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Camping Fix

I think survivors unhooking others should not be grab-able and hitting them with stuff like a chainsaw should put them in deep-wound status since killers even after all these nerfs will still be totally OP it shouldn't hurt them at all.

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  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758
    Would be too OP no dying state is enough
  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
    Are you joking?

    How should we know without a LOL button?

  • LuminousGloom
    LuminousGloom Member Posts: 9

    Killers protecting hooks is completely balanced. If you're referring to killers face camping a survivor purely to screw over that specific survivor with no benefit, then there's nothing overpowered about that. Killers that do that won't pip.

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    Baited.^^

  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    Killers protecting hooks is completely balanced. If you're referring to killers face camping a survivor purely to screw over that specific survivor with no benefit, then there's nothing overpowered about that. Killers that do that won't pip.

    These killers welcome the depip most of the time. Punishing them would probably be giving them a doublepip.
  • ad19970
    ad19970 Member Posts: 6,424

    I'm all for nerfing camping. But making unsafe unkhooks even easier I don't believe is the way to go. I think the best fix for the beginning is adding kindred Tier 3 to the base kit of survivors, which will also get rid of the biggest advantage swf survivors have over solo survivors. Just that the radius in which the killers aura is shown should be 16 or 20 meters at the beginning, and even grow the longer the survivor is hooked, up until a 28 meter radius.

  • BigBadPiggy
    BigBadPiggy Member Posts: 678

    Camping is a strategy (A trashy one but a strategy non the less) and there is nothing you can do to change that.

    Plus It's unbelievably easy to punish a killer who is camping. If the killer is camping, GO DO GENS FOR ######### SAKE!! You all are treating camping like it's on the highest pedestal of evil when in reality it isn't. Stop acting like all four survivors are going to die because the killer is camping. you have PLENTY of time to do the gens while the killer is at the hook, so go do the generators.

    Same with hatch stand offs.If you know the killer is camping the hatch, crouch around and do the remaining gens.

    It's NOT that complicated.

  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    edited December 2018
    Ask and ye shall receive.
  • alivebydeadight
    alivebydeadight Member Posts: 1,559

    @MhhBurgers said:
    I think survivors unhooking others should not be grab-able and hitting them with stuff like a chainsaw should put them in deep-wound status since killers even after all these nerfs will still be totally OP it shouldn't hurt them at all.

    uhhh, your a survivor main are you, I can tell because your talking about the chainsaw being to op pretty much

  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    edited December 2018

    @MhhBurgers said:
    I think survivors unhooking others should not be grab-able and hitting them with stuff like a chainsaw should put them in deep-wound status since killers even after all these nerfs will still be totally OP it shouldn't hurt them at all.

    uhhh, your a survivor main are you, I can tell because your talking about the chainsaw being to op pretty much

    If you look at any of his other posts, you can see he's a salty killer that's just throwing a tantrum over the new changes.
  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    edited December 2018
    Exhibit A:
    @MhhBurgers said:

    I won't play killer this entire patch at all and probably many others will do the same with these insane survivor buffs.

    Devs nerfed camping.
    REEEEE CIV 5
  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    @Visionmaker said:
    Exhibit A:

    @MhhBurgers said: I won't play killer this entire patch at all and probably many others will do the same with these insane survivor buffs.

    Devs nerfed camping.

    REEEEE CIV 5

    And what did they give killers in return? Ah yes, more nerfs. The survivor escape-rate was already way to high considering they do not even need to escape to win in the first place.

  • DwightsLifeMatters
    DwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,649
    Kindred basekit -> genrush the living ######### out of this killer -> killer ends with 1k at best 
  • ReneAensland
    ReneAensland Member Posts: 838

    I wouldn't mind the Kindred basekit.
    I honestly wouldn't mind your maybe click bait argument.
    I don't camp. I don't tunnel.

    None of these changes affect me.

  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    @Visionmaker said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @Visionmaker said:

    MhhBurgers said:

    @Visionmaker said:
    
    Exhibit A:
    

    @MhhBurgers said: I won't play killer this entire patch at all and probably many others will do the same with these insane survivor buffs. Devs nerfed camping.

    REEEEE CIV 5



    And what did they give killers in return? Ah yes, more nerfs. The survivor escape-rate was already way to high considering they do not even need to escape to win in the first place.



    Lol

    It's funny because almost every patch this year has had killer buffs in it, one minor change to a perk and they start kicking up tantrums.

    Killer will and always will be easy, while it isn't as easy as Survivor it's still not an arduous task to get kills and pip.

    The self-entitled victim main trope rears its ugly head once again.

    Always with the "but what do I get?! " Meanwhile they'd be foaming at the mouth if the roles were reversed. I have no words for this.

    Completely ignoring that EVERY streamer says that survivor is way easier to play than killer and that killer is way more stressfull but kay.

  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    edited December 2018
    "DEVS MADE CAMPING SLIGHTLY HARDER, DEVS ARE KILLING KILLERS"
    You're just proving my point. What a joooke.
  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    @ReneAensland said:
    I wouldn't mind the Kindred basekit.
    I honestly wouldn't mind your maybe click bait argument.
    I don't camp. I don't tunnel.

    None of these changes affect me.

    So survivors are allowed to play toxic and killers aren't? Because that's what they're doing right now. Removing all ability of the killers to play toxic unless we go for the hard to play killers.

  • ReneAensland
    ReneAensland Member Posts: 838

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @ReneAensland said:
    I wouldn't mind the Kindred basekit.
    I honestly wouldn't mind your maybe click bait argument.
    I don't camp. I don't tunnel.

    None of these changes affect me.

    So survivors are allowed to play toxic and killers aren't? Because that's what they're doing right now. Removing all ability of the killers to play toxic unless we go for the hard to play killers.

    I play toxic as well. Whenever I know I'm getting a Brutal Rank and I won't depip from 1, I, as Amanda, play extremely toxic.
    I t-bag.
    I slug.
    I camp around the slugged survivor to scare others.
    I chase without hitting.
    I body block.
    I t-bag while body blocking.

    At the end, 1 dies and 3 escape and I leave laughing.
    Everyone gets their points, every survivor pips.

  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    @alivebydeadight said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Visionmaker said:
    Exhibit A:

    @MhhBurgers said: I won't play killer this entire patch at all and probably many others will do the same with these insane survivor buffs.

    Devs nerfed camping.

    REEEEE CIV 5

    And what did they give killers in return? Ah yes, more nerfs. The survivor escape-rate was already way to high considering they do not even need to escape to win in the first place.

    im sorry, did devs show that most survivors dont escape the trial, even shown a chart that had little to no survivors escaping the trial

    Source or it didn't happen.

  • alivebydeadight
    alivebydeadight Member Posts: 1,559

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @alivebydeadight said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Visionmaker said:
    Exhibit A:

    @MhhBurgers said: I won't play killer this entire patch at all and probably many others will do the same with these insane survivor buffs.

    Devs nerfed camping.

    REEEEE CIV 5

    And what did they give killers in return? Ah yes, more nerfs. The survivor escape-rate was already way to high considering they do not even need to escape to win in the first place.

    im sorry, did devs show that most survivors dont escape the trial, even shown a chart that had little to no survivors escaping the trial

    Source or it didn't happen.

    wait let me open the dev stream that started most posts like this

  • alivebydeadight
    alivebydeadight Member Posts: 1,559

    @not_Queen was it one of the other devs or you that showed us the escape rate of survivors, I seen the dc rate but not escape rate and I know you guys talked about it

  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    Either way it doesn't change the fact that the only char that can outplay survivors consistently is the nurse and maybe the spirit and billy, the others cannot. Most of the kills I get on these chars at r1 is basically from survivors ######### up (or let's be honest be too bored to stay in a match with me)

  • alivebydeadight
    alivebydeadight Member Posts: 1,559

    @MhhBurgers said:
    Either way it doesn't change the fact that the only char that can outplay survivors consistently is the nurse and maybe the spirit and billy, the others cannot. Most of the kills I get on these chars at r1 is basically from survivors [BAD WORD] up (or let's be honest be too bored to stay in a match with me)

    from what I have been seeing you are salty about changes to perk so survivors being bored in a match with you may be a sign that you are too easy to face, thats a problem and several other killers can mindgame/outplay survivors, wraith, trapper, hag, doctor, myers, leatherface can a little, pig can, freddy cannot without pill bottle, clown can, and right now even legion can, actually named all of the killers actually

  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758
    edited December 2018

    rofl me too easy, me proxycamping hooks is boring but I'm not a streamer, if you unhook in front of me I'm gonna tunnel the guy who just got unhooked, it's called playing efficient. This thread is sarcasm but mark my words, bhvr is also gonna make unhooking safer in the future.

    Mindgaming only works on certain maps, since Cornfields is the most selected map in the game you're ######### out of lock more than 50% of the time when it comes to trying to mindgame.

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @SenzuDuck said:

    It's funny because almost every patch this year has had killer buffs in it, one minor change to a perk status and they start kicking up tantrums.

    Killer will and always will be easy, while it isn't as easy as Survivor it's still not an arduous task to get kills and pip.

    Here we go again… an entitled survivor main turning a blind eye on any killer nerf and survivor buff.
    One buff to one side doesn't mean anything if there are 2 nerfs in the very same patch.

  • ReneAensland
    ReneAensland Member Posts: 838

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    It's funny because almost every patch this year has had killer buffs in it, one minor change to a perk status and they start kicking up tantrums.

    Killer will and always will be easy, while it isn't as easy as Survivor it's still not an arduous task to get kills and pip.

    Here we go again… an entitled survivor main turning a blind eye on any killer nerf and survivor buff.
    One buff to one side doesn't mean anything if there are 2 nerfs in the very same patch.

    What exactly am I supposedly entitled to?
    Simple fact is, Borrowed time is a counter to campers + tunnelers. It's so incredibly easy as a camping killer to hit the unhooker and hit them again, you still get a hook but you're so upset about the injured survivor getting away and having a chance at surviving.

    Why is it so hard to understand that people are actually competent enough to win without camping? As someone who plays killer and can reach rank one without camping the entire rebellion around Borrowed Time changes are absolutely lost on me because no one has to play like that at all.

    Oh survivor main btw

    Daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn!

    Why is it so hard to understand that people are actually competent enough to win without camping? As someone who plays killer and can reach rank one without camping the entire rebellion around Borrowed Time changes are absolutely lost on me because no one has to play like that at all.
    Agreed. 100effing%.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Visionmaker said:
    Exhibit A:

    @MhhBurgers said: I won't play killer this entire patch at all and probably many others will do the same with these insane survivor buffs.

    Devs nerfed camping.

    REEEEE CIV 5

    And what did they give killers in return? Ah yes, more nerfs. The survivor escape-rate was already way to high considering they do not even need to escape to win in the first place.

    im sorry, did devs show that most survivors dont escape the trial, even shown a chart that had little to no survivors escaping the trial

    Lol you're wasting your time. No matter how often they're presented with this evidence they downplay it or start making excuses.

    Look how hes already doing it by saying its only certain killers. There are stats from earlier in the year that show its pretty consistent across all killers.
  • Onionthing
    Onionthing Member Posts: 469

    They should get rid of hooks and killers. Replace them with Blackjack.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526
    edited December 2018

    @CrowS said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Visionmaker said:
    MhhBurgers said:

    @Visionmaker said:

    Exhibit A:

    @MhhBurgers said: I won't play killer this entire patch at all and probably many others will do the same with these insane survivor buffs.
    
    Devs nerfed camping.
    

    REEEEE CIV 5

    And what did they give killers in return? Ah yes, more nerfs. The survivor escape-rate was already way to high considering they do not even need to escape to win in the first place.

    Lol

    It's funny because almost every patch this year has had killer buffs in it, one minor change to a perk status and they start kicking up tantrums.

    Killer will and always will be easy, while it isn't as easy as Survivor it's still not an arduous task to get kills and pip.

    Translation: "I don't play Killer at all."

    Not as easy as survivor? Lol!

    Yea, I don't play killer at all, clearly.

  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    The point is that this change affects killers who want to play in a toxic way, I don't give a crap if I'm winning a match, I won a match if the SWF feels like their time was cheated away from them.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526

    @MhhBurgers said:
    The point is that this change affects killers who want to play in a toxic way, I don't give a crap if I'm winning a match, I won a match if the SWF feels like their time was cheated away from them.

    and that's fine if you want to play like that, but don't cry when there are changes to balance this.

  • Yoonz
    Yoonz Member Posts: 66

    If you still think Killers / Survivors need changes and not maps at this point, you should uninstall your game. Both sides are well balanced at the moment.

  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    @Yoonz said:
    If you still think Killers / Survivors need changes and not maps at this point, you should uninstall your game. Both sides are well balanced at the moment.

    They won't balance the maps, if they wanted to they would've already. Not making the Corn-Twalls see-through is not a hard thing to do.

  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @MhhBurgers said:
    The point is that this change affects killers who want to play in a toxic way, I don't give a crap if I'm winning a match, I won a match if the SWF feels like their time was cheated away from them.

    and that's fine if you want to play like that, but don't cry when there are changes to balance this.

    Meanwhile survivors get to keep all of their toxic crap like SWFs and teabagging at the exitgate with no repercussion because BHVR thinks money is more important than integrity.

  • Yoonz
    Yoonz Member Posts: 66

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Yoonz said:
    If you still think Killers / Survivors need changes and not maps at this point, you should uninstall your game. Both sides are well balanced at the moment.

    They won't balance the maps, if they wanted to they would've already. Not making the Corn-Twalls see-through is not a hard thing to do.

    Because they also never wanted to make dedicated servers available. But that happened. And they never wanted a Clown Killer. And that happened too. Stop.

  • artist
    artist Member Posts: 1,519

    Killers protecting hooks is completely balanced. If you're referring to killers face camping a survivor purely to screw over that specific survivor with no benefit, then there's nothing overpowered about that. Killers that do that won't pip.

    not my pip anything but my pip oh noooooooo
  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @MhhBurgers said:
    The point is that this change affects killers who want to play in a toxic way, I don't give a crap if I'm winning a match, I won a match if the SWF feels like their time was cheated away from them.

    and that's fine if you want to play like that, but don't cry when there are changes to balance this.

    Meanwhile survivors get to keep all of their toxic crap like SWFs and teabagging at the exitgate with no repercussion because BHVR thinks money is more important than integrity.

    I don't need to dodge SWF, I don't have an issue with them, it's clearly the way you play.
    Also, anyone that complains about T-Bagging is just beyond helping, just walk towards the survivor and they'll leave lol.

    SWF was always intended, so was comms, so is tbagging, so is tunneling & camping.

    SWF is still a ######### miserable feeling, I don't even give a ######### if I 4k these ppl so it has nothing to do with playstyle, heck SWFs most of the time are probably easier if you want to play cheesy/campy because they will try stupid ######### to have fun beyond holding down M1.

    It's just a ######### miserable feeling that SWF are sitting there having fun with 3 other ppl while ur sitting there alone and even the game doesn't favor you.