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Pay For ACTUAL Anti-CHEAT Because I Keep GETTING HACKERS AND I'M SICK OF IT

AVoiceOfReason
AVoiceOfReason Member Posts: 2,723
edited August 2022 in General Discussions

Had a speed hacker with teleports, speed hacks, insta-unhooks and all that fun stuff at the last 20 seconds of a match but since I didn't have video software up, ######### me, right? Can't even report the guy because you guys won't pay for ACTUAL ANTICHEAT. Got my game ruined but I'm sure those cosmetics sale well. Got his profile but doesn't matter because no video proof :) Dude has like 3 different types of bans on his account from other games, it seems but who cares. Thanks again! PAY for REAL anti-cheat. I reported to Steam itself so maybe THEY will do something.

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  • AVoiceOfReason
    AVoiceOfReason Member Posts: 2,723
    edited August 2022

    If it sounds like I'm pissed off, its because I am. I'm getting hackers every week now. Starting to think that I'm on a list or something because I've been hearing falling sounds near me but never really can find the person. If someone tries to defend this, just know, you're the reason why nothing gets fixed when it comes to cheating.

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  • AVoiceOfReason
    AVoiceOfReason Member Posts: 2,723

    I'm sick of hackers and I'm sick of having to have my recording equipment up just incase.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    They do perma ban - they just have 1000's of accounts from the free Epic Weekend when it released on Epic, I spoke to a hacker a couple of weeks ago and I asked how many of their accounts were banned and they told me 50+ so far.

  • xni6_
    xni6_ Member Posts: 505

    pretty sure the devs are in full support of cheating. i reported a cheater like a month ago with 7 clips of their blatant cheats, and the guy is still playing dbd (hes on my friends list)

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    It really has.


    (The long blur is my Cloud ID they posted in chat so they can force themselves into my lobbies) lol.

  • Zeta_JK44
    Zeta_JK44 Member Posts: 12

    They just need a tool that tracks down your inventory from the bloodwebs, there are so many lazy smartass that use cheated account from epic games

    I mean, can someone have the same exact quantity of items on every character? In a ZERO HOURS playtime? Come on…

  • AVoiceOfReason
    AVoiceOfReason Member Posts: 2,723
    edited August 2022

    I usually don't complain about much but I'm legit getting sick to my stomach when I play killer now. I'm starting to learn what the hacks can do and I'm realizing that there are a ton of subtle hackers that are doing it. I've been playing a lot of Huntress lately. I know she's a bit slower but I've had a few survivors legit outrun me around a rock for about 10 loops before I realized that I just couldn't catch up. I know the distance I should be from objects while running because of my killer hitbox so I don't slow down but this was different. I've also been hearing random fall screams near me and I had a second match today where I had Lethal and I went to the corner of the map where the person just disappeared behind a baby window (those single tile with a dumb window in the corner of the woods with nothing nearby).

    Just poof. Next thing I know, the person gets mad near the end and starts speed hacking to the door while I was showing my game off to my friend in discord. Dude knew I saw him and just started flying and porting next to me over and over again, insta-healing herself every time I swung. For the past week, I thought I was tripping but I'm starting to see that I'm getting a lot of subtle hackers. I don't mean gen rush. I'm talking someone going behind a rock and going poof. No scratch marks or sounds. Without me hitting them either. If it wasn't for all of my aura perks on Huntress, I would have never caught this person near the gate, speeding hacking with Lethal Pursuer and Darkness Revealed. Is it too much to ask to have a playable game? I try to keep what I hate about this game to a minimal but this is starting to wear me down.

    Note: All the edits on my posts are just spelling fixes and grammar fixes.

  • AVoiceOfReason
    AVoiceOfReason Member Posts: 2,723

    That's messed up. Sorry to see that. I want them to spend some extra cash on better anti-cheat because this is becoming a joke.

  • Piruluk
    Piruluk Member Posts: 995

    The game should be rewritten for that which wont happen.

    The problem is that designed badly and no anti cheat can protect it.

    So have to accept that this game will always full of cheaters

  • AVoiceOfReason
    AVoiceOfReason Member Posts: 2,723

    They lease their anti-cheat from another company. It has nothing to do with the code and has everything to do with paying for the cheapest available.

  • Chaellooo
    Chaellooo Member Posts: 106

    They are gonna run out of accounts eventually, I hope dbd doesn't go free like before on Epic.

  • Chaellooo
    Chaellooo Member Posts: 106

    Fortunately they can't do anything with your Cloud ID as it doesn't give them any of your personal info as far as I am aware. Only lets them join your lobby. Even with the new streaming mode coming out soon to avoid stream sniping, it won't mean anything to hackers. Feel bad for streamers like Otz.

  • JPLongstreet
    JPLongstreet Member Posts: 5,989
  • AVoiceOfReason
    AVoiceOfReason Member Posts: 2,723
    edited August 2022

    Not fully sure but I know BattlEye is REALLY good. Punkbuster is also an option. Both do not cause slowdown, or at least, not enough to really notice. The only issue is is that I'm not sure if that would work on Console. I don't think PS5 and Xbox One X is an issue anyway and since Epic Games is PC, they'll be affected by both anti-cheats also. If they cared, they should use one of those 2 Anti-Cheats.

  • lowiq
    lowiq Member Posts: 436


    All anti-cheats and games use some form of logging to detect for unintended game / memory behavior (sending data via some text form to record the state of the game). However, client-sided logs are easy to spoof and it requires proper analysis to sniff out cheaters.

    Video recording isn't possible because of the amount of data that would need to be collected. It would be equivalent to having every single player stream their game at the same time - probably requiring half as much infrastructure as it takes to power twitch. Imagine how much lag that would introduce, not to mention the strain on your network to send all that data to a server.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    It's unlikely, some of these people have thousands upon thousands of accounts using a bot script to make accs when dbd was free.

  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Member Posts: 1,952

    This is one reason why many console players want console-only cross-play. I know some sites sell P100 characters and have exploits/cheats for PC only.

  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Member Posts: 1,952

    Overwatch records every match, and they have tens of millions of players. No idea how they do it.

  • Chaellooo
    Chaellooo Member Posts: 106

    Wow that is really dumb. Doesn't dbd ban your HWID aswell? That should prevent these people from making multiple accounts. They probably bypass that somehow aswell

  • catkillsmouse
    catkillsmouse Member Posts: 244

    I know it sucks. One time I had a hacker killer and he just teleported to everyone and kept hooking us.We could do nothing as he had exposed on us and super speed. It really can make you angry waiting for a match and these things happen.Sorry dude.

    I question the Servers they use tho when I see people teleporting around or through stairs or when I vault through a window and huntress hits me with her tiny axe(not thrown).

  • AVoiceOfReason
    AVoiceOfReason Member Posts: 2,723

    Overwatch uses Battleye Anti-Cheat. The one that I mentioned.

  • kizuati
    kizuati Member Posts: 1,386

    THE ISSUE IS NOT THE ANTI-CHEAT.

    Please,I'm so tired of this. The issue is that ALL GAME LOGIC (PRACTICALLY) is handled on the client. BHVR needs to pay for actual servers. It's why CSGO doesn't have fly hackers and speed hackers.

  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Member Posts: 1,952

    I wasn't referring to that. I was referring to the fact that they record every single match.

  • Brimp
    Brimp Member Posts: 3,052

    No its also the anti cheat. Bhvr is literally running on an outdated and compromised version of EAC.

  • Biscuits
    Biscuits Member Posts: 1,097

    Just had a killer who was 9000% wall hacking. It got to a point where I was literally testing him to see if he would travel across the map to pull me out of a locker, sure enough he did, not once but twice. No aura perks except for lethal. I was running quick and quiet with head on, and the first time quieted into a locker, he instantly pulled me out of the locker. Gave him that one, sure it happens, some characters make noises when they jump into lockers. But then later, he was hooking someone nearby so I jumped in a locker probably 45 meters or so away not in his line of sight at all. As soon as he finished hooking he beelined it to my locker, this is where my ######### radar went off. After I escaped from this chase I decided to quick and quiet random lockers far away from him. Sure enough two times he ran directly to dead zones to check lockers.

    I can't play a game now without feeling like a hacker is in one, it's out of control. I like this game but man, something needs to be done.

  • kizuati
    kizuati Member Posts: 1,386
  • AbsolutGrndZer0
    AbsolutGrndZer0 Member Posts: 1,452

    Yep. Pretty much anything you do to stop hackers, they can get around. It's just more difficult that some.

  • Gary_Coleman
    Gary_Coleman Member Posts: 732

    Sounds like fun.