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Thoughts on the new update?
Greetings survivors, killers, and both-siders of the Fog! I hope this thread finds you doing well.
So, today was the big day, eh? New update dropping, Dead Hard nerfed (FINALLY), Thanatophobia buffed, Legion and Plague apocalypse, bla bla bla...Originally, my plan was to take a good look at those red backgrounds, even if they are a VERY poor excuse of a reward and immediately close the game.
But...
Each Forum post here was more confusing than the other, and 95% of them had a complaint of sorts (which is not unusual, but still...) and it was getting a bit difficult to catch up. So I decided to wake up my inner GLaDOS and put my differences with current DBD behind us...for science.
And well...the result was interesting.
Now, I didn't play MANY trials, because everyone knows I can't stand current DBD for long periods of time, especially if I am by myself, but I did get to see most of the stuff that got changed. And imma just say it right now: there was an impact.
Those changes definitely made an impact.
The DH nerf easily takes the spotlight on this one, and it is such a good change that now I REALLY wish the devs had the same idea back in 2017, when they designed the perk or a few weeks after its release. This had to be done, and in a perfect scenario it would have been done a long time ago.
There is also an odd absence of Decisive Strike...really, in the spam of a few matches I believe I only saw it twice. I don't think the 3-seconds stun time is a terrible change, mostly because DS actually worked like that in the past. Whether or not this perk has been killed remains to be seen.
Now, as for the killer buffs...I have some mixed feelings towards them. I get why they did it, especially with the "Hold W Meta" (which is a stupid thing, btw), but I believe they could have buffed Brutal Strength and Fire Up instead. As for the elephant in the room...
Thanatophobia...
It has always been one of my favorite perks and seeing it finally buffed felt good. I used it on all of my games, and its usefulness is clear. Paired with gens taking longer, and Legion and Plague being...ya know, I can see this perk being a part of the "new meta", if we can even call it that way.
But, at the same time, there is some damage to be taken into consideration. Things seem to have gotten a bit rough for Solo Queue, even more so than they already were. Look, I strongly believe that the difficulty level of playing solo survivor was not as scary as some people made it out to be, mostly based on my experiences with solo q from 2018 until leaving the Fog.
But now... This update hasn't been kind to it, and I would not be surprised if there are complaints on the way.
Overall, I believe this patch did a few things which were needed...and many which were not, and perhaps even more so than most patches in DBD's recent history. I don't get why they nerfed BBQ, Ruin, Self-Care, and many others. If the objective truly was changing the meta, there are better ways to do it.
But then again, remember that everything you just read are the words of an old dog, one that no longer cares, plays...or even recognizes the game which he used to love.
And you, dear reader? What do you think of the changes released today?
I will be more than happy to read them!
-Signed by GeneralV, the Master of Old DBD.
P.S: If you would like to see my build for the day, here it is:
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Been playing solo survivor just about all day and outside of thana legion/plague and overcharge, it feels like the game is in a better spot.
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In a general sense much better
certain issues are a bit more of a problem but I think with time they'll be rectified
I'm gonna try my hand at some killer soon, I'm optimistic about it since DH has always been a thorn in my side
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DH should have been put down long ago.
That was a good change.
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The new update rocks!!!
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You know how it feels after playing 984594859485 matches as a nurse, and finally you can enjoy and rest with M1 stealthy killers.
Heaven is real. =3
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Positive opinions?
On the Forums?
Impossible...
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I'm jealous of your Bloody Freddy skin.
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Not that bad but facecamp is pretty strong right now, without BBQ killers are even more campy and hook timers are kinda short it's not very punishing to just camp your first hook
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Oh...thank you!
My beloved Freddy <3, my main ever since I first started playing DBD, back in 2018.
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They shouldn't have changed BBQ, tbh.
It causes nothing but problems, and that change definitely wasn't needed.
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Game is a lot better now. Finally.
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w o w
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Some of the changes were good, ngl.
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bUt TEH gRinDInG wAS REDuCED.
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That Freddy is so rare, he's gorgeous...
An actual Freddy main, dude your worth is golden. OO
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Heh, that was a very poor excuse.
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Really liking the new update, with the new progression update I currently have every teachable on both survivor and killer, the AoT skins are pretty cool and once I have the money I'm buying Kenny, and the new meta shake up is definitely going to change how I play.
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Oh my...thank you so much :)
Throughout my DBD journey I have been a Freddy main, ever since I first started playing the game.
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That is good.
Life in this game is easier when the changes align with what you want.
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lol, I know. They talk about meta, yet it's bad enough on Switch to have a single person running Boil Over, Flip-Flop, Unbreakable, and whatever that other perk was. Takes decent time to down the surv., then they just boil over, or the flashlights help them if it's a clicky SWF squad (usually I'd run lightborn when I see a couple flashlights, but they switch last moment, so)
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Hadn't played since Pin Head released. I only did 1 match of solo survivor. That's nothing to go off of but here's what I noticed. Clown's map, killer was Nemmy, decked out perks, everyone escaped. The one Steve who was getting downed really quick and nearly tunneled out of the game had 2200 hours of playtime. Just how? How do you play that much and suck so bad? Even if you play killer for all that time you would know the tricks of the trade because you deal with them on a regular basis.
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If there is one thing we learned about BHVR, is that you can never expect good things, no matter how promising they are.
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Yea its truly nice to see. I pray that Freddy gets a rework that makes him feel good to play for your sake.
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One of the worst DBD players I have ever seen was a legit Legacy Dwight.
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Good point.
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Thank you, my friend :)
The support is very appreciated!
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Lucky you ;)
Being able to enjoy DBD is a good feeling, eh?
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Most of the changes are good. But the 90 second gens+buffed slowdowns feel dreadful on the survivor side. The pacing is so bad.
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Yeah, that is what I feared. Solo Queue wasn't lucky this time.
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Well don't forget it only for those who using slowdowns such as penti or thana. They didn't touched other slowdown perks so it's the same, aside from nerfed ones.
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Also an old player just new here I personally love the update I just wish they did some changes on the other perks that are bad like deer stalker or this is not happening.
The update is great except for a few of the perk nerfs that made them useless like the self-care and ruin nerf I hope they get new effects no be more in line with the current perks. Because yeah they nerfed good perks that could/has been problematic but left them to be useless and under used like the perks they buffed
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I've been very tempted to reinstall the game and see if I can still bully Killers into DCing. With all the doom and gloom going around, I kinda want to see if it's just cry babies crying like babies or if it's actually that much harder now.
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Oh, a fellow old player? Well, good to meet ya, friend!
I understand your points here and, looking exclusively at those new changes, I would say I agree.
DH definitely required a nerf.
With that attitude, I hope you don't reinstall.
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I'm joking.
I DO want to see if it's harder to loop Killers, as that's what I mostly did, and I want to see if things are as hard as people say. I also DO think that some people might be blowing it out of proportion. I honestly don't know, though, and have thought about checking it out.
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As a solo queue, it's been honestly some of the worst experience I've ever had playing this game.
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Good.
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Idk if luck was secretly buffed, or if I'm just really lucky, but with T3 PLunderer's, I got 2 Purple rarity flashlights and 1 Purple rarity med-kit in a single match (no luck offerings played). Kinda rEdOnkUloUs in my opinion.
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Feels very strange that the only decent regression perks - Call of Brine, Eruption, and Pain Res - are all locked on very recent killers, two of which are licensed and not available with shards. Feels even worse that two out of the three require you to physically go and kick the gen, something most killers don't have the time for.
Even if Overcharge hadn't been nerfed on the PTR, it too would've been a kick perk. Pain Res still hits for the same amount but it's hard to say if it's still worth it (and that's if you even have the perk in the first place).
Hard to say but after five matches as killer I'm feeling very weak. The extra 10 seconds on generators does not feel worth losing Ruin and Pop.
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Yeah, I was afraid this could happen.
Solo Queue wasn't lucky this time and while some people seem to be blowing it out of proportion, the situation doesn't seem to be that good, either.
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Hmmm, that is an unusual point.
Very few people have deemed killers "weak" after this update.
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Over charge is also good I question the 75% starting regression but pop is always an alternative worse than what is used to be but can have value
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Very true. Pentimento could be cleaned up a bit by swapping the token logic so the gen speed debuff doesn't kick in until 2 or 3. Or they could dial back the percentages. And funnily enough, Thana would probably be healthier at its original release values of 16%. It's BHVR's way of forcing survivors to be less cavalier with map resources, but making gens longer to compensate for map design issues doesn't feel like the way to go.
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The "numerous people" who feel killers are strong, wouldn't happen to be survivor mains, would they?
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I don't think so.
Most likely both-siders, as most Forum members are.
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Impossible to say who plays what, and everyone has vastly differing experiences depending on their region, skill bracket, or even just time of day. There's next to no balance in this game - MMR is a joke even in a vanilla lobby, but it doesn't take SWF or items or addons or offerings into consideration and every game is just wildly in one side's favor or the other. That's the way it's been for 6 years and it doesn't seem like it'll change.
I wish BHVR would just permaban me in-game so I would never again be tempted to play this miserable game.
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If you are not enjoying the game, just leave. It is not hard.
DBD was no longer the same game I fell in love with back in 2018, so I left. Only played it today because I wanted to see what the commotion was about.
Trust me, if you are not having fun...leave.
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I play both but when I play survivor it's mostly solo queue. Because all of my friends hated the game and quit.
Solo queue is significantly worse now. As a lone player, you now have less impact than you did before. I played 3 or 4 games tonight and on 3 of them, the killer just decided to camp. All of them had at least 2 slowdown perks, despite the gens being slower in general now. It was honestly awful. People are just tunneling and camping after 1 gen gets popped. DS is useless and the base kit BT is only meaningful if you're getting sandbagged by your "teammates."
Still nothing to punish camping or tunneling killers. Just pause the damn hook timer if the killer is too close so that they're forced to leave.
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I don't think you understand my man, saying "just stop playing" is like telling a sad person "just don't be sad bro." I wish it were just as easy as "just stop playing."
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I honestly hate this update so far. Games are so slow and dragged out. i had 2 40 min matches today. nerfing off meta perks made no sense to me. Spine chill and Selfcare didnt need a nerf and removing Bloodpoint bonuses from perks on both sides just annoyed me but dont worry they fixed the smoke from Bills cigarette to line up perfectly so atleast we got that. All I saw today was Overcharge, Pop, SH:GoP and Thana for 8 straight matches. Ive played this game since day 1 release and I feel every year it gets further and further away from an actually balanced game
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No DH dash alone makes the game 100% better.
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