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Does anyone else think the doctor's tier 3 madness is overpowered?
Call me crazy but I think it's a little bit ridiculous that the doctor can put you into tier 3 madness without even shocking you and once you're in it you can't drop pallets as fast, you can't use a flashlight or heal yourself or anyone else, you literally can't do anything and when you get hooked it still doesn't snap you out of it. And when you start to snap out of it he can actually see you with nurses calling? Why is that a thing?
Look, I'm not complaining because of any specific match or anything. It just seems silly that tier 3 does that much to you. More so that it causes issues dropping pallets some times when it tries to snap out of it rather than drop the pallet similar to self care/pallet drop issues. I don't know, maybe he needs that overpowered aspect because he's otherwise weak. Just looking for thoughts and discussion here.
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I should clarify, I think going into tier 3 without being shocked is ridiculous only when you're knocked already. It seems like you should be unaffected by the passive madness while you're in the dying state.
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No it's not.
It takes a lot of time/shocks to get someone to tier 3. You drop and vault pallets as fast as always in tier 3. The shock is easily outplayable, it's really not a problem for good survivors. It can only somewhat shut down small loops or bad survivors.
Git gud please.
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@harley_gibson
I think he is fine the way he is. Whenever I go up against the doctor I try to be smart about it. He is not the type of killer you can constantly loop.2 -
The only thing I wanted changed about Madness is that it forces a slow vault if you scream or get shocked while vaulting. It's buggy bull ######### and totally connection dependent sometimes when you get shocked and it teleports you back to the other side of a window or pallet. If it forced a slow vault Doc's power would still be plenty useful in a chase and you wouldn't get completely screwed by Madness at a window.
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It's a bit strong that you can't heal, but overrall Doc is a really weak killer imo so I'm not too fussed.2
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No. doc is one of the weakest killers
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I find Tier 3 Madness to be fine. The only thing I have an issue with is it being tracked by A Nurse's Calling.
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Nope. I think it's fine.0
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It works fine as is. The only way it goes up without gettin shocked is if you are to active in his tr. Crouch while in the static and it wont effect you. If your on the verge of the next tier; stop what your doing and move outside the tr so madness can drop some. If it takes time for the killer to get you there it should be difficult to deal with.0
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@harley_gibson said:
Call me crazy but I think it's a little bit ridiculous that the doctor can put you into tier 3 madness without even shocking you and once you're in it you can't drop pallets as fast, you can't use a flashlight or heal yourself or anyone else, you literally can't do anything and when you get hooked it still doesn't snap you out of it. And when you start to snap out of it he can actually see you with nurses calling? Why is that a thing?Look, I'm not complaining because of any specific match or anything. It just seems silly that tier 3 does that much to you. More so that it causes issues dropping pallets some times when it tries to snap out of it rather than drop the pallet similar to self care/pallet drop issues. I don't know, maybe he needs that overpowered aspect because he's otherwise weak. Just looking for thoughts and discussion here.
doc is just slightly above leatherface and freddy because of that. I might admit that Nurses is a bit overpowered on him especially if you use add ons to increase the duration of snap out of it, but he's the most noticable killer in the game, he legit shows you where he's looking and when he's coming your way if you look at your feet. Survivors pretty much get a free spine chill/premonition against doc. He's also one of the most add on reliant killers in the game and his add ons don't do much except for extra tracking or range boosts.
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@DemonDaddy said:
It works fine as is. The only way it goes up without gettin shocked is if you are to active in his tr. Crouch while in the static and it wont effect you. If your on the verge of the next tier; stop what your doing and move outside the tr so madness can drop some. If it takes time for the killer to get you there it should be difficult to deal with.This. Exactly.
Don't wanna get to Madness 2? Move!0 -
harley_gibson said:
Call me crazy but I think it's a little bit ridiculous that the doctor can put you into tier 3 madness without even shocking you and once you're in it you can't drop pallets as fast, you can't use a flashlight or heal yourself or anyone else, you literally can't do anything and when you get hooked it still doesn't snap you out of it. And when you start to snap out of it he can actually see you with nurses calling? Why is that a thing?
Look, I'm not complaining because of any specific match or anything. It just seems silly that tier 3 does that much to you. More so that it causes issues dropping pallets some times when it tries to snap out of it rather than drop the pallet similar to self care/pallet drop issues. I don't know, maybe he needs that overpowered aspect because he's otherwise weak. Just looking for thoughts and discussion here.
I suggest to play more before judging, at rank 20 anything can be op on both sides0