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Is a Killer's Lullaby a outdated mechanic that should be removed?
Just curious what do you guys think, imo The Huntress 40 Meters lullaby is an outdated mechanic that should get reworked. 2016-2017 was an era where Survivors didn't know how to loop and needed warning because maybe there's an incoming projectile.
Edit: corrected the Radius of Huntress lullaby, Thanks to the ones to pointed it out.
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Trickster and Sadako have completely unjustifiable lullabies.
Huntress has a fine one, though. Plus, it's iconic to her and it'd be plain disorientation to play as/against her without it.
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Trickster and Sadako should not have lullaby, both killers are already so weak.
Freddy's lullaby is helping him actually. It always confuses me when i play against him. So i think he is okey.
But Huntress? No. She is already strong killer and her lullaby makes her fair.
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I'm fine with trickster having a lullaby. Everything that might discourage people from playing him is welcome :)
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I'm fine with tricksters lullaby, I can understand why killers with strong chase powers have them
The sadako lullaby even tho hard to hear is completely uneccesary especially on the legit worst killer in the game
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BHVR just should rework him. His power is weaker Huntress and boring. Huntress is limited with hatches and that's makes her fun to play against. Both sides can outplay each other.
But Trickster? Just hug wall and run. You will down and just waste him all time on you. So he will lose generators.
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Only sadako lullaby makes no sense, the others should stay
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I swear Huntress' lullaby is only 45m?
And no, I think that in most cases they are entirely justified. Freddy, Huntress, and Trickster all deserve the lullaby for different reasons.
Freddy deserves it because lore and it actually makes him better. The lack of approaching TR is better than the Lullaby, though honestly a 24m Lullaby wouldn't be an unwelcome change.
Trickster and Huntress both have very strong chase powers, and so are helpfully counterbalanced by the advance warning. We've seen what happens with a ranged killer that doesn't have a lullaby, and that was Slinger, who became famously known as the best stealth killer in the game. He was unfun to deal with, and M&A was nearing unfair. Instead of giving him a lullaby though, they just butchered him. RIP Slinger.
Also Sadako. It doesn't really affect her whatsoever because it's so quiet but does she really need it?
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Huntress's makes sense
The other not so much... there are pros and cons to them as pointed out by others
Also Huntress's Lullaby is only 40M (give or take) not 64M
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I'll say that by now not hearing it from Huntress would be really strange and empty, same for Freddy.
I'm a bit on the fence regarding Trickster's lullaby. On the one hand I get why he has it, but 40 meters feels a tad big for him.
Sadako's feels unnecessary, or unnecessarily large anyway. It's basically her "breathing", but it kinda defeats the point of her being undetectable when its the exact same range as her TR.
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I mean, I'd argue that killers with quicker/more powerful anti-loop don't have lullabies and warning you that he's coming is what the terror radius is for.
I figured the Huntress lullaby was because there was a very real possibility you were going to get hit outside her terror radius. There's basically no hope of that happening with Trickster.
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lullaby as mechanic is designed to make terror radius perks not work on said killers. For all intensive purposes, all lullaby can be convert into normal heartbeat+chase music, huntress chase music being the song.
with that being said, is huntress with 0 terror radius unfair? I mean she has that purple add-on called wooden fox. it gives you 30 seconds of undetectable. it seems bvhr maybe want huntress to be able to use terror radius perks with such an add-on.
I'd say huntress lullaby is as outdated as all other killers with lullaby despite huntress being pretty good killer. Freddy, Trickster and Sadako having lullaby just actively hurt their perk variety. I would agree with the mechanic being outdated.
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Barely any mention of Freddy :(
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I don’t know about the others but Sadako having a lullaby is odd, she’s the only Undetectable stealth killer that has one.
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Freddy could use bigger and 3D lullaby, he's fast killer and can get close to you and there no difference in lullaby to notice the difference.
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Sadako having one is ridiculous. Might as well give pig one*
*please don't
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I think you could make a case for getting rid of Sadako's, but everyone else is fine.
Huntress absolutely needs one, and Freddy's is one of the few things that makes him, well, Freddy. There's so little about that character that seems uniquely connected to his license that I would not want them to get rid of the lullaby.
I think instead of increasing Deathslinger's TR they should have given him a lullaby tbh.
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Since Huntress can hit hatchets outside her TR, the lullaby makes sense to have imo. Plus, as others have said, hers is very iconic and distinct.
Trickster actually has a very unique lullaby in the sense that it is donut shaped, meaning the terror radius begins just around the time the lullaby ends. This means he can be used with TR perks to confuse survivors. I've got the jump on some survivors using Monitor and Abuse or Plaything on him.
Arguably Huntress is the same way. When you do not hear the TR, you expect her to be farther so TR perks can work on her as well, but arguably less useful.
Freddy's lullaby helps him out a lot since anyone that hears it cannot judge how far or close he is which is neat for an m1 killer (also very iconic on him). Some people say the oblivious effect hinders his perk variety, however, but I personally think it is okay.
The Sadako one just confuses me since the lullaby makes her less stealthy since you know she is near.
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Every killer that has a lullaby is weak (Huntress, Trickster, Sadako and Deathslinger with his 40 meters terror radius), they might as well remove this concept entirely since none of them have a catch up mechanic (except for Sadako) and it is really easy to just hold forward against them whenever you start hearing the lullaby.
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Trickster and Sadako have unnecessary lullabies. Huntress's is fine though and it would be kind of weird playing against her without it. Plus it's part of her lore.
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huntress needs hers. It’s part of her. Onryo doesn’t need one. Neither does trickster. I hate trickster.
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Trickster and Sadako ones are unnecesary.
Trckster is very bad when shooting from medium and long distances (24 metres or more) so he don't need that handicap.
Sadako is a stealthy killer and don't have ranged attacks...
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I'd cry if they ever removed Freddy's. May as well delete him at that point.
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If you removed huntresses lullaby you would pretty much kill the identity of the killer
that's like removing laughing from doctor or deathslinger
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Lullaby of huntress should be non-directional even more
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It's been non directonal for like 3 years now?
I think around patch 3.0.0 they made all lullabies non directonal
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oh, good, reduce her terror radius then.
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With 20 meters her TR is the smallest in the game. Do you mean her lullaby’s range?
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