Pig is the weakest killer in DBD!
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Just wanted to point out that a STBFL is also great on Trapper! You may not always be able to guarantee trapping the obsession to save stacks, but can still get stacks out of hitting trapped survivors.
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Ok.... So:
Stealth- Her crouch takes time to finish... and her TR shrinks (she doesn't have instant Stealth)
Ambush- Her dash attack is best at loops that every other Killer can win at... plus charging a dash attack takes longer then Spirit (I would say Nurse but I think the Nurse is slower... but I have no proof)
Slowdown- She's the only Killer that has it... but only works if she has one out (so Timing it is everything)
She's good against Solo's... cause one can't call out that they have a trap on and some players don't look at the Survivor portrait
She's terrible against SWF's... cause they can communicate that they have a Trap on (to ensue either stop repairing Gens or get some to 99%) and to call for distraction (having a teammate take a chase)... then call out each box they check (like a countdown to tap those Gens that are close enough for it)
I'd say that she one of the harder Killers to learn (cause every match is different)
And since players want to play with their friends only means that she's going to be at the bottom of C tier
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I will leave this one here, its pretty entertaining to watch and a great build to try out.
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I know about that build already! One of my Pig builds is Spirit Fury/Enduring/STBFL/Brutal Strength, my issue is not winning with Pig i win with her, my issue is that shes not a good killer and is very weak, i want old headpops Pig back!
Old Crate of Gears/Jigsaw Sketch combo was broken! Then her add-ons got nerfed as she got overall nerfed. Like why oh why does Pig have a 32m terror radius instead of 28? Thats crazy! Its Pig for goodness sake!
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She's not
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She "is"! Tell me why Trapper or Legion is weaker than Pig bc i know thats what you wanna say!
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Can she get stuck in her own trap?
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I never said Legion was weaker. He's on par with her. Trapper is. He is map and addon dependent, has no slow down, has to chose between setting up and loosing gens, has to walk around the map to pick up his power
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Woah there, you're giving Sadako too much credit, lol
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Even separating Solo Q and SWF performance for each and Pig would still come out on top for both. They both struggle with SWF, but Evan has a much harder time imo. Pig has the Better kit, "RNG element", stealth mechanic, faster hits and downing capabilities that can be attributed to aforementioned stealth mechanic, not only an additional power in her kit that Evan doesn't have (as well as many other roster characters) but it's also a fairly significant slowdown one at that. She also has the better mind games at loops since she can get low and lose TR+Stain. In essence, Nerf pig.
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You have the opinion part down, but as far as the facts, you're not really siting any sources/data to prove why Amanda is the absolute worst killer in the roster... There are people who have mentioned a good few killers who can be seen as weaker than her by a mile, some even giving plenty of reasons as to why Pig gets off better than they do.
I think we would all benefit if you had something to base your claims off of vs ranting about a playstyle that's specific to two add-ons vs her power as a whole. It could help to prove the argument a ton, otherwise there's an impression that this "fact" is heavily personal/bias from a few bad Pig matches.
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Pig currently is the strongest she has ever been. Stop coping and get good.
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Trapper, Freddy, Sadako probs even myers
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Trapper and Sadako maybe but Freddy and Myers? Not even close.
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I legit think Freddy has one of the worst antiloop powers. only thing he really has is teleport.
Myers is just outdated. you have to lose about a gen just to tier 3 and then you can legit run out of ur power
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Pig starts match with finding and chase survivors, Trappers starts match with going for trap, pick them up, find a good place to set it up at least 6 times before he can start finding survivors.
Trapper has harsher RNG than Pig
Trapper has no build-in slowdown
Set graphic to Low to see traps easier
Map can spot traps
Traps can spawn at a good place that remove grass around it, where it supposed to have grass
Eyrie of Crow
Racoon
Midwich
The Game
Auto Heaven
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myers, trapper, freddy, non condemn sadako, clown, legion, ghostie, slinger, trickster
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Let me explain it for you:
Op telling bs = facts
Any people who say otherwise than op are trolls.
Disagreeing with op = personal opinions, not facts.
Only op can declare something as a fact without substantiating it.
I hope I could help you a little bit. I'm sorry you wasted your time here.
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Can Trappers be aware of they're Traps at all or most of the time? Yes!
Yeah i know you were gonna mention one of them already thats why i said what i said! Lol you kidding right Trapper is add-on dependant but Pig is not?
Pig needs add-ons just as much as any other killer outside Nurse! I'll agree that he has three maps where hes really bad but he makes up for it with the maps where his traps are basically invisible thanks to the darkened bear traps. Pigs in game slowdown means little to nothing. Her slowdown is highly overrated and trash and i explain why in this thread!
Trapper has to go around the map setting traps? Yeah of course he does just like Hag thats why these killers mostly use Corrupt competitively!
Too much credit? Sadako is a very good killer you and "all" others that say otherwise are trippin!
Evan? Pig would get destroyed by swf cut it out! No killer thats not Nurse and maaaybe Blight (depending on map, perks and add-ons) can do well or decent against them!
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That doesn't mean much when the strongest she has ever been is still pretty weak. :P
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You did not comprehend what was being said..What i "said" was opinions are opinions and facts are facts!
Opinion: Pig is a decent or good killer that can do well on most maps!
Facts: Pig is a weak or one of the weaker killers! Facts!!!
Do you understand and comprehend now. Theres a difference.
Lol tell that bs to someone else dont tell it to me!
Oh btw im godlike at dbd buddy! If you paid attention to the thread you would know i dont have issues in matches with her mostly im sticking to the killer and her lack of ability to consistently win! So you can keep your "get good" comment to yourself!
Pig is worse than all those killers except Trapper, he's debatable!
These killers are better than Pig in tiers theres no comparison, Pig sucks!
Nope all those killers are better than Pig!
Wrong and incorrect! OP is saying opinions are opinions and facts are facts! "Pig is weak and or a weaker killer" FACTS!!!
Everything else you said means absolutely nothing bc it has nothing to do with how i defined facts and opinions! Your trying to troll or derail the thread by attacking me and saying things i never said to reinforce your argument! Not gonna fly or work with me because i call stuff like this out and expose it! Nice try though!
This is not the strongest Pig gas been! Bear traps currently cannot be taken off on the first box/attempt but can between attempts 2-5 (actually most people get it off on box 2-3). Head pops are almost non existent as a result of this!
Old Pig with Crate of Gears and Jigsaw Sketch she had 5 boxes and boxes 2-5 were not guaranteed even though it could be taken off the first box! This was much stronger and Pigs strong add-ons got nerfed thus nerfing her overall.
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The more you ramble, the more evident you make it that you simply don't know how to actually play The Pig. The fact that you continue to refer to the change she had in her RBT RNG as a nerf (or at the least, refuse to acknowledge that it was a HUGE buff) shows that you don't understand what makes her strong at all.
Your focus on head pops also illustrates that. If you were playing to get a head pop as a primary objective -- and if you still do -- then you're playing her WRONG, so it's no surprise you keep on with your misconceptions (even though securing a head pop, if that's your objective, is still surprisingly easy to do if that's all you're looking for), and actually winning the match is secondary).
Her add-on changes were minimal at best, and if anything, her most popular ones other than the TT/COG combo used solely for head pops went untouched, or were buffed. Combat Straps were always her most popular add-on with Pigs who actually know how to play her, and they went untouched. Workshop grease got changed from worthless to something useful (increases her Ambush speed and decreasing its cooldown). The ability to add another trap is still available with two different add-ons, even with Last Will being changed. The changes to TT/COG are negligible, and the fact that multiple survivors are going to need at least 3 searches to get a trap off now (which wasn't the case before) makes it MORE likely you'll get a head-pop, and not less (head pops with old TT/COG were either contingent on your following the person around, which that is still viable, OR a survivor needing to get a four box search with any delay in that search making it impossible to accomplish -- which is now MORE likely to happen thanks to the RNG change, since just as it was before, pretty much any delay in their searching with a trap active, especially on a large map, will be lethal). Amanda's Letter -- a seriously underrated add-on on an indoor map -- got buffed significantly (with an increase in the number of traps carried and an aura distance buff). While I used old Video Tape frequently, the new version of it coupled with the previously useless Rules Set is solid, especially on certain maps (Indoor and newer ones like Garden of Joy). And the addition of Hex: Plaything to killer perks turned out to have great synergy with her previously useless Face Mask (as trapped survivors now can't see the aura of their Plaything totem until they get their trap off) leading -- at least in my matches, since I run both quite often -- to a lot of downs of Oblivious survivors.
You'd know all of that if you actually played Pig regularly like I do, but it's clear you don't by your continued diatribe without any actual "facts" to back up your opinion, which you are certainly entitled to, even if it's in the minority.
Pig is not S-tier, or A-tier. She's firmly in the bottom half of the roster, but nowhere near as bad as some people claim, and definitely not the worst. Myers has stealth going for him, but not much else (unless you're running Tombstone piece every match), and is the only killer who can actually run out of all his powers at some point in the match. Legion is beaten by smart survivors who simply split up as much as possible to deny their Frenzy its effectiveness. Trapper still relies massively on RNG for where his traps spawn, the updated maps have made many old trap placements no longer viable, and SWF really hurts him more than maybe any other killer. Sadako has ALL of Pig's weaknesses in chase, and her stealth, while better, isn't viable to make her lethal, and unless you're hard-playing for condemnation kills (like a One-Pump Willie does, as a comparison), her secondary power not only is almost never lethal, it isn't even good slowdown and pales in comparison to Pig's RBT slowdown. Deathslinger is a shell of his former self, and he also has very little going for him these days. Freddy has his snares and teleport, but the former was nerfed, the latter loses effectiveness as the match goes on, perks that had great synergy with him were also nerfed (like Tinkerer and Ruin, as two examples), and his add-ons were gutted in his rework, leaving him less viable in the hands of a good player than Pig in the hands of that same player. Clown is debatable, as a really good player with him can be deadly, but the average Clown has all of Pig's weaknesses without the slowdown of the RBT's, making them arguably worse as well. I'd take Pig over all of these killers any day, again, if for nothing other than the built-in slowdown of her RBT's, which is a power that few on the roster have going for them and is tremendously underrated.
Again, you're entitled to your opinion, but you're not really stating any "facts" in this thread. You just keep banging your fist on the table saying over and over "Pig is the worst killer in the game!". She's not, but your insistence on it continues to show that you either don't play her regularly, don't understand HOW to play her, or both.
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She has built in game slowdown... use it to your advantage (The two box searching addons) it doesn't matter if the RBT is active but it take longer to search the box
Combat Straps are a must have at this point... even if the TR doesn't shrink as fast
Just because she doesn't get Head Pops as often doesn't mean much... just look at the Kill Rates (even if they aren't clarified)
Even the extra RBT can be useful if played correctly
Again IMO she is one of the hardest Killers to learn... cause most of it is timing (which changes every match)
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You dont give boops, that's why
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Bait.
(Which feels kind of obvious with the tone of the replies.)
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It's surprising you think Pig is the worst Killer. Sure, she is nowhere near the best but she certainly isn't the worst. Clown, Sadako, and Hag all struggle more in this Meta, especially due to boons. Maybe you haven't found the right build for her yet? You can look here for inspiration. If you pair STBFL with slowdown perks, I reckon she can be quite oppressive to vers.
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