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Survivors and Killers alike; Why DC at the conclusion?
I've been seeing this a lot lately on both sides and I have to know.....why does everyone DC in the final few moments of a match? You essentially just wasted the 15 minutes you spent in the match, and get 0 points at the end. And then you add another 5 minute penalty to yourself. Why? Why DC at the end and not take your points?
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Yeah, I don’t get why people throw away 20k bloodpoints or whatever by raging out like that. Probably just an anger management thing.
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I imagine most of them are not thinking about it. They're either rage quitting (and potentially feeling dumb that they now have to wait 5+ minutes but that gives them time to cool off at least) or they're done anyway so they just say "Screw it" and leave early to go do whatever they planned on doing (in which case, they don't care about a 5+ minute penalty cause they're done playing the game either way).
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It's rare, but if it's 3 or 4 survivors waiting at the gate for the entire egc in order to force me to watch them teabag, dead hard and leave at the last possible moment, I'd rather sacrifice the points. If my time is going to be wasted, I'd rather it be in 5 minutes of solitude and not tolerating bm lmao.
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Salt, pretty much. "You didn't win if I quit first" sort of thing.
I feel like that's going to be more gratifying to the team of BMers than just going to some corner of the match and tabbing out for two minutes. People who do that want a reaction from the killer, and by DCing, you're giving them the most satisfying one possible.
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But that’s just it. At that point it’s not about them, it’s about me not wanting to use my time for them to sit there gloating. There’s no reason for all of the remaining survivors to stand an inch away from the exit while fully healthy other than to have the killer see them gloat. They could just leave but choose not to. If you don’t leave, I will make that choice for all of us if I don’t feel like waiting for you. To me it’s no different than if I a killer downs all 4 survivors and let’s them all bleed out instead of hooking them (this isn’t slugging). As a killer main, I’m not salty when survivors act like children at the gate but I’m also not going to lose an ounce of sleep cutting it short.
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I've DC'd at the end very rarely. A couple of times it's because I'm already on the hook, I'm dying, and it's like 'Okay I get the picture. Yeahyeah I died. Then I see the cooldown and realize 'Ah crap that counted as a disconnect. I was supposed to wait until the post game screen.' It becomes more likely if I'm playing several SWF games in a row where I can spectate and bounce between spectate and post game lobby relatively quickly and I forget that I have to wait to access post game lobby.
The times I left after just being tilted to ######### was just like not really a conscious thought it's just, 'I don't want to see this anymore.' It's not really a 'take power from the killer' thing or a way to have the final hurrah, it's just 'Whatever I don't even care I'm past this #########.' and then I leave. If I get to that point I don't even wait out the cooldown, I accept that I've fully tilted and do something else with my life.
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I think of it as a “polite protest.” When I’m being generous with the story I tell myself about losing players.
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It is, you can see streamers gloating when the other side DCs at the end after trolling them.
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I always love it when they do that. It's like, "Ha! I showed you Mr. Killer!" "I got outplayed but I won't give you the satisfaction of knowing you won haha."
I just have to laugh. If you just want easy games where You're Winner! Then Just play Hello Kitty Island Adventure. After all, who wants a challenge in their video game?
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I remember my last match on the old dark Coldwind map, not sure which version, against a Ghostie Boy. He had almost all of us on death hook, so a decently close match, but we got the gens done. Then the surv with a hook left went down to NOED.
He camps because he has too, and I find NOED and break it. BT save and we file in behind to bodyblock to the gate. GF almost swims around us but we open the gate and we all are going to get out. Insta DC.
Then I get a message from the Dwight, who was on PC but had signed into Xbox app to try and talk to us. He said the killer (on PC) accused us of being a filthy 4-man SWF
From my view all three other survs were Crossplay, however the Dwight said he and another were on PC but solo, and the last surv never responded (maybe PS? dunno).
We just played well together and got things done, and had a sprinkling of game sense. When asked why he DC'd and throw away good Bloodpoints, he said it was to deny us our escape points. Guess he didn't play much survivor.
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I don´t understand this either.
I want my BP, even the few ones.
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Its a rage quit, pretty simple and self explanatory
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I view it as the closest thing they can do to giving the ol' middle finger. Still doesn't make much sense, but a fragile ego does whatever it needs to do to protect itself.
That said, I've had my first killer dc two days ago in what feels like months. Even with the 4vs thing in mind, the survivor side dc's way more than the killer side, in my experience. Kinda odd, that.
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No way, just open a gate, or walk up to the gate forcing them to open it, then go to basement and tab out for 2 minutes. Way better. If you had a 10 min game and they choose to BM, don't let them rob you of your BP because it's frustrating to deal with taunting at gates. As soon as EGC has begun the game will be over in 2 minutes, tab out instead of DCing, big tip.
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I don't understand why people do it either, other than the unnecessary salt reaction to a loss. I've had very few killers DC, and it's usually mid-game when the match is completely one-sided against them. Playing killer, I've seen numerous DC's from people on their last hook, even in games where there's been multiple BPS/cakes, even in games where they're the last one dead in a 12-hook, everyone-two-hooked first, close to the end contest with BP offerings in play. Whatever reaction they're trying to get from me -- they're failing miserably, lol. The only one losing out is themselves.
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If it's not the last survivor I can see them doing it to deny killer perks like BBQ or scourge hooks or in hopes the hatch will open next to the other survivor before killer can get to them. I'm sure most times it's just rage quit/not wanting to see animation but atleast there can be strategic reasons for it.
For killer though it is just silly to quit at end when survivors are in the exit. They still get escape points and it counts as escape for tome challenges so it's not like the killer is denying the survivors anything. DC at end really only hurts the killer.
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But now you're giving yourself a 5 minute (or higher) wait when you'd have had a 2-minute wait by riding out the endgame collapse, in addition to depipping yourself and sacrificing your bloodpoints. If it's not about the survivors, then your decision doesn't make sense.
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As far as I'm concerned, it's a 3 minute wait without the bming (5 minutes - 2 minute EGC = 3 minutes lost at most). Well worth the trade. At rank 1, i can't depip anyway so there's really no actual down side. I can use a survivor pudding offering the very next match and get back any points I forfeited. I would much rather spend my 3 minutes not getting bmed. Pretty simple to understand really lol. If you enjoy being forced to force survivors out while they teabag and you have no way to actually put them in danger at that point, more power to you.
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As a Killer i only do it if the Survivors are toxic beyond measure and I’m done with the game for the day. Only really happens once every few weeks.
I can only take so many pallet camping, Flashlight Ninjaing, Tea bagging Survivors before I crack and decide to go play something with friends or read a book.
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it's 1 extra minute of waiting vs 2 minutes of getting bmed/having to force them out. I'll take the 1 extra minute without the bming. 5 minute ban less 2 minute EGC = net 3 minute ban vs 2 minutes of bming. Not a big deal. Can get the points back in the next game with a survivor pudding offering.
Imagine the outrage if every killer just slugged all 4 survivors until they bled out every game. That is what survivors are doing by standing at the gate for no reason other than to waste the killer's time. Just be a good sport, take your win and leave. It really is that simple. But if you choose to stay and BM, you have no right to expect the other side to sit there and take it lol.
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Here's my theory.
People who had a particular rough game feel frustrated. They feel angry, helpless. To them, DC-ing at the end is the last thing they CHOOSE to do. It's the only means they have left of taking control and ending the game on "their" terms.
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It's the mindset of haha you didn't kill/escape from me I'm the winner
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Normally if I dc its when I'm playing survivor. And that exact scenario is usually me being tunneled out in a dead zone, left for a minute to wait out the DS I don't have, then repeat until I'm dead. That's only if the killer respects DS anyways. Which yet again, I don't have so I can bring "fun" builds that get me killed for not having meta perks. It happens a lot more than I would expect it to.
Sometimes the match is frustrating and you just want out asap. Whether you're losing gens fast to a clicky squad, or in the above scenario I mentioned. The DC is just a way to remove yourself from the situation.
I feel like you should get 3 free DC's that recharge over a 24 hour period. If you're having 3 bad matches, you might as well quit and play something else. Or if you're experiencing a game breaking bug. Currently there's one that can completely deactivate your power for the rest of the match that I've experienced a fair amount.
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A survivor in one of my games did it to deny a Myers his Tombstone achievement. I was the one who popped the last gen and sought out Myers to let him take his third Tombstone kill (me), then spectated to see if he'd get his 4th or the survivor would escape through hatch or gate. Myers was coming up quick while he was opening the gate so he just DC'd lol
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I've been disconnecting because I'm sick and tired of Survivors that want to show me the ass dance.
It wasn't funny the first time I've seen it.
It's not going to magically be funny the millionth time.
I'll be happy to make you leave, knowing that after my 5 minutes of waiting, I'm STILL going to be in a game before you are.
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The game was very long, dinner was ready. Me and one other person were left, he slugged me to find the other survivor, I couldn't be bothered to lay on the ground for another 4 minutes.
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The thing is when you DC you A)give them the satisfaction, B) let them go back into queue instantly And C) are stuck with a 5 minute (or more) time out.
But if you just wait, while being off screen, afk or just power spamming/pallet braking, you 1) waste only 3 minutes of your time, 2) even better, waste 3 minutes of their time and 3) can take a break, fetch a drink, go to the toilet or watch something on a second screen/smartphone.
It's a win/win/win in my book.
OR you do it like other people advice (not me) and just give them the audience for their escape the so much crave and just push them out in seconds.
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I rarely DC out of anger,,,HOWEVER if i identify the white ward offering belongs to the clicky clicker flashlight user ,,i may m1 them with franklin's (if i got it on) make sure they run away from item and insta DC so they lose their precious purple beamer even though they got white ward on Kekw
I might w8 to give them a "nice beamer" in post game lobby to tilt them more lmao
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There is no win win for the killer. You either wait (time wasted), force them out (time wasted), or leave (time wasted). If my time will be wasted regardless, I’d rather wait in the lobby where I don’t hear obnoxious clicking or exploding sound notifications. I’m not going and hitting 3 or 4 people who are just choosing not to leave and are at no risk of being hooked. Nor am I tabbing out. I’ll save my 2 minutes and use the extra 3 minutes to prepare for the next match.
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But ... when the killer DC's you get to keep your item and offering. Soooo, sadly, that was pointless.
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To each their own i guess
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Why do you think? Anger makes people make irrational and stupid decisions. It isn't rocket science as to why they DC.
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i'm pretty sure if you're not holding your item when killer DCs you don't get to keep it
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The items get reset to the point before the trial. Yoe even get your offering back. At least it was this way when I was playing. I checked that everytime someone ended the round with a dc, because I wanted to know if I wasted them. Luckily I did not. ALways got them back. There also never was the "you lose objekt x" in the endscreen.
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Again,,,if killer DCs before you pick your item back after gettin hit with franklin's you will lose the item,,you get to escape when the killer DCs,,,If the item is NOT in your hand the moment game registers the DC you will lose the item,,
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I understood what you meant the first time, no need to repeat it. To extend my mentioned example, I'm pretty sure I had a game were I changed my item in the round to one from a chest. But after the game I rcieved my old one back, not the new one.
It would be nice if someone else then us could contribute to our thought's. 'Cause at this point neither of us can be sure if the other one is right. ^^
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No worries,,,we can always agree to disagree,however i firmly remember not gettin my flashlight put back into my inventory when the excact same thing happened to me as survivor,,i'm 99.9% sure cause it was my last anniversary beamer ,,I know what you say is 100% the case for DCs while loading screen though,at the end of the day if i'm wrong i've just forced myself w8ing 5mins for DC penalty to end ,, ^^
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I kinda get it if someone does it once in a blue moon. Say you've had a streak of really bad games and then something tips you over the edge, so you DC because you've just had enough and can't be bothered waiting (especially if you're being slugged as a survivor, or as a killer the game's over but the survivors insist on staying for as long as possible to BM at the exit gate).
However, people who do it a lot or do it because they don't like a specific killer are selfish because it ruins the game for everyone else.
I've also had survivors DC when I play killer to deny a Blood Warden play (something they proudly boasted about in the EGC).
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I think it speaks volumes about the games current state with the amount of dcs recently, just came back after a months timeout and honestly every game I’ve had has had dc’s, usually expect it in solo q to be fair but it’s never been this bad.
I don’t blame either side for dc’ing though, I think a lot of people expect a fair game but depending on the killer / team it’s always rarely that and after a few games I imagine it becomes tedious knowing how it’ll play out each time and being unable to control it due to balancing issues.
Either that or the mad hackers you get that hold the game hostage, hence the timeout I took hah
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