Attention Killers : Stop picking favorites to let escape. You're making people feel terrible
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You think you are "being nice" by allowing one person to escape. What you are doing is making the OTHER people who you didn't allow to escape, watch what you are doing and feel frustrated. And you are also part of the problem of snitching cheating by survivors, where some survs use the game's team aura reading to snitch on their team. They feel they can take their chances because of this culture of letting people go.
Just had another game where the Killer played favorites. He stalled the game because he refused to kill his favorite surv, until he could find and kill the others. And then gave exit gate to that surv.
You end up frustrating people. Just kill all of us. Why break the rules of the game and not hook someone when you're supposed to and play favorites like this?
Stop ruining people's experience. I am trying to enjoy this game and the right thing to do is to kill everyone.
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If a survivor attempts to snitch on his partner, I'm going to make sure the snitch dies. Snitches end in ditches bro!!!
However, if you're asking that I don't ever allow anyone to escape (including the last person I absolutely have dead to rights), that's gonna be a big No Go. I have my own internal rules for when people are given the mercy escape and I have no intention of changing that, even if it makes the other survivors who I have killed and may be watching feel bad.
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Do you have no sympathy for the other players... and you're promoting snitch culture. Just kill everyone, that's your job.
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I agree this is one reason i don't give hatch. Because i feel the same way when i play survivor. Hopefully when mori rework drops killers will give hatch less.
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I'll hook who I want when I want. I don't owe you a person I don't know and honestly don't care about. Anything i'll always tunnel a jill out I don't care if I lose or win. As long as jill dies that said same with you. You don't get to tell me what to do or when to do it.
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As long as there is no exploiting, cheating, or teaming going on, I don't see the problem with players playing how they want to as it simply is a part of the game. You can play with your own set of internal rules, but don't expect others to follow them.
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You're lying. You know you are making the other people feel upset and frustrated that they were killed and you played favorites with 1 survivor.
You know this, don't pretend
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Sucks people don't play the way you want them to.
Next person with a cosmetic that I like....is getting a freebie, courtesy of this post inspiring it.
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Asking you to not make people feel bad by playing favorites... and just do your job... which is kill everyone.
"dont tell me how to play bro"
toxic
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Let me just point out. Working with the other side is against the rules. Enjoy your bans.
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Game is rated M, everyone.
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Jealous? :)
Jokes aside uh I don't think this is a good reason to not let the last go. When I'm feeling nice I let the last person get hatch. Yes sometimes I make sure that the person who is the last left is the one I "liked" for whatever reason. But it's not intended to make you feel bad. It's to be nice to that person. If you're seriously going to get jealous and call "no fair" when it could have easily been you that was picked as favorite then why play? No need to take things personally or all serious.
Now to be fair, yeah in your example teaming with the killer specifically is scummy. I don't let survivors team with me but sometimes they act a little "funny" as I'd vaguely describe it which I could see sometimes frustrating their teammates. To that I'd say if you wanna be picked, be a funny little man. The emoting T-bagging Bill gets hatch.
P.S. It's not toxic to not care about the other side's experience. It's toxic to deliberately try and make it worse.
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Are sensibilities just made of tissue paper these days or is this a bait post?
Seriously of all the things to be triggered by... someone else getting to survive due to killer charity at endgame is not fair and needs to stop. 😂
Is this what happens when all the kids who threw themselves on the ground in a tantrum over not getting a new toy at the super market grow up and start playing games?
Is it the result of everybody gets a trophy day events so no one has to feel like they lost thus they never learned to cope with losing?
This community baffles me in how delicate it is over every perceived slight. When its such an adult genre, survival horror.
"I'm gonna play this violent game where you have to escape from some monster a la 1980's slashers flicks, but no one is allowed to kill me or stab me or make me feel like my fun is under threat, and everybody has to play fair!"
I had this neighbour when I was a kid who was always threatening to take their toys and go home if they didn't get their way, at some point you just gotta say ok go home then I'll see you later.
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or you could do your job and kill everyone, and not ruin people's experience by having them watch you play favorites. it doesn't feel good. use whatever reasoning you want, you are frustrating the other players and making them upset as to why you allowed that surv to escape. this is especially magnified when things went on during the match on survivor side, that you as killer have no clue about. say the one you "liked", refused to unhook, or sat in a crouched corner instead of doing a gen at a crucial time, and here you come and pull this. is it too much to ask to simply do your job and kill everyone.
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If they are playing one of these survivors, i will let them go: Mikaela, Rebecca, Jill or Kate.
So if i have Dwight and Kate for last 2 survivors, ofcourse i will kill Dwight and then i will give hatch to Kate.
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What you perceive as charity to one player, is in fact frustrating the other players whom you didn't give this charity. Playing favorites is wrong. Use whatever reasons you want to justify it in your mind, you are upsetting the other players by doing it. I find it interesting that your immediate response is to bully me by mocking me, "tissue paper sensibilities", to avoid the responsibility of you doing something that's upsetting others.
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Sorry but I'll play how I want. I purchased the game I get to choose what I do that is within the TOS of the game.
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Refusing to kill a survivor and working with them so they can escape, is not within the rules of the game. You're not supposed to work with survivors. You're actually breaking the rules.
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I can't tell if this is some kind of elaborate bait or not.
If it's legit and not a bait, this is peak entitlement. "Why let the other guy go and not me? I'm special, so treat me like it 😭"
I let survivors go when I think they had a really hard game (e.g. they got stomped), or when I had a bonding moment with them and I decided to ignore them for the rest of the game so they can escape. Every now and again, there's someone like you in the endgame chat that has a freak-out that I was... nice to someone??? I'll never understand it.
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Actually, I'm asking you to kill -all of us-. NO entitlement here. I'm asking you to stop playing favorites and working with surv's.
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My only response to this is I don't care if it bothers you. I like doing it. It doesn't break game rules. I will not stop.
You're free to have your opinion about it but it doesn't make me a bad person for liking playing this way, and if you think otherwise then this discussion is over.
I wouldn't prefer to make people frustrated or upset, but I imagine most people aren't like you and probably don't care. I also don't enable griefers. If I see a survivor being a problem for their team I have no issue tunneling them out of the game. I don't work with survivors. I don't give people griefing their team hatch. I want everyone to have fun the same as you but I'm not going to play a specific way just because this one thing bothers you.
Killers can play how they want. People that lecture to them otherwise are wasting their time and acting entitled.
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Idk I pay no mind to it. It happens what... once every 30 games if you're lucky? Either way I don't get how someone gets mentally touched because they died once from other players.
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How does working with Surv's not break game rules? You're not supposed to do that.
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How giving hatch to last survivor is working with killer? I jus killed all survivors except my fav one. And then whenever everyone died, i did let them go.
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I play solo q. It happens the majortiy of my games. I wouldn't make this thread if it happened once every 30 games. Don't pretend like I'm exaggerating, it's frequent.
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Letting a survivor go through hatch hardly counts as working with the killer. You're reaching.
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Lol no. There was a message during the loading screen for the anniversary masquerade that specifically has one staff member say that people who give the other side a break while dominating are awesome. If this was really breaking the rules they would never encourage this behaviour.
Besides with the amount of people I let go (basically everyone if I don’t need to pip and they don’t ask me to kill them) id have been banned ages ago. Many appreciate being let go. I’ll still try and 2 hook everyone, give them a challenge but ill ultimately let everyone leave.
Don’t work for the other side means if you are part of a team, you aren’t allowed to deliberately sabotage it. The killer letting some survivors go doesn’t matter because they are only hurting themselves. Showing mercy either by allowing the killer to kill you after everyone has escaped or the killer allowing survivors to escape isn’t what this means.
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What about the other 3 you killed in the game? Do they appreciate it, don't think so. Would be much easier to just do your job
and Idc what BHVR says. Having heard enough of their ridiculous takes and stances, no wonder the game is in the current state it is in. They actually supported the idea of the survivors "betraying each other", which is hilarious when this is a team game that depends on everyone unhooking each other. Yeah, let's encourage NON team play at the same time. Sarcasm.
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I will give every James Sunderland the hatch and that's that.
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Nope, I will play how I want because of how it makes me feel not because of how it might potentially make someone upset when its broadly considered a kind gesture
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I didn’t kill anyone. I let all 4 escape after 2 hooks each. If they die because their team mates don’t save them that’s not on me, I’m not stopping them.
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I feel terrible when my teammate hides while I take the killer on a 5+ minute chase in a 2v1, with 1-2 gens left.
If someone wants to reward me for playing well, and requires my cooperation to find the last survivor, I’ll happily get up to use the bathroom while my virtual body is taken for an Uber ride.
It is against the rules to work with the killer. And last I checked… out of the 2 other players remaining in the lobby, the Claudette is looking a whole lot more like a killer than the Clown.
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If the killer uses one survivor to find another and then lets the first survivor escape, yes, that is against the rules.
If the killer chooses to kill one survivor but not another, that is not against the rules.
Does it suck when the killer lets the survivor who crouched around the edges of the map all match get a free escape? Yes, of course it does. Some days it seems like every survivor but me gets a free pass. Other days, I get three useless teammates who end up on the ground within 50 seconds, and I crouch and spin circles in front of the killer when they find me and they let me get the hatch. In the end there's probably a balance of about 25% where I get to be the lucky one, if there is a lucky one. Usually, the killer kills everyone.
What actually sucks is to be the one singled out by the other three survivors as the sacrificial lamb, served up to the killer and the only one to die. Being targeted by four people, including three "teammates," definitely feels worse than not being the one person who received a voluntary nicety from the opponent.
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I'm only asking for killers to do their job and kill everyone. Stop this culture of playing favorites or letting people escape. It's encouraging snitching, it's encouraging toxic attitudes, it frustrates the other people who got killed... just kill everyone, do your job.
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I find it hard to believe its "frequently". Even then that sounds like it happens more at low mmr with casuals. And you don't sound like a casual if you're complaining about it.
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You'll be chosen eventually don't worry. But fr, if the match was too easy I can't help but feel bad, always let at least one, sometimes two go.
The one's I did kill I didn't tunnel or camp in these games, so it's not like they had a bad time.
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The other people had their chance to pick bunny ears Feng. It’s not my fault they chose not to be too adorable to kill.
Seriously though, I get where you’re coming from but sometimes it’s not so much picking ‘favorites’ as it is other things. Like I might not see the others are having a hard time till I get some folks down. They might do the peace offering thing after some death hooks and they seem frustrated. Feng’s sad, innocent little whimpers might finally get to me (seriously, no idea what it is about her but she legit tugs the heartstrings).
Basically I don’t want to intentionally be a jerk because that’s not fun for anyone (myself included) but sometimes the awareness that triggers the intentional part of that isn’t until some are down.
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I don't want to be chosen. I'm only asking the killer to do their job and ... kill. kill everyone. Makes no sense for a serial killer to let someone go. Killers don't have pity on anyone
Problem solved. The culture of letting people go also fosters the snitching cheating too. Nobody should be doing this. they kill.
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Maybe a bit too oversensitive, no? Who cares? The fourth surv gets hatch? Good for them, get over it and move on.
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You keep saying "do your job". News flash bud, this isn't a job. It's a game. As in we aren't expected to do anything except for not break game rules. Outside of that we do what we want, even if what we want isn't the game's objective.
You aren't ENTITLED to a match where the killer only plays for a 4k.
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I dunno. I usually think its awesome when I do gens/unhooks/healing the entire match and then the killer lets the person, who hid in a corner the whole time, escape. I deserve it for playing this game.
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It's always the worst teammate they give hatch to.
Also wicked annoying is when a killer quickly tunnels out 2 players and then spends 10 minutes farming with the other two players.
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No, because if you want to play favorites, now you are avoiding playing the game and will refuse to hook/kill that survivor, and delay the game until you catch the other surv's to kill. This is not hard to grasp, you know this and why it's bad
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Yeah yeah, now you reveal your true nature and start bullying. Probably too much to ask someone like you to aavoid being selfish. And you call me entitled? Look in the mirror, lol.
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I'm not bullying you! I'm calling you out for lacking perspective. "Do your job" is such a silly thing to say when we're talking about a video game.
Ultimately I understand your perspective, and I can see that being frustrating. Particularly in cases where the survivor that got let go was trolling or not being helpful.
But you can't tell people how to play bud. That's just not cool. You're allowed to take the game seriously but you will inevitably end up in matches where some or all of the people you're playing with don't take it the way you do.
Plenty of killers never give survivors hatch. They can accommodate you.
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Killer Kills Survivors = that is Not ok u are a Evil Person
Killer let Survivor Escape = that is Not ok u are a Evil Person
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It's also encouraging the snitching going on when a downed survivor uses the team reading aura and starts using body language to communicate to killer where the last guy is at. Survivors would never try this if killers are known for massacring everyone. But surv's know that so many killers will work with them and let them go.
Here is one example that happened to me the other day when I was playing after I got home. A toxic SWF refused to let me heal them (i have max 5 stacks on Autodidact), and sandwiched me in to troll me, because they know they could use the killer to kill me and let them escape. Because of this culture of letting people go.
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Okay guys, what about this situation:
2 survivors die at 5/4/3 gens, it doesnt matter, the game is already lost for the survivors. So the killer "befriends" one of the 2 left and hunts the 4th one. The killer downs the 4th survivor and hook them, only for both the 3rd survivor and the killer farm the 4th survivor out until they are dead, and the killer let the other escape. Is this considered "working with the killer" and is it bannable?
PS: I has happened to me, I was the 4th
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This is the exact scenario that inspired this thread. And it happens A LOT. I run Sprint Burst and I'm very good at looping, so I am usually one of the last 2 people to survive. This is why I want the team reading aura for dying survivors to be removed. It's used to cheat too much.
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My guy if you take someone letting someone go as a personal attack it's time for some deep self reflection.
Solo queue is hellish, we know, but your crusade against everyone but yourself has got to end soon
Some people play this game to have fun, you know? And if letting them go is part of their fun then just move on to the next game. It's a video game.
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Tbh personally I wouldn't consider it "working with the killer" when the game is already lost. Now if its at the start of the game and someone is intentionally refusing to do gens and is body blocking all their teammates in chase.. yeah I would consider that working with the killer/sand bagging.
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