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BHVR please give an explanation for Father’s Glasses removal

GannTM
GannTM Member Posts: 10,887
edited August 2022 in Feedback and Suggestions

You ignore the fact Mother-Daughter Ring + Yakuyoke Amulet is still in the game and you added Dried Cherry Blossom on top of that but remove Father’s Glasses? You still didn’t give an explanation on why, you just did it for no reason it seems.

Spirit still has a few add ons that need a change/removal and Father’s Glasses absolutely wasn’t one of them. It was a fun add on to use, it was great for hard of hearing people, and it wasn’t OP by any means.

At this point, just hire me and I’ll be in charge of the Spirit changes.

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Comments

  • Brokenbones
    Brokenbones Member Posts: 5,169

    Dried Cherry Blossom is even worse than Father's glasses, it's nonsensical that they changed it

    At least Father's Glasses didn't work on healthy survivors, hell there's perks that hide blood but at the moment there is 0 perks in the game that can hide killer instinct

  • Aneurysm
    Aneurysm Member Posts: 5,270

    My guess is they decided it wasn't counterable. And then yeah they went and added the killer instinct addon but consistency isn't always BHVR's strong point

  • GannTM
    GannTM Member Posts: 10,887

    It didn’t have no counters though, it doesn’t show where exactly the survivor is since blood is slightly delayed.

  • GannTM
    GannTM Member Posts: 10,887

    Dried Cherry Blossom isn’t a good add on by itself but you have to agree it’s too much with MDR.

  • Brokenbones
    Brokenbones Member Posts: 5,169
    edited August 2022

    An addon that gives spirit more tracking while phasing shouldn't exist imo

    Grunts of pain and scratch marks are all she should really have outside of perks like Spies/Rancor and such.

  • GannTM
    GannTM Member Posts: 10,887

    But you gotta think about the hard of hearing people as well. It’s hard enough to play Spirit for those people as it is.

  • Brokenbones
    Brokenbones Member Posts: 5,169

    That's true, I never thought of that to be honest. 🤔 A decent point.

    But tying accessibility to a purple addon isn't exactly good either idk.

    Spirit is a very audio reliant killer, maybe there's other things they could do to help out with all killers and not just her. That'd be the best way to handle it I think

  • GannTM
    GannTM Member Posts: 10,887

    Yeah I get what you mean. It’s a bit harder with her because she’s a uniquely designed killer.

  • Devil_hit11
    Devil_hit11 Member Posts: 8,817

    one of main complaint of spirit was something called... the stand-still mindgame. With father glasses, you could stand at pallet in phase-walk and see the blood, then make a decision to go around pallet to hit survivor or stay on same slide.

    Another problem with father glasses is that it counter's intended counter-play mechanic of spirit, specifically mother daughter ring.

    when spirit phasewalks, she has 1.5 second activation where you have stand-still as spirit to activate phase ability, so the basic premise is that you keep running for 1.5 seconds as survivor, then you start walking because walking removes your scratch marks and eliminates the breathing of the survivor meaning that spirit has to guess in area around her when she makes it to destination where scratch marks last were.

    Mother daughter ring is back-wards where spirit does not have scratch marks which means as survivor, you keep running until spirit you estimate that spirit is <12 meters near you then you begin to walk to eliminate your breathing. With father glasses, you can just go to destination where you last saw the scratch marks and look for blood pools which would give approximation for where the survivor is walking.

    conclusively, they did not remove father glasses, they reworked and the add-on that it was reworked as is Dried cherry blossom. Note that spirits did not use Father glasses because most spirit prefer to use Stridor as Stridor was better version of Father glasses. while stridor did counter iron-will, it also has secondary passive where it makes the survivor's breathing louder and this allowed you to track the survivor's movement.

    if you don't understand what i mean by breathing, go play like david king and listen to how david king sounds when he is running vs how he is walking. you will hear his hustling sound as he runs which better spirits will use to track you. note that a long time ago, these hustling sounds used to be audible in a chase, but at some point, they did this change where when a killer is in a chase, the survivor sounds just seem to be reduced & chase music is so loud that it drowns out these very important sounds. Old Iron will eliminated all these sounds making the survivor a complete ghost towards spirit. Luckily for spirit, you cannot see anyone in phase-walk so you can purposely drop the chase so that you can hear these sounds. its also large reason why iron will was a popular perk because the killer couldn't tell whether the survivor left the loop or stayed at the loop. no sounds and some killer players hated that. it makes you look really stupid as killer.

  • luvcraft
    luvcraft Member Posts: 1,235

    Dad got lasik.