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Thoughts on this easy way to nerf nurse?
I personally think Nurse would be MUCH more balanced if her blink attacks weren’t M1s, similar to blight with his Rushes. Literally every nurse runs exposed builds and it’s getting so tiring. So if Nurses Blinks weren’t basic attacks and survivors don’t get instadowned. This way it keeps her strong by not touching anything else at all, thoughts?
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Yes good idea!!
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imo, Nurse needs a complete ground-up rework. Teleporting through walls breaks the fundamentals of the game, and you simply can't ever make it balanced.
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to be fair, nurse is the only killer in the game who has to exclusively rely on her power to get hits.
excluding a few specific scenarios, nurse never gets actual m1 hits.
killers like blight can get m1 hits without their powers fairly often, unlike nurse
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It would be a good temporary fix, as other people say, her power just doesn't really fit in dbd anymore. But making it so that if a Nurse wants to use exposure perks, they have to use that one add-on that makes her a 4.6 m/s killer is a welcome change in my eyes.
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That would kinda hurt her perk flexibility though.
Honestly I would rather her post-blink lunge just be a tad shorter. I feel like it's extremely forgiving. Like covering an entire DH distance worth of forgiveness. It currently feels like it compensates too much for blinks that were aimed incorrectly.
That all said, Nurse in generally is fine on most players, it's only the very rare god tier Nurses where it feels like you can't do much and as stated, those are very rare. It feels a bit weird to give a nerf to a killer that is only too oppressive in rare cases. This is kind of similar to the "absolute monster that is Twins at high mmr". We shouldn't have nerfed Twins for the same reason I'm hesitant to nerf Nurse, the problem cases are just statistically irrelevant on the grand scale of things.
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I think she just needs a complete rework, but at least this change wouldn't limit perk design because Nurse felt like existing.
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Thats the ding ding right there
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Would you rather all Nurses just stack slowdowns every game then?
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white nit comb is like worst add-on in the entire game. putting this as base-kit would be terrible. perfect for survivor bully simulator vs nurse.
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Well I didn't necessarily mean 50% as the Comb applies. I also wouldn't even mind the removal of the token system they nerfed on her base kit a while back.
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I'd say the token system was made so that nurses would not be able to slug as effectively with infectious fright and it gives survivors a bit of head-start in term of hold-w distance upon getting hit/missing a hit. it means you need to land medium to long distance blinks that have decent mindgame potential.
Of course there are survivor that do not utilize blink token cooldown system fully from poor movement, though dbd shouldn't balance around bad survivors even though it does(with like twin's example).
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Pig has been trash for as long as I have been playing. Doesn't stop them from nerfing her every other patch and constantly trying to gaslight the gullible into believing they are buffing her.
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Nurse should be buffed actually, she’s a little underpowered
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I honestly wonder how Nurse would perform if she was 4.4 m/s but only had one blink.
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All of a sudden I would be capable of playing her against decent survivors. Lol. So, yeah, it would be a pretty massive performance jump at the low end. Obviously I imagine quite a hit at high mmr. Balance.
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Delete her
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Heres the problem with that, nurse has no addons and effects that expose survivors, or other perks that synergize with her besides information perks and gen perks, if you take away one of nurses perk pools that she can actually use that means an increase in slowdown perks on nurse, would you want to play against nurses that have another slowdown perk or two instead of have a perk or two like stastruck or haunted grounds
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Not possible. Because Nurse is slower than survivors, so she can not take m1 hits if we do that. And this means she can not use so much perks. This does not look fair for her.
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Oh look, it's head pop fetish guy that keeps spreading misinformation because he's salty that they buffed pig's traps' stalling ability but reduced the likelihood of survivors dying to the traps.
Interesting how some people just throw out random accusations of others doing the gaslighting when that's exactly what they're doing. Major red flag.
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The easy way to nerf Nurse is to get good as survivor.
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Great Nurse buff, now she can realistically only use slowdown Perks
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I don’t think Nurse needs exposed hits either. The developers look like they’re up to something with stacking slowdowns so that may not be the threat (stacking them) we think it is.
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I want a downvote option
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I was saying to make her after blink hits a special hits long time before. But many people didnt like it then
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For all intents and purposes, Nurse’s blink attack is a basic attack. You don't actually expect a base movement speed 96.25% killer to land attacks without their ability.. do you?
Why aren't Wraith's lunges coming out of cloak considered special attacks? Hag's phantasm attacks? Spirit coming out of phase? Heck, even Deathslinger's ranged special attack is not treated this way. So, you need to be consistent with all killers if you're going to suggest this.
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To me locking her blink trajectory would be better. I think it used to be linked this, but now it seems like whichever direction you run in to evade she can get you.
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Agree on the M2 thing, also rework her range add-ons and rework the base game into a point system for perks and give nurse the least amount of expendable points. Kinda tired of stacked slowdown nurses
Also rework jolt to work on m2s
Also please people stop using the "god nurse", god nurses aren't a thing
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I think that if we want to nerf Nurse, that's one of the best ways to do it. The common objection that she can't get M1 hits since she moves so slowly kinda misses the point? Like, yes, the goal is to stop her from getting those hits because Exposed combined with the ability to blink through walls multiple times is very strong. All you're saying is that it would work, lol.
Additionally, I think that nerfing Nurse is going to become more and more of a viable idea as the meta changes to something healthier for killers. She may be balanced now - I'm not convinced either way - but her current level of power is going to get unbalanced if the rest of the game is brought down to something more manageable for the majority of the cast. So, if and when nerfing Nurse becomes a good idea, I think removing her synergy with Exposed perks would be a pretty solid direction to look in.
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I agree. Do that and revisit her addons and I honestly think she would be fine after that.
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Nurse needs a complete Rework. There is not really a way to nerf her, she will always be broken. Unless you nerf her so hard that she becomes useless, but this is also not the way to go.
A rework is the only chance to not have her be broken, but also to make sure that she is a strong KIller.
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Nurse dont need a nerf
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Make nurse can’t teleport through downed pallets. It’s not a big help for survs, but it’s something. You can use them to block her in his second blink
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I don’t agree with that, but I wouldn’t be against her having a longer stun if pallet stunned while blinking (like wraith stun in cloak). Basically it’d be like the old stun + fatigue she used to have, but less awkward looking.
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Thing is
I don't mind Nurse's M1 applying to stuff like sloppy butcher and the like since she HAS to use her power to get hits, unlike Blight
But at the same time I'm not happy that her M1 works with exposed - making her the best user of Haunted Grounds, Starstruck and so on
Starstruck Nurse is one of the worst experiences to go against imo
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Although I am not on side of "Nurse need nerfs", that doesn't change much.
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That’s fair.
I don’t mind it for sloppy butcher either, and the last couple days I’ve also been doing dark devotion nurse for memes. It doesn’t work every game but when it does it’s funny.
But I don’t think she should be allowed to get an instadown with her power, ever.
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But they can’t go through 3 walls at once 😁
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True, but their powers can be just as devastating with exposed abilities/STBFL which was my point. STBFL actually does nothing on blink attacks though, whereas it does for all those killers. Nurse is fine.
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Nurse doesn’t need a one shot build to make it fair. her power is strong enough and the OPs idea should be implemented asap!
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That's a sure good way to make every starstruck nurse go to 4 slowdowns yesyes.
Please nerf range before anything else.
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Range ain’t a problem compared to small loops and your exposed…
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I think Nurse’s basekit is fine but her add ons do need addressing.
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Only survivor mains are saying that.
And their point is invalid.
No one else spews stuff like this.
PS: Nurse is fine, if survivors can play.
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This would kill any form of build diversity on all nurses at all levels of skill . Unless you enjoy playing against 4 slowdown perks. This is a bad idea.
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Whats with all the sudden Nurse hate? Are killers getting sick of playing trash that gets nerfed for no reason or something?
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Ah yes because a killer that can noclip through walls, ignoring all environmental defences (which the game is balanced around) should also be able to one shot survivors! What great game balance!
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Gideon meat plant is totally balanced. /s
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Another day, another thread asking for a nurse nerf. As usual :
- Survivor main will say she is "broken" or "unbalanced"
- We will provide stats and data showing that in fact, she has a BAD winrate comparing to all killers, and is very hard to learn
- Survivor main will argue there is no counterplay
- We will explain to survivor main how to counter a nurse
- Survivor main will argue that despite this counterplay, it's still easy to get 4k with nurse at any elo
- We will ask for winstreak video proof to back up this claim
- Survivor main will ignore this request because unable to do it
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What do you mean by that? Because if you're saying nerf her addons, that's just a big bowl of LOL. Most of her addons are for meme builds. I'm sure not what the devs intended, but that's how they played out. Even her iri third blink isn't that great. The recharge is so slow even with the 20% faster recharge.
Her best addons are the recharges, range, and my own personal fav, Jenner's Last Breath, which allows her to blink back to her original position, which is great against people that double back. Other than that, the rest are a good luck with that type of mood.
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I'm all in for this nerf. That would allow to buff some perks without having to mind what it would mean with Nurse. E.g. removing the cooldown of Surge / Jolt.
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