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Can we talk about how over powered the clown is?

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  • Malakir
    Malakir Member Posts: 799
    edited December 2018
    Blueberry said:

    I'd say a killer being mid-tier is pretty bad. To me, mid-tier means you can perform well but you require the survivors to make a lot of mistakes and I don't think that's a very strong place to be in where your success is dependent on survivors rather than your own skill.

    Depend on what you mean when you say mid tier. For me mid tier isn't like that. Your description for me fit better on mid-low/low tier. A mid tier for me is someone you can perform decently (2-3k on average) when you know what you can do and when mained be as solid as an average high tier.

    Like I would put the hag in mid tier for example, and i love her but if you play her casually you won't perform as good like using someone like huntress. In the other hand if you know where to put the traps, know how she works etc you can be as solid

    Then there's the god tier which its been taken by just 2 killers and you can guess who
  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,590

    @Malakir said:
    Blueberry said:

    I'd say a killer being mid-tier is pretty bad. To me, mid-tier means you can perform well but you require the survivors to make a lot of mistakes and I don't think that's a very strong place to be in where your success is dependent on survivors rather than your own skill.

    Depend on what you mean when you say mid tier. For me mid tier isn't like that. Your description for me fit better on mid-low/low tier. A mid tier for me is someone you can perform decently (2-3k on average) when you know what you can do and when mained be as solid as an average high tier.

    Like I would put the hag in mid tier for example, and i love her but if you play her casually you won't perform as good like using someone like huntress. In the other hand if you know where to put the traps, know how she works etc you can be as solid

    Then there's the god tier which its been taken by just 2 killers and you can guess who

    I mean mid-tier or low-mid those are pretty close. Our interpretation of mid-tier seems different as well. This can also very a lot depending who you put in that mid-tier. For example you mentioned hag, I would not put hag in mid-tier.

  • Malakir
    Malakir Member Posts: 799
    Blueberry said:

    @Malakir said:
    Blueberry said:

    I'd say a killer being mid-tier is pretty bad. To me, mid-tier means you can perform well but you require the survivors to make a lot of mistakes and I don't think that's a very strong place to be in where your success is dependent on survivors rather than your own skill.

    Depend on what you mean when you say mid tier. For me mid tier isn't like that. Your description for me fit better on mid-low/low tier. A mid tier for me is someone you can perform decently (2-3k on average) when you know what you can do and when mained be as solid as an average high tier.

    Like I would put the hag in mid tier for example, and i love her but if you play her casually you won't perform as good like using someone like huntress. In the other hand if you know where to put the traps, know how she works etc you can be as solid

    Then there's the god tier which its been taken by just 2 killers and you can guess who

    I mean mid-tier or low-mid those are pretty close. Our interpretation of mid-tier seems different as well. This can also very a lot depending who you put in that mid-tier. For example you mentioned hag, I would not put hag in mid-tier.

    yeah I guessed it. I always get confused a bout that since I have a personal tier list in mind but never checked if there is an official one or something. I saw some like tydetime or ardetha tier list but I always kept mine as main idea until I see an ""official"" one

    Like I put hag there cuz with her you can be very scary if you main her. Even if she's more mid-high while clown mid-low.. Still, she's easy to beat if the person who uses her don't know how to "abuse" the traps, like for example making the survivor turn in a way during a chase, cut loops etc

    Hard to master with an average reward

    Higher tier is easier to master compared to hag (arguably) and even get higher rewards
  • Swiftblade131
    Swiftblade131 Member Posts: 2,051

    People play Clown?

  • blue4zion
    blue4zion Member Posts: 2,773

    @harley_gibson said:
    while giving him the fastest killer speed in the game?

    What? He's 115% like most killers.

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    Malakir said:
    Blueberry said:

    @Malakir said:
    Blueberry said:

    I'd say a killer being mid-tier is pretty bad. To me, mid-tier means you can perform well but you require the survivors to make a lot of mistakes and I don't think that's a very strong place to be in where your success is dependent on survivors rather than your own skill.

    Depend on what you mean when you say mid tier. For me mid tier isn't like that. Your description for me fit better on mid-low/low tier. A mid tier for me is someone you can perform decently (2-3k on average) when you know what you can do and when mained be as solid as an average high tier.

    Like I would put the hag in mid tier for example, and i love her but if you play her casually you won't perform as good like using someone like huntress. In the other hand if you know where to put the traps, know how she works etc you can be as solid

    Then there's the god tier which its been taken by just 2 killers and you can guess who

    I mean mid-tier or low-mid those are pretty close. Our interpretation of mid-tier seems different as well. This can also very a lot depending who you put in that mid-tier. For example you mentioned hag, I would not put hag in mid-tier.

    yeah I guessed it. I always get confused a bout that since I have a personal tier list in mind but never checked if there is an official one or something. I saw some like tydetime or ardetha tier list but I always kept mine as main idea until I see an ""official"" one

    Like I put hag there cuz with her you can be very scary if you main her. Even if she's more mid-high while clown mid-low.. Still, she's easy to beat if the person who uses her don't know how to "abuse" the traps, like for example making the survivor turn in a way during a chase, cut loops etc

    Hard to master with an average reward

    Higher tier is easier to master compared to hag (arguably) and even get higher rewards
    Any killer is easy to beat if the person who plays as them doesn't know how to use them.
    Hag is a top tier killer and has given me at least 3K in almost every match since i decided to main her a few months ago.
    PS: when we talk about tiers we talk about how efficient is that killer if played properly.
  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,590
    edited December 2018

    @Malakir said:
    Blueberry said:

    @Malakir said:

    Blueberry said:

    I'd say a killer being mid-tier is pretty bad. To me, mid-tier means you can perform well but you require the survivors to make a lot of mistakes and I don't think that's a very strong place to be in where your success is dependent on survivors rather than your own skill.



Depend on what you mean when you say mid tier. For me mid tier isn't like that. Your description for me fit better on mid-low/low tier. A mid tier for me is someone you can perform decently (2-3k on average) when you know what you can do and when mained be as solid as an average high tier.

Like I would put the hag in mid tier for example, and i love her but if you play her casually you won't perform as good like using someone like huntress. In the other hand if you know where to put the traps, know how she works etc you can be as solid

    Then there's the god tier which its been taken by just 2 killers and you can guess who

    I mean mid-tier or low-mid those are pretty close. Our interpretation of mid-tier seems different as well. This can also very a lot depending who you put in that mid-tier. For example you mentioned hag, I would not put hag in mid-tier.

    yeah I guessed it. I always get confused a bout that since I have a personal tier list in mind but never checked if there is an official one or something. I saw some like tydetime or ardetha tier list but I always kept mine as main idea until I see an ""official"" one

    Like I put hag there cuz with her you can be very scary if you main her. Even if she's more mid-high while clown mid-low.. Still, she's easy to beat if the person who uses her don't know how to "abuse" the traps, like for example making the survivor turn in a way during a chase, cut loops etc

    Hard to master with an average reward

    Higher tier is easier to master compared to hag (arguably) and even get higher rewards

    I am basing a killers tier strength assuming they are played perfectly and the survivors are playing perfectly. Assessing somethings strength with the assumption of the person being stupid or playing dumb is a bad way to come at that assessment and is what has led to a lot of the game imbalances we have today.

    I'd put clown at mid-high..at least.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    edited December 2018
    I used to main Clown. He can be good but you do rely on survivors to make mistakes.

    If 4 survivors split up across a large map and rush gens there's little he can do. He just doesn't have the pressure.

    Compare that to Billy who can cross the map in a few seconds and instadown people all game. Or hag who doesnt even need to look for survivors, she just teleports to them, or nurse who's....well nurse.

    Clown is rather tame in comparison.
  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    friendlykillermain said:

    @Vietfox said:
    Master said:

    @Vietfox said:

    Malakir said:

    Vietfox said:



Malakir said:



Vietfox said:



Malakir said:



Vietfox said:



Malakir said:



Vietfox said:



Malakir said:



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Iceman said:

What do you platform do you play on because I would like to play against you right now. Anyone who plays clown gets an average of 1-2 kills per match. 

The clown is not op. It is so easy to dodge his bottles. He can still get looped. 

Wrong, clown is op in the right hands, as it should be.

Yeah and today in a beautiful green sky when I played DbD I wrecked people by flying with the clown putting jack in the boxes everywhere scaring the living ######### out of people

I'm sorry you don't know how to play with the clown.

I'm sorry you just play 50% of the game

I don't, i play both killer and survivor, try again.

    If you played more as a killer you would know that the clown is not as bad as you think.

    So now you know what I think?

I just stated and mads it clearl isn't even slightly opened, he's mid tier in my tier list but nothing special

Your mind reads are pretty weak, try again

You are just guessing mate, can you provide some real proof?

Wat

    Wait what??

    Please tell me what you smoke, it must be really good. I have no idea what are you talking about

    Mmh i see, u dont understand.

    The clown is mid tier due to your skills.

    I'm not saying i'm good with the clown, but i've seen clowns keeping the map pressure as good as a billy.

    @Blueberry has over 2K hours and despite the fact that we usually disagree he will tell you that the clown is a good killer as well.

    Good killer isn't mid tier? Wait what?

Dude now I seriously doubt your sanity. Mid tier is the new trash tier? And now what's this Clown as equal as billy, are you okay?

That statement alone is so dumb, okay whatever dude. I really don't know what to tell you if you think one char that have a power nurse like with instadown that can make pressure over the entire map in seconds at the same level as a M1 killer with bottles to slow survivors I don't know what to tell you

I actually won't even talk to you honestly after seeing dozen of posts from you with this kind of flawed logic. You might be rank 20 or just played for less than 2weeks, that might be it, still we cannot agree in anything. When you start thinking then maybe we can have a discussion

Good killer = above mid tier

    Keep it that way mate, i like it when someone is that hostile. Makes me be right.

    Edit: yeah, rank 20 mate, whatever makes you feel better

    Console yikes

    I come from pc dude, what wrong with the console anyway?
    A part from fps and stuff*

    yeah what is wrong with console?

    He's consracism! :(

    Cons(ole) racism
    1.
    Racist to console users

    Btw, I made the word up lol :p
  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    Nickenzie said:
    friendlykillermain said:

    yeah what is wrong with console?

    He's consracism! :(

    Cons(ole) racism
    1.
    Racist to console users

    Btw, I made the word up lol :p
    We got it @Nickenzie
  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    Vietfox said:
    Nickenzie said:
    friendlykillermain said:

    yeah what is wrong with console?

    He's consracism! :(

    Cons(ole) racism
    1.
    Racist to console users

    Btw, I made the word up lol :p
    We got it @Nickenzie
    Lol, whenever you see me say something stupid, you should know I'm trying to stop an argument. I don't like to see people argue lol.
  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    Nickenzie said:
    Vietfox said:
    Nickenzie said:
    friendlykillermain said:

    yeah what is wrong with console?

    He's consracism! :(

    Cons(ole) racism
    1.
    Racist to console users

    Btw, I made the word up lol :p
    We got it @Nickenzie
    Lol, whenever you see me say something stupid, you should know I'm trying to stop an argument. I don't like to see people argue lol.
    Arguments are so cool  :p
  • PhantomMask20763
    PhantomMask20763 Member Posts: 5,176
    Clown isnt OP. He's pretty decent but hes far from OP if you know how to play against him 
  • ChesterTheMolester
    ChesterTheMolester Member Posts: 2,771
    Nickenzie said:
    friendlykillermain said:

    @Vietfox said:
    Master said:

    @Vietfox said:

    Malakir said:

    Vietfox said:



Malakir said:



Vietfox said:



Malakir said:



Vietfox said:



Malakir said:



Vietfox said:



Malakir said:



Vietfox said:



Iceman said:

What do you platform do you play on because I would like to play against you right now. Anyone who plays clown gets an average of 1-2 kills per match. 

The clown is not op. It is so easy to dodge his bottles. He can still get looped. 

Wrong, clown is op in the right hands, as it should be.

Yeah and today in a beautiful green sky when I played DbD I wrecked people by flying with the clown putting jack in the boxes everywhere scaring the living ######### out of people

I'm sorry you don't know how to play with the clown.

I'm sorry you just play 50% of the game

I don't, i play both killer and survivor, try again.

    If you played more as a killer you would know that the clown is not as bad as you think.

    So now you know what I think?

I just stated and mads it clearl isn't even slightly opened, he's mid tier in my tier list but nothing special

Your mind reads are pretty weak, try again

You are just guessing mate, can you provide some real proof?

Wat

    Wait what??

    Please tell me what you smoke, it must be really good. I have no idea what are you talking about

    Mmh i see, u dont understand.

    The clown is mid tier due to your skills.

    I'm not saying i'm good with the clown, but i've seen clowns keeping the map pressure as good as a billy.

    @Blueberry has over 2K hours and despite the fact that we usually disagree he will tell you that the clown is a good killer as well.

    Good killer isn't mid tier? Wait what?

Dude now I seriously doubt your sanity. Mid tier is the new trash tier? And now what's this Clown as equal as billy, are you okay?

That statement alone is so dumb, okay whatever dude. I really don't know what to tell you if you think one char that have a power nurse like with instadown that can make pressure over the entire map in seconds at the same level as a M1 killer with bottles to slow survivors I don't know what to tell you

I actually won't even talk to you honestly after seeing dozen of posts from you with this kind of flawed logic. You might be rank 20 or just played for less than 2weeks, that might be it, still we cannot agree in anything. When you start thinking then maybe we can have a discussion

Good killer = above mid tier

    Keep it that way mate, i like it when someone is that hostile. Makes me be right.

    Edit: yeah, rank 20 mate, whatever makes you feel better

    Console yikes

    I come from pc dude, what wrong with the console anyway?
    A part from fps and stuff*

    yeah what is wrong with console?

    He's consracism! :(

    Cons(ole) racism
    1.
    Racist to console users

    Btw, I made the word up lol :p
    Shouldn't be consracist then?
  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    o_O

  • alivebydeadight
    alivebydeadight Member Posts: 1,559

    @harley_gibson said:
    I would just like to know why it is that a killer is made with a massive easy to aim large radius gas that greatly slows and disorients players while giving him the fastest killer speed in the game? It makes it crazy easy to catch survivors in chase and gives him such massive control over the match that it's literally not even remotely fair to play against him.

    I'm a rank 1 killer and I use a level 1 clown and still get at least 3 every match. That's ridiculous.

    What are you guy's thoughts?

    OP, OP clown, im sorry but are you playing on xbox one or ps4 cause clown is awful, he is so useless, his bottles are easy to dodge, his add-ons dont help with chase, but throwing them at pallets you can still throw the pallet and 360 him in the gas, he is like playing trapper without using beartraps, but the problem is his thiccness, you can see him from so far

  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    @Vietfox said:
    Malakir said:


    Vietfox said:


    Malakir said:


    Vietfox said:


    Malakir said:


    Vietfox said:


    Malakir said:


    Vietfox said:


    Malakir said:


    Vietfox said:


    Iceman said:

    What do you platform do you play on because I would like to play against you right now. Anyone who plays clown gets an average of 1-2 kills per match. 

    The clown is not op. It is so easy to dodge his bottles. He can still get looped. 

    Wrong, clown is op in the right hands, as it should be.

    Yeah and today in a beautiful green sky when I played DbD I wrecked people by flying with the clown putting jack in the boxes everywhere scaring the living ######### out of people

    I'm sorry you don't know how to play with the clown.

    I'm sorry you just play 50% of the game

    I don't, i play both killer and survivor, try again.
    If you played more as a killer you would know that the clown is not as bad as you think.

    So now you know what I think?

    I just stated and mads it clearl isn't even slightly opened, he's mid tier in my tier list but nothing special

    Your mind reads are pretty weak, try again

    You are just guessing mate, can you provide some real proof?

    Wat
    Wait what??
    Please tell me what you smoke, it must be really good. I have no idea what are you talking about

    Mmh i see, u dont understand.
    The clown is mid tier due to your skills.
    I'm not saying i'm good with the clown, but i've seen clowns keeping the map pressure as good as a billy.
    @Blueberry has over 2K hours and despite the fact that we usually disagree he will tell you that the clown is a good killer as well.

    Good killer isn't mid tier? Wait what?

    Dude now I seriously doubt your sanity. Mid tier is the new trash tier? And now what's this Clown as equal as billy, are you okay?

    That statement alone is so dumb, okay whatever dude. I really don't know what to tell you if you think one char that have a power nurse like with instadown that can make pressure over the entire map in seconds at the same level as a M1 killer with bottles to slow survivors I don't know what to tell you

    I actually won't even talk to you honestly after seeing dozen of posts from you with this kind of flawed logic. You might be rank 20 or just played for less than 2weeks, that might be it, still we cannot agree in anything. When you start thinking then maybe we can have a discussion

    Good killer = above mid tier
    Keep it that way mate, i like it when someone is that hostile. Makes me be right.
    Edit: yeah, rank 20 mate, whatever makes you feel better

    So what's this video for? to show how easy survivor is?

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    MhhBurgers said:

    @Vietfox said:
    Malakir said:


    Vietfox said:


    Malakir said:


    Vietfox said:


    Malakir said:


    Vietfox said:


    Malakir said:


    Vietfox said:


    Malakir said:


    Vietfox said:


    Iceman said:

    What do you platform do you play on because I would like to play against you right now. Anyone who plays clown gets an average of 1-2 kills per match. 

    The clown is not op. It is so easy to dodge his bottles. He can still get looped. 

    Wrong, clown is op in the right hands, as it should be.

    Yeah and today in a beautiful green sky when I played DbD I wrecked people by flying with the clown putting jack in the boxes everywhere scaring the living ######### out of people

    I'm sorry you don't know how to play with the clown.

    I'm sorry you just play 50% of the game

    I don't, i play both killer and survivor, try again.
    If you played more as a killer you would know that the clown is not as bad as you think.

    So now you know what I think?

    I just stated and mads it clearl isn't even slightly opened, he's mid tier in my tier list but nothing special

    Your mind reads are pretty weak, try again

    You are just guessing mate, can you provide some real proof?

    Wat
    Wait what??
    Please tell me what you smoke, it must be really good. I have no idea what are you talking about

    Mmh i see, u dont understand.
    The clown is mid tier due to your skills.
    I'm not saying i'm good with the clown, but i've seen clowns keeping the map pressure as good as a billy.
    @Blueberry has over 2K hours and despite the fact that we usually disagree he will tell you that the clown is a good killer as well.

    Good killer isn't mid tier? Wait what?

    Dude now I seriously doubt your sanity. Mid tier is the new trash tier? And now what's this Clown as equal as billy, are you okay?

    That statement alone is so dumb, okay whatever dude. I really don't know what to tell you if you think one char that have a power nurse like with instadown that can make pressure over the entire map in seconds at the same level as a M1 killer with bottles to slow survivors I don't know what to tell you

    I actually won't even talk to you honestly after seeing dozen of posts from you with this kind of flawed logic. You might be rank 20 or just played for less than 2weeks, that might be it, still we cannot agree in anything. When you start thinking then maybe we can have a discussion

    Good killer = above mid tier
    Keep it that way mate, i like it when someone is that hostile. Makes me be right.
    Edit: yeah, rank 20 mate, whatever makes you feel better

    So what's this video for? to show how easy survivor is?

    @MhhBurgers
    You can also see my rank and how i don't DC because of maps.
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