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I'm officially done playing survivor

I might go back to it after dedicated servers become a thing, but I can not ######### stand playing survivor. 

every round is 1 of 4 things. 

1. Camper
2. Killer with ######### signal that puts you at a blatant disadvantage
3. DC leaving you at a blatant disadvantage.
4. Legitimately skilled killer that kicks the teams ass. 

yes, there are the occasional rounds where I'm not matched up with potatoes or run into a killer who genuinely doesn't get sweaty for kills... but you mix all of this with the lack of bloodpoints and the current bugs in the game, one of which refuses to accumulate my co-op actions for the daily ritual and its just one frustration after the other.

and yea, I could go on to list the myriad of bugs that plague this game, but a quick browse through this forum and you'll see it laid out for you. 

the devs have done a great job in many ways, I won't pretend that the game isn't good, but the cons weigh out the pros far too horribly. 

seriously bhvr, you need to fix this game, as it is it just feels like a shameless money grab from your customers.

Comments

  • AChaoticKiller
    AChaoticKiller Member Posts: 3,104
    That's why you do swf, I'm both a sweaty try hard killer and solo survivor. While what you say is true almost nothing can be done about it since the match making system puts you together with other players of similar rank. regardless of their skill.
  • BACKSTABBER
    BACKSTABBER Member Posts: 1,809
    edited December 2018

    "gitgud" in 3, 2, 1.....

    you should watch more Monto videos playing as survivor

  • Nikkiwhat
    Nikkiwhat Member Posts: 1,378
    Unicorn said:
    Nikkiwhat said:
    Oh ffs, you drone on and on about this...go play another game....to you, everything a Killer would do would apparently upset you.  This is literally all I've seen you post about...
    I don't think they're necessarily mad at a killer, I believe they're more so upset with the way the game is for survivors right now. No DC penalties, FPS issues, No dedicated servers, etc. But yes I agree with you, maybe they just need a break from the game.
    Things can suck, I won't deny that...but there are multiple posts by thrm adnauesem about how bad Killers are and there's already a topic relating to this very topic of theirs.

    The game is asymmetrical where 4 people have to work together, it's going to be inherently one-sided when the team can't work together, fall for bait or can't keep a killer busy enough.

    The best solution other than a break/don't play is to get/make friends for better coordination in a SWF which can easily give you a better chance.

    To each their own but I laugh when a Killer has face camped me and the other players go and gen rush them.  Yeah not always the case, but take it with a grain of salt....its all fair in love and war and it's def war in this game.
  • ModernFable
    ModernFable Member Posts: 836
    Unicorn said:
    Nikkiwhat said:
    Oh ffs, you drone on and on about this...go play another game....to you, everything a Killer would do would apparently upset you.  This is literally all I've seen you post about...
    I don't think they're necessarily mad at a killer, I believe they're more so upset with the way the game is for survivors right now. No DC penalties, FPS issues, No dedicated servers, etc. But yes I agree with you, maybe they just need a break from the game.
    A break, then hopefully in six months all the issues you just stated will be resolved.
  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    edited December 2018
    I agree completely.

    - You get put on a hook and then some tool just circles around you over and over again while your fellow survivors sit nearby gawping at you.

    - They end up getting camped on a hook, while you rush gens but your other two survivors just sit there staring at the person on the hook, then unhook them anyway letting the killer kill them faster.

    - Survivors who go down first then disconnect a minute into the game when they miss their DS screwing over the other survivors. (be interesting to see if these people keep playing once DS is gone)

    - People who are absolute potatoes. The killer wipes them both out in 10 seconds. They try to bodyblock when the killer is 5 inches feom the hook....why? Then they go down too. Or they stand next to each other against a tier 3 myers and make no effort to run away.

    - Killers who get sweaty for the 4k and slug even if people D/C. Look if everyone payed well and you truly outplayed us I don't mind this. However ehen you get handed a victory by only 3 people loading in or someone disconnecting you don't deserve ######### and this just makes you look like a desperate pile of excrement.

    Its rare that you actually get good games where everyone plays well and makes an effort. I don't even mind losing, just give me a good game first. The camping is the worst part though, some nights its every single game.
  • Nikkiwhat
    Nikkiwhat Member Posts: 1,378
    "Killers who get sweaty"

    Pffff, Using that unironically is pretty hilarious.

    Your other points are easily rebutted

    -Patrol and Proxy camping are fine, esp with all the aura hiding with lockers and Distortion, Killers are going to assume or err on the side of caution that if they Hook someone and see no other auras via BBQ, that at least one other Survivor is nearby....no-one is guaranteed a free unhook.  Not to mention if a Killer notices a SWF or overtly altruistic group, to expect people to run over....not even remotely the Killers fault...stop acting like we should turn a blind eye

    Facecamping from the get-go/start is the ONLY tactic I won't defend

    -Not our job or fault if your teammates DC, I always personally give a rule of thumb that if two DC at the start I attempt a farm match, or if DCs happen throughout to do the same or just give Hatch...but to chastise Killers that don't is laughable, some rather move on and play a full game.  

    -Survivors that potato, it happens with everyone who plays this game.  You can either accept it or move on.  This again doesn't fall to the Killers to give leniency for bad plays or lack of skill.  Don't forget gamers of all types play this, young old, disabled and ones who just can't grasp the higher strategies/tactics. 


    The only caveat I will ever give is that if a Killer DCs, full points you've earned up till that point and a quitter bonus and keeping your items should be given...

  • altruistic
    altruistic Member Posts: 1,141
    Killer is more fun.  I am trying to play more survivor lately since I have played a lot more Killer the past year.. But yeah.. 9/10 times Killer games are a lot more enjoyable than solo Survivor games.  
  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    Nikkiwhat said:
    "Killers who get sweaty"

    Pffff, Using that unironically is pretty hilarious.

    Your other points are easily rebutted

    -Patrol and Proxy camping are fine, esp with all the aura hiding with lockers and Distortion, Killers are going to assume or err on the side of caution that if they Hook someone and see no other auras via BBQ, that at least one other Survivor is nearby....no-one is guaranteed a free unhook.  Not to mention if a Killer notices a SWF or overtly altruistic group, to expect people to run over....not even remotely the Killers fault...stop acting like we should turn a blind eye

    Facecamping from the get-go/start is the ONLY tactic I won't defend

    -Not our job or fault if your teammates DC, I always personally give a rule of thumb that if two DC at the start I attempt a farm match, or if DCs happen throughout to do the same or just give Hatch...but to chastise Killers that don't is laughable, some rather move on and play a full game.  

    -Survivors that potato, it happens with everyone who plays this game.  You can either accept it or move on.  This again doesn't fall to the Killers to give leniency for bad plays or lack of skill.  Don't forget gamers of all types play this, young old, disabled and ones who just can't grasp the higher strategies/tactics. 


    The only caveat I will ever give is that if a Killer DCs, full points you've earned up till that point and a quitter bonus and keeping your items should be given...

    Patrol and proxy camping at strategic times is ok, but if its done on the first hook every game then guess what? Its just as lame as face camping. We once again end up with a situation where the first survivor on the hook ends up never being able to get away since the killer won't leave the area, which makes the game awful for them and boring for everyone else whose sat holding M1 on a gen.

    Not survivors fault if teammates D/C. The devs need to sort this. Also yes if a killer camps/slugs for a 4k against a team that got shafted by only 3 spawning in or 1 disconnecting 30 seconds into thr game then that person is pathetic.

    Survivors that potato....never blamed this on the killer. Not even blaming the survivors, they can't help it. It just sucks gettig hit with rank reset so you get matched with these people. If you don't play survivor a lot to keep on top of it and keep hitting high rank then you get screwed. Low rank survivor is not enjoyable solo.
  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @Avariku said:
    I might go back to it after dedicated servers become a thing, but I can not [BAD WORD] stand playing survivor. 

    every round is 1 of 4 things. 

    1. Camper
    2. Killer with ######### signal that puts you at a blatant disadvantage
    3. DC leaving you at a blatant disadvantage.
    4. Legitimately skilled killer that kicks the teams ass. 

    yes, there are the occasional rounds where I'm not matched up with potatoes or run into a killer who genuinely doesn't get sweaty for kills... but you mix all of this with the lack of bloodpoints and the current bugs in the game, one of which refuses to accumulate my co-op actions for the daily ritual and its just one frustration after the other.

    and yea, I could go on to list the myriad of bugs that plague this game, but a quick browse through this forum and you'll see it laid out for you. 

    the devs have done a great job in many ways, I won't pretend that the game isn't good, but the cons weigh out the pros far too horribly. 

    seriously bhvr, you need to fix this game, as it is it just feels like a shameless money grab from your customers.

    I am really looking forward to see you become a killer main.
    Lets wait some days maybe weeks and see how your postings will change.^^

  • ReneAensland
    ReneAensland Member Posts: 838

    Playing killer at the moment is such a ######### #########.
    Haddonfield is darker, the basements are darker, there is so much glare.
    I'm on a 4k TV and this new update is #########.

  • redsopine01
    redsopine01 Member Posts: 1,269
    Nikkiwhat said:
    "Killers who get sweaty"

    Pffff, Using that unironically is pretty hilarious.

    Your other points are easily rebutted

    -Patrol and Proxy camping are fine, esp with all the aura hiding with lockers and Distortion, Killers are going to assume or err on the side of caution that if they Hook someone and see no other auras via BBQ, that at least one other Survivor is nearby....no-one is guaranteed a free unhook.  Not to mention if a Killer notices a SWF or overtly altruistic group, to expect people to run over....not even remotely the Killers fault...stop acting like we should turn a blind eye

    Facecamping from the get-go/start is the ONLY tactic I won't defend

    -Not our job or fault if your teammates DC, I always personally give a rule of thumb that if two DC at the start I attempt a farm match, or if DCs happen throughout to do the same or just give Hatch...but to chastise Killers that don't is laughable, some rather move on and play a full game.  

    -Survivors that potato, it happens with everyone who plays this game.  You can either accept it or move on.  This again doesn't fall to the Killers to give leniency for bad plays or lack of skill.  Don't forget gamers of all types play this, young old, disabled and ones who just can't grasp the higher strategies/tactics. 


    The only caveat I will ever give is that if a Killer DCs, full points you've earned up till that point and a quitter bonus and keeping your items should be given...

    Patrol and proxy camping at strategic times is ok, but if its done on the first hook every game then guess what? Its just as lame as face camping. We once again end up with a situation where the first survivor on the hook ends up never being able to get away since the killer won't leave the area, which makes the game awful for them and boring for everyone else whose sat holding M1 on a gen.

    Not survivors fault if teammates D/C. The devs need to sort this. Also yes if a killer camps/slugs for a 4k against a team that got shafted by only 3 spawning in or 1 disconnecting 30 seconds into thr game then that person is pathetic.

    Survivors that potato....never blamed this on the killer. Not even blaming the survivors, they can't help it. It just sucks gettig hit with rank reset so you get matched with these people. If you don't play survivor a lot to keep on top of it and keep hitting high rank then you get screwed. Low rank survivor is not enjoyable solo.
    What about a obvious see team that follows you to a hook and does a immideate save or keeps trying to distract the killer are they supposed to walk away because it's no fun to die off the bat when it's more profitable to stick around until your sure they can off
  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    edited December 2018

    Playing killer at the moment is such a [BAD WORD] #########.
    Haddonfield is darker, the basements are darker, there is so much glare.
    I'm on a 4k TV and this new update is #########.

    Haha I see you got warned for the D/C talk too.

    Great company behaviour is. Defend campers despite your own forum and reddit being plagued with threads about people saying they can't play survivor anymore because the camping is getting out of control.

    That will surely be good for the longterm health of the game. Silence those who call it out to sweep it under the rug and pretend it will be ok. I'm sure the camping problem will just sort itself out.

    Meanwhile everytime a new game comes out similar in design people are hoping ts good so they can jump ship to get away from all the issues DBD has. I wonder why that is....
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @The_Crusader said:
    Haha I see you got warned for the D/C talk too.

    Great company behaviour is. Defend campers despite your own forum and reddit being plagued with threads about people saying they can't play survivor anymore because the camping is getting out of control.

    That will surely be good for the longterm health of the game. Silence those who call it out to sweep it under the rug and pretend it will be ok. I'm sure the camping problem will just sort itself out.

    Meanwhile everytime a new game comes out similar in design people are hoping ts good so they can jump ship to get away from all the issues DBD has. I wonder why that is....

    One (DC) is against the rules. The other (camping) isn't. Yes, they punish people for breaking the rules.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    edited December 2018
    Orion said:

    @The_Crusader said:
    Haha I see you got warned for the D/C talk too.

    Great company behaviour is. Defend campers despite your own forum and reddit being plagued with threads about people saying they can't play survivor anymore because the camping is getting out of control.

    That will surely be good for the longterm health of the game. Silence those who call it out to sweep it under the rug and pretend it will be ok. I'm sure the camping problem will just sort itself out.

    Meanwhile everytime a new game comes out similar in design people are hoping ts good so they can jump ship to get away from all the issues DBD has. I wonder why that is....

    One (DC) is against the rules. The other (camping) isn't. Yes, they punish people for breaking the rules.

    And yet I've received lots of offensive insults from killer mains, things clearly against the rules, reported them and nothing has been done. It's almost as if there's a bias?

    And lets not forget that Jendenise is one of their fog whisperers yet is known for disconnecting. Guess its ok to break the rules as long as you have twitch followers. Behaviour will even promote you for doing so.
  • redsopine01
    redsopine01 Member Posts: 1,269
    Nikkiwhat said:
    "Killers who get sweaty"

    Pffff, Using that unironically is pretty hilarious.

    Your other points are easily rebutted

    -Patrol and Proxy camping are fine, esp with all the aura hiding with lockers and Distortion, Killers are going to assume or err on the side of caution that if they Hook someone and see no other auras via BBQ, that at least one other Survivor is nearby....no-one is guaranteed a free unhook.  Not to mention if a Killer notices a SWF or overtly altruistic group, to expect people to run over....not even remotely the Killers fault...stop acting like we should turn a blind eye

    Facecamping from the get-go/start is the ONLY tactic I won't defend

    -Not our job or fault if your teammates DC, I always personally give a rule of thumb that if two DC at the start I attempt a farm match, or if DCs happen throughout to do the same or just give Hatch...but to chastise Killers that don't is laughable, some rather move on and play a full game.  

    -Survivors that potato, it happens with everyone who plays this game.  You can either accept it or move on.  This again doesn't fall to the Killers to give leniency for bad plays or lack of skill.  Don't forget gamers of all types play this, young old, disabled and ones who just can't grasp the higher strategies/tactics. 


    The only caveat I will ever give is that if a Killer DCs, full points you've earned up till that point and a quitter bonus and keeping your items should be given...

    Patrol and proxy camping at strategic times is ok, but if its done on the first hook every game then guess what? Its just as lame as face camping. We once again end up with a situation where the first survivor on the hook ends up never being able to get away since the killer won't leave the area, which makes the game awful for them and boring for everyone else whose sat holding M1 on a gen.

    Not survivors fault if teammates D/C. The devs need to sort this. Also yes if a killer camps/slugs for a 4k against a team that got shafted by only 3 spawning in or 1 disconnecting 30 seconds into thr game then that person is pathetic.

    Survivors that potato....never blamed this on the killer. Not even blaming the survivors, they can't help it. It just sucks gettig hit with rank reset so you get matched with these people. If you don't play survivor a lot to keep on top of it and keep hitting high rank then you get screwed. Low rank survivor is not enjoyable solo.
    What about a obvious see team that follows you to a hook and does a immideate save or keeps trying to distract the killer are they supposed to walk away because it's no fun to die off the bat when it's more profitable to stick around until your sure they can off
    Ment swf and sod odd)
  • redsopine01
    redsopine01 Member Posts: 1,269
    Nikkiwhat said:
    "Killers who get sweaty"

    Pffff, Using that unironically is pretty hilarious.

    Your other points are easily rebutted

    -Patrol and Proxy camping are fine, esp with all the aura hiding with lockers and Distortion, Killers are going to assume or err on the side of caution that if they Hook someone and see no other auras via BBQ, that at least one other Survivor is nearby....no-one is guaranteed a free unhook.  Not to mention if a Killer notices a SWF or overtly altruistic group, to expect people to run over....not even remotely the Killers fault...stop acting like we should turn a blind eye

    Facecamping from the get-go/start is the ONLY tactic I won't defend

    -Not our job or fault if your teammates DC, I always personally give a rule of thumb that if two DC at the start I attempt a farm match, or if DCs happen throughout to do the same or just give Hatch...but to chastise Killers that don't is laughable, some rather move on and play a full game.  

    -Survivors that potato, it happens with everyone who plays this game.  You can either accept it or move on.  This again doesn't fall to the Killers to give leniency for bad plays or lack of skill.  Don't forget gamers of all types play this, young old, disabled and ones who just can't grasp the higher strategies/tactics. 


    The only caveat I will ever give is that if a Killer DCs, full points you've earned up till that point and a quitter bonus and keeping your items should be given...

    Patrol and proxy camping at strategic times is ok, but if its done on the first hook every game then guess what? Its just as lame as face camping. We once again end up with a situation where the first survivor on the hook ends up never being able to get away since the killer won't leave the area, which makes the game awful for them and boring for everyone else whose sat holding M1 on a gen.

    Not survivors fault if teammates D/C. The devs need to sort this. Also yes if a killer camps/slugs for a 4k against a team that got shafted by only 3 spawning in or 1 disconnecting 30 seconds into thr game then that person is pathetic.

    Survivors that potato....never blamed this on the killer. Not even blaming the survivors, they can't help it. It just sucks gettig hit with rank reset so you get matched with these people. If you don't play survivor a lot to keep on top of it and keep hitting high rank then you get screwed. Low rank survivor is not enjoyable solo.
    What about a obvious see team that follows you to a hook and does a immideate save or keeps trying to distract the killer are they supposed to walk away because it's no fun to die off the bat when it's more profitable to stick around until your sure they can off
    Ment swf and sod odd)
  • mcNuggets
    mcNuggets Member Posts: 767

    I had fun as survivor today, while I played 2 killer rounds just for the dailies were horrible.
    The new update ruined the killer experience altogether.
    I have DELAYS when doing stuff, the pickup speed is slow again, survivors teleport to their advantage, I can't see #########, it's too dark and blurry.

    I had much fun as survivor, but not as killer, I just played for 2 dailies though. (One daily is bugged, I played a wraith round for no ######### reason)

  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    @The_Crusader said:

    And lets not forget that Jendenise is one of their fog whisperers yet is known for disconnecting. Guess its ok to break the rules as long as you have twitch followers. Behaviour will even promote you for doing so.

    Yes, welcome to life. Rich people also rarely go to jail, what's new?

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688

    @The_Crusader said:

    And lets not forget that Jendenise is one of their fog whisperers yet is known for disconnecting. Guess its ok to break the rules as long as you have twitch followers. Behaviour will even promote you for doing so.

    Yes, welcome to life. Rich people also rarely go to jail, what's new?

    Maybe they shouldn't be promoting people who do things they don't want players doing.

    Oh but no, gotta have the game trending on twitch.

    $$$ >>> principles.
  • rafajsp
    rafajsp Member Posts: 475

    @The_Crusader said:
    MhhBurgers said:

    @The_Crusader said:

    And lets not forget that Jendenise is one of their fog whisperers yet is known for disconnecting. Guess its ok to break the rules as long as you have twitch followers. Behaviour will even promote you for doing so.

    Yes, welcome to life. Rich people also rarely go to jail, what's new?

    Maybe they shouldn't be promoting people who do things they don't want players doing.

    Oh but no, gotta have the game trending on twitch.

    $$$ >>> principles.

    You should get banned for just watching Jendenise, such a stupid/pointless streamer lol.

  • towhead
    towhead Member Posts: 61
    90% of the games as survivor i play, i am chased off the hook.  killers are just having fun though.  i need to be more understanding and more of a humble servant of their will.
  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    Hey, i'm none of those 4! :p

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    Wolf74 said:

    @Avariku said:
    I might go back to it after dedicated servers become a thing, but I can not [BAD WORD] stand playing survivor. 

    every round is 1 of 4 things. 

    1. Camper
    2. Killer with ######### signal that puts you at a blatant disadvantage
    3. DC leaving you at a blatant disadvantage.
    4. Legitimately skilled killer that kicks the teams ass. 

    yes, there are the occasional rounds where I'm not matched up with potatoes or run into a killer who genuinely doesn't get sweaty for kills... but you mix all of this with the lack of bloodpoints and the current bugs in the game, one of which refuses to accumulate my co-op actions for the daily ritual and its just one frustration after the other.

    and yea, I could go on to list the myriad of bugs that plague this game, but a quick browse through this forum and you'll see it laid out for you. 

    the devs have done a great job in many ways, I won't pretend that the game isn't good, but the cons weigh out the pros far too horribly. 

    seriously bhvr, you need to fix this game, as it is it just feels like a shameless money grab from your customers.

    I am really looking forward to see you become a killer main.
    Lets wait some days maybe weeks and see how your postings will change.^^

    I just love it, when survivor mains say they want to switch because killer is so much easier. That they'll play fair and won't tunnel and camp, so everyone can enjoy the match.
  • Speshul_Kitten
    Speshul_Kitten Member Posts: 1,861
    Dude chill out, the rank reset has put you to play with noobs on both sides. Once you get passed the green ranks and head into the purple range you’ll have more competent teammates and killers.
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    Avariku said:
    I might go back to it after dedicated servers become a thing, but I can not [BAD WORD] stand playing survivor. 

    every round is 1 of 4 things. 

    1. Camper
    2. Killer with ######### signal that puts you at a blatant disadvantage
    3. DC leaving you at a blatant disadvantage.
    4. Legitimately skilled killer that kicks the teams ass. 

    yes, there are the occasional rounds where I'm not matched up with potatoes or run into a killer who genuinely doesn't get sweaty for kills... but you mix all of this with the lack of bloodpoints and the current bugs in the game, one of which refuses to accumulate my co-op actions for the daily ritual and its just one frustration after the other.

    and yea, I could go on to list the myriad of bugs that plague this game, but a quick browse through this forum and you'll see it laid out for you. 

    the devs have done a great job in many ways, I won't pretend that the game isn't good, but the cons weigh out the pros far too horribly. 

    seriously bhvr, you need to fix this game, as it is it just feels like a shameless money grab from your customers.
    Yes it's difficult nowadays. Swf has ruined both, survivor and killer, for me sadly and I play a lot less than I used to
  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    Dude chill out, the rank reset has put you to play with noobs on both sides. Once you get passed the green ranks and head into the purple range you’ll have more competent teammates and killers.
    But you have to put up with a lot of ######### to get to those purple ranks. Camping, camping and more camping. It feels like a chore.
  • xChrisx
    xChrisx Member Posts: 917
    Go play civ maybe you are just tired 
  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223

    Stop playing to escape. You are a survivor, you are supposed to die often. Play to pip it's a lot more enjoyable. Follow the "rule of 1", 1 gen solo, 1 heal solo, 1 save, 1 minute of chase. You will pip every time. If you escape it's like a bonus.

  • Avariku
    Avariku Member Posts: 608
    Wolf74 said:

    @Avariku said:
    I might go back to it after dedicated servers become a thing, but I can not [BAD WORD] stand playing survivor. 

    every round is 1 of 4 things. 

    1. Camper
    2. Killer with ######### signal that puts you at a blatant disadvantage
    3. DC leaving you at a blatant disadvantage.
    4. Legitimately skilled killer that kicks the teams ass. 

    yes, there are the occasional rounds where I'm not matched up with potatoes or run into a killer who genuinely doesn't get sweaty for kills... but you mix all of this with the lack of bloodpoints and the current bugs in the game, one of which refuses to accumulate my co-op actions for the daily ritual and its just one frustration after the other.

    and yea, I could go on to list the myriad of bugs that plague this game, but a quick browse through this forum and you'll see it laid out for you. 

    the devs have done a great job in many ways, I won't pretend that the game isn't good, but the cons weigh out the pros far too horribly. 

    seriously bhvr, you need to fix this game, as it is it just feels like a shameless money grab from your customers.

    I am really looking forward to see you become a killer main.
    Lets wait some days maybe weeks and see how your postings will change.^^

    I already am a killer main, always have been... but I keep trying to play survivor because that's actually the aspect of the game that brought me in to begin with. I've been a killer main from the start because it's easier and less frustrating than playing solo survivor. 

    and I've stated many times before that I have NO issue with patrolling a hook, that's just smart, same for tunneling... if I go back to a hook and the unhooker is already gone but the injured guy is sitting there healing like an idiot... he asked for it.  (that wasn't really to you, just in response to some other comments) 

    my opinions on this will not change because this game is NOT survivor sided. SWF sided, sure... but survivor? no. 

    and don't give me that crap of "just go play another game." I paid the same for this game as you did, I'll take a break from survivor, but not the game. go ######### yourself with that attitude.  (again, not specifically to you, just in general to those that gave that response)

    The devs NEED to fix the blatant imbalance between solo and SWF. period. Survivor is not fun for solo and the lack of earning any significant BP by playing that role is just a slap in the face.

    as I mentioned on another thread, there's so much that favors killer indirectly that it makes solo survivor painful to play.

    - lag favors the killer
    - pallets aren't responsive lately meaning I'm standing there mashing the button but the pallet doesn't drop until I'm already hit or down.
    - camping favors killers against randoms not SWF.
    - survivor DC favors killer, which is the only one who gets a BP bonus for it too.

    the list could go on, but I already know it won't do any good preaching this to other killer mains, they just want their 4k's and obscene power roles while survivors are there only for their entertainment.
  • MrDardon
    MrDardon Member Posts: 4,049

    Same with me. Weeks ago I enjoyed playing solo. Since October I hate it, I don't know why. I don't care about Campers or Tunnelers. Like you said, it's lag switchers and in my case, ######### team mates. I rather play Killer against 4 man swf than playing solo survivor. Oh wait, you can't play Killer cuz queues take 100 of years now. I can't grind at all, I get sick after 3 solo Survivor rounds, I can't play Killer, i mean, why should I waste 20 or more minutes to get a 5 minute game. I rather play my old childhood games on ps2 or start creating own Killers, create own addons for all Killers to make them better. I can't even play this game anymore. Not just me, I don't know if they're too many Killers right now or if Killer Lobbies are bugged. When I join a lobby as Survivor there are 4 people inside the lobby by default. If someone dodges, the next one joins the lobby instantly. So I don't think there are no Survivors to play against. People tell me they don't have that much of a problem finding Survivors and I wait like 10+ minutes if not more because after 5 to 10 minutes I dodge the lobby because I can't wait anymore.

  • Avariku
    Avariku Member Posts: 608
    Tsulan said:
    Wolf74 said:

    @Avariku said:
    I might go back to it after dedicated servers become a thing, but I can not [BAD WORD] stand playing survivor. 

    every round is 1 of 4 things. 

    1. Camper
    2. Killer with ######### signal that puts you at a blatant disadvantage
    3. DC leaving you at a blatant disadvantage.
    4. Legitimately skilled killer that kicks the teams ass. 

    yes, there are the occasional rounds where I'm not matched up with potatoes or run into a killer who genuinely doesn't get sweaty for kills... but you mix all of this with the lack of bloodpoints and the current bugs in the game, one of which refuses to accumulate my co-op actions for the daily ritual and its just one frustration after the other.

    and yea, I could go on to list the myriad of bugs that plague this game, but a quick browse through this forum and you'll see it laid out for you. 

    the devs have done a great job in many ways, I won't pretend that the game isn't good, but the cons weigh out the pros far too horribly. 

    seriously bhvr, you need to fix this game, as it is it just feels like a shameless money grab from your customers.

    I am really looking forward to see you become a killer main.
    Lets wait some days maybe weeks and see how your postings will change.^^

    I just love it, when survivor mains say they want to switch because killer is so much easier. That they'll play fair and won't tunnel and camp, so everyone can enjoy the match.
    love how people like to assume what everyone else will do, and I have plenty of posting showing exactly how I've played as a killer and no, I don't camp, because I'm not trash.
  • Mashtyx1
    Mashtyx1 Member Posts: 188
    Broken hit boxes anyone and please do bring up the fact the devs said its"latency." Because yes it is but other times I load into a match with green ping and still get hit a mile away from the killer. Please fix this...
  • Warlock_2020
    Warlock_2020 Member Posts: 1,867
    edited December 2018

    The biggest flaw in the argument of camping is that there should have never been an argument about it in the first place. It is a design flaw that should have been identified as an avenue that could discourage/lose newer players, thus causing the game to grwo stagnant. It is bad for business. To some extent, so is pallet looping. I think pallet looping is much better than it was, with the massive reduction in pallets and slow vaults, it is an improvement, but there is still an issue.

    Stop blaming those who hate camping or pallet looping. Blame the developers for lacking the vision to see that these two play styles hurt their product and act as a barrier for new players. This game needs an influx of fresh blood, pardon the pun, and it will not get it with these toxic styles blocking the way.

    New game modes will help. Finding some that limit the toxic opportunities. Perhaps even a "capture the survivor" death match. Multiple killers in a haunted house with x amount of survivors. No gens, no escapes. The survivors will die multiple times during a 10 minute match. The killer with the most kills wins. The survivors earn bonus bp for escaping, hiding, evading, completing rituals, and not dying at the hands of the same killer twice in a row. Killers are penalized for killing the same survivor three times in a row. (EDIT: This is to limit potential cheating of killers and survivors working together. By penalized, they don't get a body count for it, no loss of points/bp.) When survivors die, they respawn in an area furthest away from the killers. It is a bp scramble for survivors, and a body count scramble for the killers. (Though, I can see killers turning on each other fast in post game chat.)

    Limit the pallets, add in beds to hide under, or closets to hide in, etc.

    Anyways..I digress. Camping is a horrible mechanic for game growth. So is infinite looping. Blame the developers for opening up pandora's box and inviting in the lowest common denominator of the player base.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688

    Stop playing to escape. You are a survivor, you are supposed to die often. Play to pip it's a lot more enjoyable. Follow the "rule of 1", 1 gen solo, 1 heal solo, 1 save, 1 minute of chase. You will pip every time. If you escape it's like a bonus.

    I do that and im fine with it.

    Problem is when the killer camps it all goes to #########. Hence why we complain about it so much.

    Or games where killer only gets 1 hook all game so its hard to get saves, get no chaser cus hes been looped all game, and then downs you with NOED at the end so you actually depip because you only got to do gens.
  • Incarnate
    Incarnate Member Posts: 677

    @Avariku said:
    The devs NEED to fix the blatant imbalance between solo and SWF. period. Survivor is not fun for solo and the lack of earning any significant BP by playing that role is just a slap in the face.

    I completely agree with this statement!

  • Nikkiwhat
    Nikkiwhat Member Posts: 1,378
    Avariku said:
    Wolf74 said:

    @Avariku said:
    I might go back to it after dedicated servers become a thing, but I can not [BAD WORD] stand playing survivor. 

    every round is 1 of 4 things. 

    1. Camper
    2. Killer with ######### signal that puts you at a blatant disadvantage
    3. DC leaving you at a blatant disadvantage.
    4. Legitimately skilled killer that kicks the teams ass. 

    yes, there are the occasional rounds where I'm not matched up with potatoes or run into a killer who genuinely doesn't get sweaty for kills... but you mix all of this with the lack of bloodpoints and the current bugs in the game, one of which refuses to accumulate my co-op actions for the daily ritual and its just one frustration after the other.

    and yea, I could go on to list the myriad of bugs that plague this game, but a quick browse through this forum and you'll see it laid out for you. 

    the devs have done a great job in many ways, I won't pretend that the game isn't good, but the cons weigh out the pros far too horribly. 

    seriously bhvr, you need to fix this game, as it is it just feels like a shameless money grab from your customers.

    I am really looking forward to see you become a killer main.
    Lets wait some days maybe weeks and see how your postings will change.^^

    I already am a killer main, always have been... but I keep trying to play survivor because that's actually the aspect of the game that brought me in to begin with. I've been a killer main from the start because it's easier and less frustrating than playing solo survivor. 

    and I've stated many times before that I have NO issue with patrolling a hook, that's just smart, same for tunneling... if I go back to a hook and the unhooker is already gone but the injured guy is sitting there healing like an idiot... he asked for it.  (that wasn't really to you, just in response to some other comments) 

    my opinions on this will not change because this game is NOT survivor sided. SWF sided, sure... but survivor? no. 

    and don't give me that crap of "just go play another game." I paid the same for this game as you did, I'll take a break from survivor, but not the game. go [BAD WORD] yourself with that attitude.  (again, not specifically to you, just in general to those that gave that response)

    The devs NEED to fix the blatant imbalance between solo and SWF. period. Survivor is not fun for solo and the lack of earning any significant BP by playing that role is just a slap in the face.

    as I mentioned on another thread, there's so much that favors killer indirectly that it makes solo survivor painful to play.

    - lag favors the killer
    - pallets aren't responsive lately meaning I'm standing there mashing the button but the pallet doesn't drop until I'm already hit or down.
    - camping favors killers against randoms not SWF.
    - survivor DC favors killer, which is the only one who gets a BP bonus for it too.

    the list could go on, but I already know it won't do any good preaching this to other killer mains, they just want their 4k's and obscene power roles while survivors are there only for their entertainment.
    You have my Pity with how obsessed you are at flooding the forum with this