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Is aura reading actually powerful?

Orion
Orion Member Posts: 21,675

I'm sure we've all heard complaints about Killers using aura-reading perks. Usually the complaints revolve around said perks being "overpowered", sometimes even "wallhacks".
However, there's one question that nobody who complains about this has answered yet: If aura reading is so powerful, why don't Survivors use their aura-reading perks?

Discuss.

Comments

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    Orion said:

    I'm sure we've all heard complaints about Killers using aura-reading perks. Usually the complaints revolve around said perks being "overpowered", sometimes even "wallhacks".
    However, there's one question that nobody who complains about this has answered yet: If aura reading is so powerful, why don't Survivors use their aura-reading perks?

    Discuss.

    Aura reading is really powerful depending on if you use it correctly. For example, I sometimes use Sole Survivor and Object of obsession. I used the aura reading to see the killer camping the hatch (I figured out where the hatch was located at) and 99%'d the last two generators to pop them both instantly. Then I seen the killer (aura reading) running away from the hatch and I sneaked in.
  • ModernFable
    ModernFable Member Posts: 836
    Breakdown and Dark Sense to keep track of the Killer during very pivotal moments.

    Bond and Kindred to easily find teammates and see if the Killer is camping.

    I could go on, but point is there’s all kinds of powerful Survivor Auras.
  • BigBubs
    BigBubs Member Posts: 1,131
    edited December 2018

    @Orion said:
    If aura reading is so powerful, why don't Survivors use their aura-reading perks?

    Survivors don't need to find the killer , that's why.

    Oh and I do use some like alert and bond sometimes.

  • ReneAensland
    ReneAensland Member Posts: 838

    Survivors already have a Heartbeat to listen to.
    Killer doesn't heal, Dark sense is cool but only when generators are finished. OOO can backfire.

  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    I always use bond or empathy(if I run we'll make it) as one om my perks. Bond mostly, since I never use self care. If I was left to choose to use only 1 perk for survivor and killer, they'd be bbq and bond. Bond is the most powerful survivor perk imo, the info you get from it is incredible

  • Entità
    Entità Member Posts: 1,583
    Since the killer is faster than survivors, not being seen by the killer is more important than seeing them.
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @Entità said:
    Since the killer is faster than survivors, not being seen by the killer is more important than seeing them.

    And if you can see the Killer without them seeing you, you can avoid them.

  • Entità
    Entità Member Posts: 1,583
    @Orion I'm just explaining why to see the killer's Aura is not a remedy to their Aura reading abilities, aside the fact that killer's and survivors' Aura reading skills trigger in different ways and moments, not at the same time (except Object of Obsession).
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @Entità said:
    @Orion I'm just explaining why to see the killer's Aura is not a remedy to their Aura reading abilities, aside the fact that killer's and survivors' Aura reading skills trigger in different ways and moments, not at the same time (except Object of Obsession).

    Then you're explaining something that's irrelevant to my thread. I'm asking why Survivors don't use their own aura reading perks, if indeed they are as powerful as they claim.

  • Entità
    Entità Member Posts: 1,583
    I think the question is generic: some do not like the Aura reading per se, others fear that the killer's Aura reading skills destroy the stealthy game, others still want to see the Auras of the allies and not the enemy's, others claim to see the killer's Aura without being seen by them. In short, everyone has their motivations. Which category of players are you asking? :)

  • Warlock_2020
    Warlock_2020 Member Posts: 1,867

    Survivor aura reading perks are highly situational. To spend a perk on something that is so situational is risky. Killer perks are for seek and destroy and care trigged by either the killer's actions, or actions you are guaranteed to see in a match, such as gens being done or healing. Killer perks are much more useful and are guaranteed to trigger in each match, aiding the killer in seeking out survivors. Survivor perks, not so much. Alert is probably the best of them. Pretty sure the killer will kick a gen or break a pallet in a match. The rest, very situational.

  • Plu
    Plu Member Posts: 1,456

    It's really good when you are so used on how the game works that you can mentally calculate how far survs can travel after the aura ends, but considering how easy they are to counter now, i find them to be pretty balanced as perks.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @Warlock_2020 said:
    Survivor aura reading perks are highly situational. To spend a perk on something that is so situational is risky. Killer perks are for seek and destroy and care trigged by either the killer's actions, or actions you are guaranteed to see in a match, such as gens being done or healing. Killer perks are much more useful and are guaranteed to trigger in each match, aiding the killer in seeking out survivors. Survivor perks, not so much. Alert is probably the best of them. Pretty sure the killer will kick a gen or break a pallet in a match. The rest, very situational.

    Dark Sense triggers on you repairing a generator and after all generators are repaired. Do you not expect to repair a single generator, ever?
    Bond triggers on Survivors being near you. Do you not expect to be near a single Survivor, ever?
    Empathy triggers on Survivors being injured. Do you not expect Survivors to be injured, ever?
    Kindred triggers if you're hooked.
    Aftercare triggers if you unhook, heal, get unhooked, or get healed.
    Breakdown triggers if you're unhooked.
    Déjà Vu triggers when the trial starts and every time a generator is repaired.
    Detective's Hunch triggers when you complete a generator.
    Object Of Obsession triggers if you're outside the Killer's Terror Radius.
    Plunderer's Instinct triggers if you're near chests.
    Wake Up! triggers when all generators are repaired and when you open an exit.
    Windows Of Opportunity triggers if you're near pallets or windows.

    They don't seem any more situational than Killer aura reading perks.

  • ModernFable
    ModernFable Member Posts: 836

    Survivor aura reading perks are highly situational. To spend a perk on something that is so situational is risky. Killer perks are for seek and destroy and care trigged by either the killer's actions, or actions you are guaranteed to see in a match, such as gens being done or healing. Killer perks are much more useful and are guaranteed to trigger in each match, aiding the killer in seeking out survivors. Survivor perks, not so much. Alert is probably the best of them. Pretty sure the killer will kick a gen or break a pallet in a match. The rest, very situational.

    I’m pretty sure someone being injured or within 36m isn’t all that situational, for Empathy or Bond.

    And I’m also quite certain that being hooked and unhooked are fairly common too, for Kindred and Breakdown.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I see these these things happen regularly in all my games. And being able to group up with teammates to work on Gens or Heal is something that help Survivors reach their goals, no?

    These really aren’t very situational at all, wouldn’t you agree? Or they situational because you can’t always run them while also having Decisive Strike, Self Care, And Sprint Burst?
  • altruistic
    altruistic Member Posts: 1,141
    edited December 2018
    Because a Killer can step 9 meters away from the hook and half of Kindred becomes useless.

    OoO can be good if you want to be chased, but not everyone wants to be chase.  

    I use Alert sometimes, a really strong perk IMO.

    I have started using Aftercare as well, IMO easily the best Aura perk for Survivors in comparison to Bond or Empathy. 

    Aura perks can be extremely strong.   Not all perks are created equal. 
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Orion said:
    I'm sure we've all heard complaints about Killers using aura-reading perks. Usually the complaints revolve around said perks being "overpowered", sometimes even "wallhacks".
    However, there's one question that nobody who complains about this has answered yet: If aura reading is so powerful, why don't Survivors use their aura-reading perks?

    Discuss.

    Because they dont need to hide from the killer

    1 problem of the game

  • Kebek
    Kebek Member Posts: 3,676

    Because they have SWF so they don't need to actually equip them. Solos however use them from time to time. I recently had match with fat jesus who used aftercare and it was such a godlike perk. I'll soon get it and be using it too.

  • artist
    artist Member Posts: 1,519
    its definitely good and nice to have sometimes just not something I'm always going for
  • Tzeentchling9
    Tzeentchling9 Member Posts: 1,796
    Because SWF gives all the aura reading that Survivors ever need.

    That being said, Bond is incredibly underrated by Survivors. I've been running it instead of Self Care and the amount of information it can provide by paying attention to the behavior of other Survivors nearby is staggering.
  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223

    Every single aura perk is easy AF to counter.

    BBQ? Just do something for 4 seconds after a hook, then do something else. I dodge this perk without even trying anymore. Just the other day I baited a Spirit to the other side of the map by doing a totem while the other living survivor got hooked. Counted to 4, didn't even finish the totem, and just walked away. She came looking but I was long gone. Sadly I made a boo-boo looking for the hatch, got caught and died, but it had nothing to do with BBQ.

    Nurse's? JUST DO NOT HEAL IN THE KILLERS TR!! Simple. If it's a Wraith or stealth killer, go on a hill or somewhere that you can easily see them coming from a distance. Or run IW/Adren and just play to finish gens. I don't even care about being injured anymore, I can play through the whole game sometimes like that.

    Territorial? Just... don't go into the basement. This is besides the fact NO ONE runs this perk. Still I always pay attention to the steps in case I go down there for the chest and they are the 1 in a million killer using it.

    Bitter Murmur? This one is admittedly harder to dodge, but it can be done. Same as BBQ, just have to know the killer has it. And at the end of the game run to one gate, count to 10, then walk to the other. Easy to dodge.

    Aura reading add-ons are harder to dodge mainly because it's harder to tell a killer has them. But my general thought process is, if it's a Myers/Wraith/Pig with aura add-ons just assume they are always chasing you. Do like you would for NC and get to a position where you can see them coming from a mile away. Always be on your toes, ready to run at any moment.

    Auras are powerful but not unbeatable. Only bad survivors constantly get caught by them. LEARN COUNTER PLAY!

  • Shadoureon
    Shadoureon Member Posts: 493

    When I solo play I live by Empathy. Gives me so much knowledge on the map and really miss it when I use something else.

    I think survivors use less aura reading is because most aura reading perks for survivors are neglectable. Dark Sense for example is useless. It works a maximum of 5 times and thats only if you repair all 5 generators. Most of the times its 2 times and thats not enough to have it used instead of other perks that can help you for longer periods of time during the same match.

    I am a anti aura reading person and would gladly have empathy removed if it means all aura reading is removed. I sometimes have the feeling that in certain matches killers only found me because of the aura reading not their skill.

  • ShrimpTwiggs
    ShrimpTwiggs Member Posts: 1,181

    I use aura reading perks and information-gathering perks in general quite a lot. I find them very underrated actually. As for an answer to your question, I think the main reason is that they're overshadowed by other perks that may come in handy more or at a more necessary moment, like self-care, decisive strike, borrowed time, and sprint burst.

    As much as I love dark sense, it won't do a survivor as much good in a chase as decisive or sprint burst. And since chases are one of the most risky parts of the match for survivors (and an opportunity to distract the killer from others), aura reading is overshadowed by perks that can help you in a chase more and, in the case of self-care, help you if you manage to break it. That's the reason I think, anyway.

  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,669

    aura reading is very powerful on killers from the hunter cathegory (Nurse, Billy, Huntress, Myers (tier 2 and 3), Clown, Spirit), as it counters out their one weakness: stealth.

    and as we all know, these killers are all considered top tier, so they are amazing at chasing you. combine that with the ability to easily track survivors and you got some powerful killers.
    however, nothing comes without any counterplay, so i wont consider aura reading perks op. not at all.

  • OrionsFury4789
    OrionsFury4789 Member Posts: 637
    Orion said:

    I'm sure we've all heard complaints about Killers using aura-reading perks. Usually the complaints revolve around said perks being "overpowered", sometimes even "wallhacks".
    However, there's one question that nobody who complains about this has answered yet: If aura reading is so powerful, why don't Survivors use their aura-reading perks?

    Discuss.

    I always use aura reading perks as a survivor , in fact I have different builds with different reasons for using them like bond instead of self care, or flashlights/insta heals  with empathy etc... but I feel as if bond and empathy can be used effectively even with swf because voice coms and your buddy trying to direct you on those maps aren’t near as effective as having the glowing visuals to see for yourself if the killer is coming/where he’s at, or if you’re fresh out of a chase after losing the killer and see someone right there on a gen so don’t even have to use coms to heal and work together or know when to save 
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    To those who say "I use so and so aura reading perk", I was speaking of the majority of Survivors. We all know the stale meta, and it does not involve aura reading.

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    Aura reading perks are more important when playing as a survivor imo since they are the ones who can get killed and depend on their teammates.
    When i play as a killer i rarely use aura reading perks since i find them a bit situational, like BBQ or BM. (i use bbq when i need bps though).
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @Entità said:
    I think the question is generic: some do not like the Aura reading per se, others fear that the killer's Aura reading skills destroy the stealthy game, others still want to see the Auras of the allies and not the enemy's, others claim to see the killer's Aura without being seen by them. In short, everyone has their motivations. Which category of players are you asking? :)

    I'm asking for the opinion of players who simultaneously claim that aura reading is powerful and don't use aura reading perks themselves.

  • Entità
    Entità Member Posts: 1,583
    Orion said:

    @Entità said:
    I think the question is generic: some do not like the Aura reading per se, others fear that the killer's Aura reading skills destroy the stealthy game, others still want to see the Auras of the allies and not the enemy's, others claim to see the killer's Aura without being seen by them. In short, everyone has their motivations. Which category of players are you asking? :)

    I'm asking for the opinion of players who simultaneously claim that aura reading is powerful and don't use aura reading perks themselves.

    I prefer a stealthy, fully immersive gameplay, without magic visions: I imagine to be the protagonist of a horror film and behave consequently: fear, tension, panic are my mates when I play Dead by Daylight.
  • Crythor
    Crythor Member Posts: 296

    Object of obsession is insanely strong in swf just one survivor has to take it and gives all info to teammates. Making survivors gain more value out of that perk slot then the killer since 3 take others perks there.

    Some other aura reading perks arent really needed if you are in swf since voice com can basically give you their use for free.

    The killer revealing perks would be very good but since survivors gain the terror raidus for free they arent as reliant on them if killer wouldnt have a heart beat i guess survivors would use those more.

    As to killer perks aura reading perks arent OP and they for sure didnt need the locker nerf. Its a stupid change and shouldnt have made it to live.