hey behaviour its time to rework nurse
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This doesn't answer the question, what rules does she ignore? Is there a website I can visit to read these "rules"? That said; Dredge can travel across the map faster, Freddy can, Sadako can, Demogorgon can - all four of these can do so without walls being an obstacle/issue. None, you say?
Now, where are the rules which state that walls are in the game as obstacles for the killer and that killers shouldn't be able to ignore them?
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Seeing how you go against arguments in this thread trying to explain, why they oppose your idea, in a rather ignorant way, make you seem more like a raging person (and I was temptet to wright child), rather than someone who actually wants to discuss.
So before you come at me, lets get the list. Lets see ... I play both sides, I don't main nurse, just played her a few times, I'm also not good against her and mainly play soloq, when surv.
People can outplay a nurse. Training goes both ways. It takes some time to get used to her. If an unexpirienced nurse is in your trial you actually already won, I'm gonna leave this here for everyone to consider. Once there is a trained nurse you need to learn how to go against her. Thtat takes time too. Surprise, your win is not gifted but has to be achieved. For the learning process, as always, there are some good videos on youtube for counterplay. I mean it, watch them.
Soloq is harsh on top of that, you can't control how the others play and communication is very limited. Everyone knows that's a problem of itself but this problem occurs in almost every multiplayergame.
I wish you a nice day.
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The range addons are strong, and give her and advantage, especially on certain situations, but are not OP, I think 😋
On the contrary, when a nurse makes a 20-30m-blink, it's even easier to double-back her 😂
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Of course she can do that : It's the nurse basic power ... welcome in DbD.
So, git gud ?
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I mean if a nurse overblinks that much using range add-ons they aren't even good or experienced to begin with 😂😂this killer is kinda polarizing,, baby and even mediocre nurses will get steamrolled,, I've seen it,, I've also seen experienced nurses making me want to alt f4 in the first mins,, I don't mind strong killers, nurse's ranged add-ons is what I'd nerf on her same way I'd leave blight as he is but nerf/remove alchemist ring on hin
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EXACTLY.
Facing the nurse is possible.
BUT, more complicated than a walking killer.
BUT, possible.
But many survivors wish she was that easy to face...
On a cooler note, I suggest that survivors play Nurse, as it will allow them to understand its mechanics, and precisely what can counter her 😉
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Yeah she's pretty insane to go against. Hard to pick up, but once you do, kills come easy to her and is a miserable time for survivors. There are so many simple things they could tweak that would balance her out so much more. Everytime I see a nurse in my game I'm like welp, this is gonna suck, and then it does and everyone gives up.
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This is every game I've played today. Minus the perks. Nothing but Nurse after Nurse after Nurse. Its just so damn boring. Always running meta perks too. And then they blame survivors for running boring meta builds. Smh.
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So, the perfect change is to convert a Killer in an average M1 that everyone noob or sweaty swf can use as a toy, loop easy and abuse.
We might as well remove the Blight then as it is redundant.
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I just want the devs to acknowledge she’s too strong at this point. Literally no one but nurse mains actually defend her at this point.
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That's not true. If you read the thread, there are people defending her, that are not playing her. (raising my Hand)
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So, from your point of view, if you see on a topic 5 or 6 speakers who agree with you, then it means that the whole world thinks that she is too strong?
Sorry, but it doesn't work like that, does it?
I know survivors, who don't play killers, who have a hard time dealing with the nurse, and who don't have any problems with her addons.
The more time goes by, the more players would like everything to be easy, might as well remove Nurse and Blight, lower all killers to 75m/s, increase the fixing speed of generators by 250%, decrease the charge consumption of items by 500%, and allow survivors to have the passive ability to automatically stun the killer for 3 minutes when the latter hits them.
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No, leave her alone
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She is not hardest you need few matches to bit undertand blinking once you learn that it's not that hard. Pinhead is much harder killer for example it's very hard to control his chains. Only thing with nurse is bit hard is to quess what survivors going to do but once you played enough you will quess that most of the time. Nurse needs major nerf she has best power in the game. Oni's power is second best but he has to earn it is that fair nurse to get best power in the game right at the start.
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That’s not what I mean. What I do mean is that whenever one of these threads show up nurse mains seem to be the only ones trying to defend her. I don’t want the game to be easier in fact I want maps to be less survivor sided and objectives to become slower. What I don’t want is 2-3 killers to dominate over the rest, by nerfing them (mainly nurse) it will be easier then to balance the game
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It is not the case. Neither your first statement, nor the second. Not everyone defending her is a Nurse main, read the whole thread. Nurse is not dominating. You can win against a good nurse. If it is a sweaty player behind her it would not matter if it was nurse or any other killer, except the plain weak ones. I mean, sure, this game is not very balanced, but Nurse is really not the problem. You just need different stradegies against her than against almost all other killers. That's pretty much all about it.
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That's because it's started again where everyone is complaining it happened before and it's happening again people hate playing against Nurse and that's fine. I'm sorry you hate Nurse, but you have to understand some of us to love facing and playing against Nurse. I feel like people think everyone who is left that plays Nurse now only plays her because she is strong when that is just not true some people love her design and the way you have to play against her.
You can say I'm lying or just enjoy a training wheel killer idc you are entitled to your own opinion, just don't claim it as the fact that's all I ask, but many people were fine when Nurse was reworked once before and that was enough for a time for people because Nurse's pick rate plummeted with only a few people that enjoyed Nurse sticking with her.
I think the lack of facing as many Nurses and the inclusion of sbmm has created this situation where people go up against a Nurse that has been playing that killer for years and get destroyed causing this domino effect where people think all Nurses are just absolute monsters, but it just isn't true. The nurse is one of those killers you need to know how they work to counter, similar to I guess as an example buffed legion when they were first buffed people kept together in groups for who knows what reason and mended quickly making it seem like Legion was this uncounterable monster when all they needed to do was split up and deny legions power.
I know this sounds crazy, but Nurse is similar in the regard that her counters aren't known unless you play her or figure out how exactly she works, as she relies heavily on visual and audio its one of the reasons why corn maps suck as her and Lery's because those maps hard counter her and why maps like dead dawg and game are so good, both are small and offer little visual blockers.
It's just frustrating for people who love playing Nurse and against Nurse because it's not like people don't type out exactly how she is countered and yes there are maps where she is too good on like the game and dead dawg, but I don't think making her awful to play as is the solution or downright removing her. Like it really will kill the game for me, because imagine if your favorite killer was removed or made so unfun to play that you don't enjoy them anymore, like deathslinger mains. I don't think making killers so unfun in design to play as is the solution to making Nurse more bearable to play against you can take Nurses' addons and make them all useless for all I care, but please don't ruin Nurse.
I mean is it that hard to understand why we are so vehemently opposed to it when everyday threads are asking for Nurse to be ruined? Like I admit I care too much, but I'm just kind of sick of all the people who are like acting like Nurse mains are the worst kind of people on the forums and at times it feels like everyone hates us and doesn't care what we have to say because they think our opinion is invalid. After all, we enjoy playing such a character. I mean have you seen how many people say "ooh you just defend this character because she is op." meanwhile those same people don't think top-performing swf teams are a problem "because it's not all swf" meanwhile they turn a blind eye to Nurse for whatever reason and act as all Nurses do is 4k every game no exceptions.
Short answer: because we are tired that people don't listen to anything we say because they think our opinion is invalid for dumb reasons.
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Amen.
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thats just a worst Blight lmao
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These pics prove nothing though,
You coulda been a 4 man swf who just got a nurse and instantly gave up off the bat instead of trying,
Or two just gave up entirely and the other two didn't wanna play it through so,
That or you guys kept staying around eachother after one got down =___=
Again.. not a Nurse Issue, Player issue,
I'll say it once and i'll continue saying it
NURSE DOES NOT NEED TO BE REWORKED, NERFED, OR CHANGED. UNTIL WE SEE ALOT OF CHANGES THAT ACTUALLY HELPS BOTH SIDES,
Period...
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You missed the point there didn’t you? Reread it and try again.
Varied killers keep the game interesting. Making nurse chase the same way as other killers basically nullifying everything that makes her varied and interesting is the perfect way to make sure every game of dbd is the same.
Learn to play around the nurse, start with not running around the same rock 6 times that doesn’t work.
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Don't mind me
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And yet, she's one of the least picked killers with the lowest killrates. Evidently she's not as easy as you think because no one outside of already high MMR killers probably play her. A company like BHVR uses statistics a lot, and my guess is their statistics say that at the highest level, where Nurse is deadliest, the kill/escape rates are probably fairly even, because only really good survivors/SWF would be playing those kinds of Nurse's, and she's not as strong as you think against good survivors.
See, a lot of people aren't interested in learning to play against Nurse, or run into a good Nurse to learn how to. It's always funny when a terrible survivor thinks every Nurse they run into is god tier when the reality is they're just bad, and predictable, and would've lost against any killer.
I have been seeing everyone use this weird notion that "Everything in the game would be better/changed if Nurse didn't exist" as a means to justify the state of the game. No Nurse? Oh, better map design, better perk design, better killer design, better everything design. How delusional some people really are to say stuff like that and get people on their side because of their hate for a killer, and how they could be so ignorant is beyond me
The average player would be better off complaining against killers they actually see often, while the people complaining about Nurse, in my mind at least, are probably the kinds of people so used to bullying the majority of the cast of killers they just hate the idea of a few select killers existing they can't easily deal with. That doesn't mean I don't think some things about Nurse aren't broken, I'd say her range addons should all be nerfed, and she shouldn't be able to take advantage of things like Starstruck/Devour if she uses a blink, but she doesn't need much else nerfed realistically.
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The 'X would be better if Nurse didn't exist' is code for 'I have zero compelling arguments but still want to create misinformation that justifies my stance'
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She needs no nerf.
She needs no addons rework.
She's juste fine.
Learn to play against.
That's all.
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I don't think Nurse is the urgent case when maps are stupidly broken and many killers are weak or easy to loop or both.
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Game would be better without nurse everything has to be balanced around her. If some perk is made too strong she will became op for example stratruck. She has best power in the game and she does not have to do anything to earn it. Oni has second best but he is very limited on how he can use it and has to earn it. If nurse is fine in game like this I quess oni should start with his power and would still be weaker than nurse. But it at least would make him viable.
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There is zero evidence that the game is balanced around Nurse, the champion with the worst kill rate and a very small pick rate.
It is a bold lie to say that with a straight face.
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lol please, you have to.... you know... land your blinks? If you can't you are literally powerless and cannot do anythng
Last time I checked Oni can play like m1 killer and chase survivors normally, then camp the hook and activate his power to insta down the unhooker if the player behind him is not good at using the power or he can insta down the entire team if they are good which the only time Nurse can do is if she has a specific perk. Nurse has to earn her downs by playing perfectly, you either land your blink or don't, with oni even if you do not insta down the survior you can still chase them and use the speed boost to get where you need to go and then down them with m1
This entire notion that Nurse gets everything on the platter while everyone else struggles with pallets and map is so silly since it seems that everyone forgets that
- out of 28 killers she is the only one slower than survivors
- out of 28 killers she is the only one that 100% depends on her power for everything - if you do not know how to blink you cannot do anything with her literally except float around lookiing like a sad lady
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In any case, I think we can assume that as long as a survivor who complains about the nurse ... does NOT play the nurse, he or she has no legitimacy to complain about it.
You can't judge something you don't know or play.
(and for the smart asses who would reply that it's ok for me to say that, since I'm a main nurse ... at the time of her 5 blinks, I agree that yes, absolutely, she was OP)
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I think by just making the recharge rate take longer and removing all recharge rate addons the Nurse would be a lot weaker.
Imagine a Nurse wich takes 5 seconds to recharge 1 Token. so 10 Seconds in Total for 2 Tokens.
A Survivor could gain good Distance over her in that Time.
The only Problem i see is: Thats boring as Hell for both Survivors and The Killer.
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So you have nothing but your own opinion to back yourself up and a sad reductio ad absurdum opinion on Nurse's difficulty level.
Well, that settles the question as to whether your argument has any validity.
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I agree, also delete Huntress
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