DS will come around the last part of DBD play cycle.

    Really?
    So tell me why is it so easy to nerf BBQ?
    That's a perk the majority of KILLER is using, but it gets nerfed… again.
    And they do that without the blink of an eye.

    There is a bigger Survivor player base than Killer.

    So it is ok, to cater the majority and ignore the needs of the minority, despite the game needs both to be played?

    I personally do not believe so, and never stated that I did. As a Killer main, I feel the pain of this decision. Unfortunately my opinion means less than yours and BHVR thinks it is perfectly fine.

    Which is still wrong and should be expressed as such.
    Maybe some day it will sink into their stubborn brains.

    Agreed it is wrong, it fuels the toxic behaviour between Killers and Survivors but despite that it is smart business, as much as I hate that term. It is a lot better for your business to listen to the majority than go against them.

    It would also be a smart business to build a game that has a good reputation for being balanced and fun.

    Very true sir, but we deal in band-aids here on a BHVR game, why fix it when you can just patch in more bullshit to make the old issues look not so bad. Example, BT looks a hella lot more OP now than DS cause of the coming patch.

  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    DocOctober said:

    @Ihatelife said:
    Maybe just wait? You already can prevent the DS by unnerving presence and enduring

    Troll comments aren't needed, thanks.

    He’s being serious.  
  • DocOctober
    DocOctober Member Posts: 2,230
    DarkWo1f997 said:
    DocOctober said:

    @Ihatelife said:
    Maybe just wait? You already can prevent the DS by unnerving presence and enduring

    Troll comments aren't needed, thanks.

    He’s being serious.  
    Again: troll comments aren't needed, my dear Survivor mains. If you'd actually have any experience on the matter whatsoever, you wouldn't be talking all the crap you guys continue to let out simply because you're utterly ignorant about 50% of the game.
  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,669

    @Ihatelife said:
    Maybe just wait? You already can prevent the DS by unnerving presence and enduring

    yeah! lets run 2 perks just to counter the chance that a single perk might be in the game. then we gotta use ruin against the genrush and already 3/4 perks are used.
    the last one is probaply going to noed or another anti looping perk, making the perk choices as killer veery limited.