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How do you play pig without addons?
Alright so I have bought a PC and decided to start playing DBD, after playing the game back in 2020 on PS4. Since migrating accounts cross-platform isn't possible (seriously BHVR why blya** can you not just implement it) I have virtually nothing on my account, apart from the few bloodpoints i've earned in like 50 hours of playing.
Now, as my daily rituals demand it, i landed 4 succesful dash attacks on survivors (what a boring challenge btw) and while doing that on pig i wondered - how do you play this killer without addons.
I see at least 1 irredescent addon every game from survivors, mostly bnp, sometimes the syringe thingy while i run yellow / brown addons and green / yellow perks (I have invested my points into other killers mostly and have prestiged only 2 so far) and the games i did where unplayable. It is impossible to gain any pressure on the survivors, my first down is usually a trade for 2-3 gens and then as soon as i get the next chase the next gen pops and i maybe get a 2nd or 3rd down and then all gens are done and they are woosh trough the gates.
So how can i stop surivors from camping at gens and at strong loops if i can't pressure them?
The answer is obvious if you have all rescources you need, just use video tape and maybe an addon that decreases the death timer or Ruleset No. 2 and you have a decent shot at winning games. On the right map, you might even get 4Ks without too much struggle, but what do you do without good addons
you get little downs, you get little chance to put down traps, traps get removed easily and aren't consistent because of rng and your sneaky power makes you so slow that before you can even sneak up on people the survivors have finished 6 gens and opened 3 exit gates - also the dash is pretty unfun because it takes insane time to even begin charging and crouching as pig is insanely risky + you can't see because amanda young decides its best to walk with her head so blya** low that it's literally on the ground.
so, any insane pig mains in the chat who wanna share some tips to play pig without video tape?
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I'd say just play stealthy at first... getting one dash attack that lands is good enough (4 games like that and it's done)
Also you can use combat straps (speeds up crouching and standing up) and one of the other dash attack addons (a % speed increase on the dash attack)
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Try using her dash as an anti-loop (even though it is weak and all survivors can do is just leave the loop). No point in using dash during stealth, might as well just uncrouch and attack. Use bag of gears and tampered timer add ons together, you can get a head pop using it, just crouch and look away to end chase, but keep following and harrassing the survivor off jigsaw boxes while their trap is activated. I think your main issue is you can't get those traps on quick, for that you will have to be quick with downs, pig is an M1 killer after all.
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it's pig, she just sucks addons or not so either you still wanna play her and you can get over her weakness or you find a better killer.
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I've played a LOT of Pig since I started in 2020 (also on the PS4 at the time). I probably have several thousand hours in DBD now, made it to Rank 1 with her before they changed the ranking system while maining her, and I've beaten really good survivors with her before and since MMR was implemented. I'm not the best Pig in the world (and wouldn't claim to be by any stretch), but when people say she's one of the weakest killers on the roster, I have to definitely, politlely, disagree, since the large majority of the matches I play with her, I come out on top (and did so even before the recent update).
So, how to play her effectively? You're going to need some form of slowdown in addition to your traps. I have two builds I play with her now, both utilizing different strategies. One build utilizes Corrupt, which is still an important perk, as that will allow you to stealth in the early game to get an early hit on an unaware survivor and get into an early chase and get a down before the first gen pops. I run Pain Resonance with that build, but the kicker for it is Hex: Plaything -- it adds another objective for a trapped survivor to have to deal with, and if they don't (and if their teammates don't), you'll have Oblivious survivors running around. Plaything ALWAYS gives me at least a free hit (or down) on a survivor, a lot of times on one headed to a box or injured searching one (even when I'm chasing someone else when it happens). It's an underrated perk in general, and very good on her, IMO. I run the Face Mask add-on (a yellow) to make trapped survivors blind, which means they can't see their totem aura until they get their trap off -- it's a nasty combo.
Pig is NOT subject to RNG anymore with her traps -- if you're not using anything for add-ons, you're guaranteed 12 total searches so long as you get all four traps on (you don't want to save traps -- that only means you're risking having a trap give you no value if gens suddenly start to fly), and that means the game is going to stall mid-game, so long as you're constantly applying pressure through downs and hooks. A couple of early gens popping is NOT the end of the world -- I've had a lot of 4K's that had 3 gens done relatively quickly and then -- nothing. Keeping pressure going -- and having at least one regression perk is going to be needed (again, I use Pain Resonance on both of my builds, as it's the best perk for slowing gens that doesn't require you to kick them -- Call of Brine can be paired up with it for those games where RNG is bad for hook spawns, or for when you want to get info on where survivors have started back up on a gen).
Stealth is VERY situational with her -- I use it only at the start of the match (and only if I'm using Corrupt), and rarely during (unless the situation specifically calls for it -- i.e., Call of Brine has told me that someone has just hit a skillcheck on a nearby gen, and I think I can get a cheeky hit on someone). The Pig is too slow in stealth to use the power to move around the map, and once the very opening of the match is gone, there just aren't going to be many places it's going to come in handy.
Her Ambush attack, as someone already pointed out, is best in loops. If you sneak up to someone on a gen, it's best to uncrouch and either try for a gen grab, or simply smack them normally and not to take a chance of missing a dash when they start running. The Ambush is great at certain pallet loops, especially dependent on the map (on many Midwich loops, it's almost a guaranteed hit if you're in the pallet). You always want to get inside of the pallet, and the loop can't be one of the really long ones you find too often on many maps. Faking the Ambush attack can be effective as well -- really good survivors will know what they're doing and leave a loop immediately if they hear anything sounding like the roar, and you can start charging then uncrouch with those players -- often, you can catch them out in the open when they abandon the loop.
I've been playing around with an attack build, with STBFL (which you can conserve stacks with if you simply ignore the Obsession, unless you can Dash attack them), Dissolution, and either Enduring or Brutal Strength (to chew through pallets as well), with PR as the only slowdown, and I've had success with it. Gens pop early, but once the downs happen and the traps go on, so long as you keep applying pressure (and gave at least one gen regression perk), you SHOULD be able to slow the game down. Again, her traps ARE effective slowdown since her RNG was changed -- no other killer, save for Pinhead, has the slowdown build into their kit that she does. Head pops are not the goal with her traps (though when one does happen, it can completely turn a game around).
The Video Tape add-on, if you choose to run it, HAS to be run with Rules Set, but in that situation, you need to be capable enough with her to get pressure through downs early, or you're going to get no value out of the traps and you're going to get beaten (my SWF faced a newer Pig running the VT without Rules Set yesterday, and while it took a little bit for all of us to get off our traps, no one had to deal with an active one, and we 4-outed her with relative ease). The Video Tape/Rules Set Combo almost requires Lethal Pursuer to be run with it, as getting into a chase immediately is key to that add-on combo being successful. The Tampered Timer is still strong, but only with Crate of Gears (another purple add-on -- Bag of Gears, which is green, is a good substitute). Again -- head pops are NOT the main goal of a trap, and if a Pig is playing for a 3K/4K and focusing on that primarily, they're going to lose if the survivors are decent. I rarely run either of those combos, since I don't find they're needed to win.
You don't need Iri/Purple add-ons to win with her, but your overall skill as killer is going to be the determining factor on how your games play out. My two builds have the Face Mask paired up with the Bag of Gears (yellow/green), or the Last Will and Workshow Grease (both yellow) to help with her Ambush Dash (the former used with the slowdown build, the latter with the agressive build I referred to). Reading your post, it sounds like you definitely need Corrupt in your loadout to give you a chance to secure that early down. Some of what else you said sounds like either you're facing well-coordinated teams, or that you're going to need to work on your chases (in the latter case, STBFL and Brutal/Dissolution seem like must-run perks to help in that regard). Avoid chasing a trapped survivor UNLESS the situation demands it -- if you have next-to-no hooks against a very altruistic team and a survivor with an active trap at one gen remaining, chasing them can be effective, as you can use that altruism often to get another down (and another trap on someone). I've snowballed "unwinnable" situtations like that into wins, but otherwise, leave trapped survivors alone -- they're not going to be working on gens, unless they have a death wish.
Hope some of this helps, and good luck playing The Pig! As someone who plays all the killers to various degrees, I would consider her my "main", and I'm most experienced the best with her out of anyone, and once you can learn how to uitilize her to play to her strengths, she's a ton of fun to play!
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I would not play Pig if you want to do well. I just troll with her and follow the person with a trap on their head until it pops. AFK Pig used to be the meta before it got removed because it was too powerful for survivors to figure out.
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I main pig and I know what you mean by playing pig to troll, but my methods of trolling with pig were… very questionable.
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doing the challenge is not a problem, i just want to know how i can maximize fun and kills in the games i play with pig
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She's hard to have fun with... or should I say it's hard for me to say what's fun with her without knowing how you play
For me I try to get a trap on before the first Gen is done... repeat 3 more times on the other Survivors... then see what happens after that
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