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Spirit phase walk bug

harley_gibson
harley_gibson Member Posts: 49
in General Discussions

Unless I missed something the spirit seems very bugged right now.

Her phase walk is silent when she's anywhere close to you. I can only hear it from more than 30 meters away.

Also I have no way at all of being able to tell when she's starting a phase walk or standing still. It's impossible to tell with all the passive phasing she does naturally since the phase walk is completely silent.

I thought that the spirit can only have a completely silent phase walk when she uses the ultra rare addon for it.

If this isn't a bug let me know and i'll start using the op spirit more but if it is a bug how quickly can this get fixed?

Comments

  • ReneAensland
    ReneAensland Member Posts: 838

    It was a Patch. You can't hear her Whiffing noise inside her terror radius.

  • harley_gibson
    harley_gibson Member Posts: 49

    You can't tell that she is phasing at all when she's close and you can't even try to loop her because of passive phasing and not having anyway to tell if she is phasing or just standing there. They need to fix that and make it at least somewhat fair because it's currently jacked.

    Not to mention you can't flashlight blind her because the location isn't the same as the other killers and you just need to get lucky for it to even work.

  • PhantomMask20763
    PhantomMask20763 Member Posts: 5,176
    ReneAensland said:

    It's a [BAD WORD] survival game. The choice to be a dumbass is up to the survivor. Whether she's juking you or not.
    It's all mind games.

    She's not OP, she's add-on reliant.
    She's a great killer for someone who knows her mind games. If you see her standing still, don't make yourself visible until you know for sure she's gone.

    This^^^
    He's already said enough 
  • Onionthing
    Onionthing Member Posts: 469

    The old way allowed survivors to loop and avoid her ad-nauseum to the point her power was pointless. Survivors didn't run, they were encouraged to engage. Now this way you don't want to stick around her (as it should be) and get away from her as soon as possible. However i will admit, I'm a Spirit main, so I'm biased about this and I admit it. I think she is in a balance state atm, shes no Billy or Nurse... but shes right there in the Hag/ Clown/ Huntress spot.

  • Mr_Myers
    Mr_Myers Member Posts: 422

    @harley_gibson said:
    why on earth do they think that's even remotely balanced?

    Because it encourages actual skill, plus her heartbeat is smaller compared to normal so by just running you can hear it. just because you can't pallet loop her like every other killer (mostly).

  • I_am_Negan
    I_am_Negan Member Posts: 3,756

    @ReneAensland said:
    It's a [BAD WORD] survival game. The choice to be a dumbass is up to the survivor. Whether she's juking you or not.
    It's all mind games.

    She's not OP, she's add-on reliant.
    She's a great killer for someone who knows her mind games. If you see her standing still, don't make yourself visible until you know for sure she's gone.

    Exactly right here

  • artist
    artist Member Posts: 1,519
    passive phasing is the only thing I have a problem with.  it requires nothing from the player and can get you to mess up a loop. outskilled by the game and not by the actual player
  • harley_gibson
    harley_gibson Member Posts: 49

    @ReneAensland said:
    It's a [BAD WORD] survival game. The choice to be a dumbass is up to the survivor. Whether she's juking you or not.
    It's all mind games.

    She's not OP, she's add-on reliant.
    She's a great killer for someone who knows her mind games. If you see her standing still, don't make yourself visible until you know for sure she's gone.

    Says the spirit main lol

    Look, I can jump on my spirit at rank 1 with low teir 1 perks on her and without a single tunnel, camp, nor noed I can kill at the very least two out of 4 in a sweaty swf group lol. Randoms don't have a chance even with my low tier perks and yellow/brown addons.

    The fact is just because she is standing still you can't assume she's phasing, and there's no way to even know if she started a phase. Even with nurse you can see the animation of her hand charging a blink even if you don't know how far or where she plans to go with it.

    Combine it with the passive phasing, which on ps4 is even worse than pc because of the low frame rate and frame drops, and you literally can't see what she's doing. I was waiting to use dead hard once on a spirit and she phases out with passive phasing and didn't come back into visibility until her swing was finishing and connecting with me giving me no time to dead hard lolz Honestly it's broken af. You might be bias because you have the pleasure of 60fps without massive frame drops but you can't only balance for a single platform.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @artist said:
    passive phasing is the only thing I have a problem with.  it requires nothing from the player and can get you to mess up a loop. outskilled by the game and not by the actual player

    If you'd played Rin you'd know that the player has no idea when it's happening or will happen. It's random and the player has no notification of it.

  • artist
    artist Member Posts: 1,519
    Orion said:

    @artist said:
    passive phasing is the only thing I have a problem with.  it requires nothing from the player and can get you to mess up a loop. outskilled by the game and not by the actual player

    If you'd played Rin you'd know that the player has no idea when it's happening or will happen. It's random and the player has no notification of it.

    yes. and it can still help them whether they know it or not. there is no "mindgame" just a dumb visual effect for spirit that requires 0 effort for it to help the spirit
  • ChesterTheMolester
    ChesterTheMolester Member Posts: 2,771
    edited December 2018
    Oh no, you have to be skilled enough to outsmart a Killer and not just loop.

    The horror
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @artist said:
    yes. and it can still help them whether they know it or not. there is no "mindgame" just a dumb visual effect for spirit that requires 0 effort for it to help the spirit

    How can it help the Spirit if they don't know it's happening? It's just a visual effect, like you said. You can adjust to it, like you adjust to hook bubbles.

  • artist
    artist Member Posts: 1,519
    Orion said:

    @artist said:
    yes. and it can still help them whether they know it or not. there is no "mindgame" just a dumb visual effect for spirit that requires 0 effort for it to help the spirit

    How can it help the Spirit if they don't know it's happening? It's just a visual effect, like you said. You can adjust to it, like you adjust to hook bubbles.

    it helps the spirit because it causes confusion to the survivor. you dont know if they're doubling black or continuing the same way making you either hesitate or continue the same way, one or the other might cause you to get hit (again, passive phasing is not controlled by the player, the game messes with you, not the player). and what do hook bubbles have to do with this? i never ended up dying because the game tells me som1 has been hooked.
  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671

    I'd just like the spirit to be a little less addon dependent, I think she's in a good spot. She feels like one of the most fair killers to go against for me. It's a battle of the mindgames and if I got hit it's because I actually got outplayed.

    Even if you especially find her annoying she can be countered quite easily with perks like Premonition, Spine Chill and Iron Will.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @artist said:
    it helps the spirit because it causes confusion to the survivor. you dont know if they're doubling black or continuing the same way making you either hesitate or continue the same way, one or the other might cause you to get hit (again, passive phasing is not controlled by the player, the game messes with you, not the player). and what do hook bubbles have to do with this? i never ended up dying because the game tells me som1 has been hooked.

    Just keep running. Chances are slim that they're turning around at the exact moment that a random and passive effect activated.
    If you've never been caught because you can't see the Killer thanks to the hook bubble, you should play the lottery. That thing is more of a hindrance than anything.

  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    You can't hear her phase walk when inside her tr, prayer beads addon makes it silent outside tr as well, the sound of phasing outside tr is not directional and you can't tell from her stance when she activates her ability. They patched this a long time ago