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So is the games matchmaking busted?

BloodyNights
BloodyNights Member Posts: 526
in General Discussions


Why exactly is it matching new killers up against 4 stacks, who've clearly have been playing the game for a long while? I mean...technically I'm a smurf because I played the game on PS4, and am just now switching to PC. But still...lol

Comments

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671

    It's not busted. The rank resets just happened.

  • Attackfrog
    Attackfrog Member Posts: 1,134

    The match making has always been pointless. Rank doesn't really matter....you Will get matches with whatever.

    Wish they would just remove it.

  • BloodyNights
    BloodyNights Member Posts: 526

    I don't think they need to get rid of ranked, they just should get rid of rank reset, and de-pipping in general. It might be the same as no ranked but it at least would match people by how much time they've played more accurately. If you've played long enough to get to rank 1 as a killer and a survivor you've got a decent grasp of the game and it should pair you accordingly.... or maybe I'm just thinking into it too much.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Blueberry said:
    It's not busted. The rank resets just happened.

    Matchmaking is completely busted and everybody knows that.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671

    @Master said:

    @Blueberry said:
    It's not busted. The rank resets just happened.

    Matchmaking is completely busted and everybody knows that.

    It's not and everyone doesn't think that. Please explain how you think it's busted?

    Only issues we have currently are bad que times, but that is not what the OP is referencing.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Blueberry said:

    @Master said:

    @Blueberry said:
    It's not busted. The rank resets just happened.

    Matchmaking is completely busted and everybody knows that.

    It's not and everyone doesn't think that. Please explain how you think it's busted?

    Only issues we have currently are bad que times, but that is not what the OP is referencing.

    Then how is it possible that a rank 18 killer verses 3x rank 1 and 1x rank 20 in a SWF for example. Thats proof enough for a busted matchmaking if you ask me :wink:

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671

    @Master said:

    @Blueberry said:

    @Master said:

    @Blueberry said:
    It's not busted. The rank resets just happened.

    Matchmaking is completely busted and everybody knows that.

    It's not and everyone doesn't think that. Please explain how you think it's busted?

    Only issues we have currently are bad que times, but that is not what the OP is referencing.

    Then how is it possible that a rank 18 killer verses 3x rank 1 and 1x rank 20 in a SWF for example. Thats proof enough for a busted matchmaking if you ask me :wink:

    Anecdotal experiences aren't evidence. Also, you're referencing a SWF match, you are having different ranks playing with each other, the game has to pick someones rank, it picked the lowest person ie the rank 20 to balance around. I see no errors here.

  • MegaWaffle
    MegaWaffle Member Posts: 4,172

    @Blueberry said:
    It's not busted. The rank resets just happened.

    It is busted because the seasons are too short and "rank" means nothing given that anyone at anytime can be any rank, even without using the SWF exploit. I honestly don't know why they have yet to address for the past 2 1/2 years how horrible the matchmaking system is. They don't even have basic systems in place to prevent people from de-ranking/disconnecting, its absurd.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671

    @MegaWaffle said:

    @Blueberry said:
    It's not busted. The rank resets just happened.

    It is busted because the seasons are too short and "rank" means nothing given that anyone at anytime can be any rank, even without using the SWF exploit. I honestly don't know why they have yet to address for the past 2 1/2 years how horrible the matchmaking system is. They don't even have basic systems in place to prevent people from de-ranking/disconnecting, its absurd.

    Seasons being too short, people de-ranking, or disconnecting are not factors to show ranking is "broken". Those are simply bad design features that we all disagree with them doing.

    The ranking system is extremely flawed and not a good representation of skill, but to say it means nothing, is just exaggeration and simply not true. A very small minority of people are actually at rank 1 and playing against a rank 1 is vastly different from playing against a rank 20.

  • MegaWaffle
    MegaWaffle Member Posts: 4,172

    @Blueberry said:

    @MegaWaffle said:

    @Blueberry said:
    It's not busted. The rank resets just happened.

    It is busted because the seasons are too short and "rank" means nothing given that anyone at anytime can be any rank, even without using the SWF exploit. I honestly don't know why they have yet to address for the past 2 1/2 years how horrible the matchmaking system is. They don't even have basic systems in place to prevent people from de-ranking/disconnecting, its absurd.

    Seasons being too short, people de-ranking, or disconnecting are not factors to show ranking is "broken". Those are simply bad design features that we all disagree with them doing.

    The ranking system is extremely flawed and not a good representation of skill, but to say it means nothing, is just exaggeration and simply not true. A very small minority of people are actually at rank 1 and playing against a rank 1 is vastly different from playing against a rank 20.

    Because the system is currently broken many rank 1 players are playing against new players. So yes the examples I gave are reasons as to why the current system is broken. These are also reasons why rank does not matter right now because the system they have doesn't actually keep people in their respective ranks reliably.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671

    @MegaWaffle said:

    @Blueberry said:

    @MegaWaffle said:

    @Blueberry said:
    It's not busted. The rank resets just happened.

    It is busted because the seasons are too short and "rank" means nothing given that anyone at anytime can be any rank, even without using the SWF exploit. I honestly don't know why they have yet to address for the past 2 1/2 years how horrible the matchmaking system is. They don't even have basic systems in place to prevent people from de-ranking/disconnecting, its absurd.

    Seasons being too short, people de-ranking, or disconnecting are not factors to show ranking is "broken". Those are simply bad design features that we all disagree with them doing.

    The ranking system is extremely flawed and not a good representation of skill, but to say it means nothing, is just exaggeration and simply not true. A very small minority of people are actually at rank 1 and playing against a rank 1 is vastly different from playing against a rank 20.

    Because the system is currently broken many rank 1 players are playing against new players. So yes the examples I gave are reasons as to why the current system is broken. These are also reasons why rank does not matter right now because the system they have doesn't actually keep people in their respective ranks reliably.

    No rank 1's are playing against new players unless they are doing SWF WITH a low rank in their group or they are purposefully de-ranking. Every single game has de-ranking in it, they just simply offer rank rewards to de-incentivize it. Nothing you have said shows any broken nature of the ranking system.

    The ranking system is flawed but it does give a general idea of skill level. As I said before, a rank 1 game is completely different from a rank 20 game.

  • MegaWaffle
    MegaWaffle Member Posts: 4,172

    @Blueberry

    You're right the rank system is not just BROKEN but fundamentally FLAWED.
    You are arguing with me and yet you are saying the same thing I am. You don't have to agree with the word I used but I fail to see why this is even a debate.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671

    @MegaWaffle said:
    @Blueberry

    You're right the rank system is not just BROKEN but fundamentally FLAWED.
    You are arguing with me and yet you are saying the same thing I am. You don't have to agree with the word I used but I fail to see why this is even a debate.

    We agree fundamentally. We're only disagreeing with "rank does not matter". The rank system is flawed, but rank does still matter.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Blueberry said:

    @Master said:

    @Blueberry said:

    @Master said:

    @Blueberry said:
    It's not busted. The rank resets just happened.

    Matchmaking is completely busted and everybody knows that.

    It's not and everyone doesn't think that. Please explain how you think it's busted?

    Only issues we have currently are bad que times, but that is not what the OP is referencing.

    Then how is it possible that a rank 18 killer verses 3x rank 1 and 1x rank 20 in a SWF for example. Thats proof enough for a busted matchmaking if you ask me :wink:

    Anecdotal experiences aren't evidence. Also, you're referencing a SWF match, you are having different ranks playing with each other, the game has to pick someones rank, it picked the lowest person ie the rank 20 to balance around. I see no errors here.

    Yeah rank 18 vs rank 20+1+1+1 in a SWF and you see no problem?
    Ok then

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671
    edited December 2018

    @Master said:

    @Blueberry said:

    @Master said:

    @Blueberry said:

    @Master said:

    @Blueberry said:
    It's not busted. The rank resets just happened.

    Matchmaking is completely busted and everybody knows that.

    It's not and everyone doesn't think that. Please explain how you think it's busted?

    Only issues we have currently are bad que times, but that is not what the OP is referencing.

    Then how is it possible that a rank 18 killer verses 3x rank 1 and 1x rank 20 in a SWF for example. Thats proof enough for a busted matchmaking if you ask me :wink:

    Anecdotal experiences aren't evidence. Also, you're referencing a SWF match, you are having different ranks playing with each other, the game has to pick someones rank, it picked the lowest person ie the rank 20 to balance around. I see no errors here.

    Yeah rank 18 vs rank 20+1+1+1 in a SWF and you see no problem?
    Ok then

    You are queing high ranks with a low rank, ######### do you expect to happen? Durr

    It has to pick a killer to match one of your ranks and it picked one. That's not a faulty system, that's functioning properly.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Blueberry said:

    @Master said:

    @Blueberry said:

    @Master said:

    @Blueberry said:

    @Master said:

    @Blueberry said:
    It's not busted. The rank resets just happened.

    Matchmaking is completely busted and everybody knows that.

    It's not and everyone doesn't think that. Please explain how you think it's busted?

    Only issues we have currently are bad que times, but that is not what the OP is referencing.

    Then how is it possible that a rank 18 killer verses 3x rank 1 and 1x rank 20 in a SWF for example. Thats proof enough for a busted matchmaking if you ask me :wink:

    Anecdotal experiences aren't evidence. Also, you're referencing a SWF match, you are having different ranks playing with each other, the game has to pick someones rank, it picked the lowest person ie the rank 20 to balance around. I see no errors here.

    Yeah rank 18 vs rank 20+1+1+1 in a SWF and you see no problem?
    Ok then

    You are queing high ranks with a low rank, ######### do you expect to happen? Durr

    It has to pick a killer to match one of your ranks and it picked one. That's not a faulty system, that's functioning properly.

    Ahhhh, so its the killers fault that he didnt lobbydodge the SWF? I understand now

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671
    edited December 2018

    @Master said:

    @Blueberry said:

    @Master said:

    @Blueberry said:

    @Master said:

    @Blueberry said:

    @Master said:

    @Blueberry said:
    It's not busted. The rank resets just happened.

    Matchmaking is completely busted and everybody knows that.

    It's not and everyone doesn't think that. Please explain how you think it's busted?

    Only issues we have currently are bad que times, but that is not what the OP is referencing.

    Then how is it possible that a rank 18 killer verses 3x rank 1 and 1x rank 20 in a SWF for example. Thats proof enough for a busted matchmaking if you ask me :wink:

    Anecdotal experiences aren't evidence. Also, you're referencing a SWF match, you are having different ranks playing with each other, the game has to pick someones rank, it picked the lowest person ie the rank 20 to balance around. I see no errors here.

    Yeah rank 18 vs rank 20+1+1+1 in a SWF and you see no problem?
    Ok then

    You are queing high ranks with a low rank, ######### do you expect to happen? Durr

    It has to pick a killer to match one of your ranks and it picked one. That's not a faulty system, that's functioning properly.

    Ahhhh, so its the killers fault that he didnt lobbydodge the SWF? I understand now

    No, it's no ones fault, it's the system functioning as intended. You are failing to see the entire point of this all and the gif just perpetuates that even more.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Blueberry said:

    @Master said:

    @Blueberry said:

    @Master said:

    @Blueberry said:

    @Master said:

    @Blueberry said:

    @Master said:

    @Blueberry said:
    It's not busted. The rank resets just happened.

    Matchmaking is completely busted and everybody knows that.

    It's not and everyone doesn't think that. Please explain how you think it's busted?

    Only issues we have currently are bad que times, but that is not what the OP is referencing.

    Then how is it possible that a rank 18 killer verses 3x rank 1 and 1x rank 20 in a SWF for example. Thats proof enough for a busted matchmaking if you ask me :wink:

    Anecdotal experiences aren't evidence. Also, you're referencing a SWF match, you are having different ranks playing with each other, the game has to pick someones rank, it picked the lowest person ie the rank 20 to balance around. I see no errors here.

    Yeah rank 18 vs rank 20+1+1+1 in a SWF and you see no problem?
    Ok then

    You are queing high ranks with a low rank, ######### do you expect to happen? Durr

    It has to pick a killer to match one of your ranks and it picked one. That's not a faulty system, that's functioning properly.

    Ahhhh, so its the killers fault that he didnt lobbydodge the SWF? I understand now

    No, it's no ones fault, it's the system functioning as intended. You are failing to see the entire point of this all and the gif just perpetuates that even more.


    Ok I surender, just forget this conversation

  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552

    @Blueberry said:
    It's not busted. The rank resets just happened.

    This is not rank reset, this is a bullying session. Just take a look at the guy with 5k points. Self care, empathy--claudette, sprint burst--Meg, Decisive strike--Laurie.

    There is no way this man is naturally in between 15-20 ranks. These scumbags stay at those ranks to bully new killers

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671

    @Delfador said:

    @Blueberry said:
    It's not busted. The rank resets just happened.

    This is not rank reset, this is a bullying session. Just take a look at the guy with 5k points. Self care, empathy--claudette, sprint burst--Meg, Decisive strike--Laurie.

    There is no way this man is naturally in between 15-20 ranks. These scumbags stay at those ranks to bully new killers

    You don't seem to understand what a rank reset is in this game.

    "There is no way this man is naturally in between 15-20 ranks" He's not. He was put there from the rank reset that happens regularly.

  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552
    edited December 2018

    @Blueberry said:

    @Delfador said:

    @Blueberry said:
    It's not busted. The rank resets just happened.

    This is not rank reset, this is a bullying session. Just take a look at the guy with 5k points. Self care, empathy--claudette, sprint burst--Meg, Decisive strike--Laurie.

    There is no way this man is naturally in between 15-20 ranks. These scumbags stay at those ranks to bully new killers

    You don't seem to understand what a rank reset is in this game.

    "There is no way this man is naturally in between 15-20 ranks" He's not. He was put there from the rank reset that happens regularly.

    You are totally right, I thought that not going back to rank 16-20 meant that you can't be sent back to those ranks or derank yourself. TY for information.

    Edit; they still tried to bully most probably though. He was a ps dbd player and got this, imagine a beginner going up against this team.

  • Divinitye9
    Divinitye9 Member Posts: 392
    So you are intentionally playing low ranks, despite having experience in the game and the ability to play at a higher level, and you are complaining about matchmaking?

    You are a prime example of why the system is screwed up. People de pip or smurf. You just got a taste of your own medicine
  • CornChip
    CornChip Member Posts: 540

    Sometimes you vs players of higher rank. Sometimes you face new potatos. I bet you don't come and make a post about it when you face the potatos though.

  • BloodyNights
    BloodyNights Member Posts: 526

    @Divinitye9 said:
    So you are intentionally playing low ranks, despite having experience in the game and the ability to play at a higher level, and you are complaining about matchmaking?

    You are a prime example of why the system is screwed up. People de pip or smurf. You just got a taste of your own medicine

    I switched to PC, I'm going to rank up just like I did on the PS4. But I'm also a new player on PC. Imagine someone who is just starting going against this sort of team. I'm a rank 1 killer on PS4, I know how to play. It just baffles me that it would take a killer with basically no perks who just started and places them against these types of players. Only reason they got killed is because they were overly altruistic which is the downfall of most swf. I can't swap to PC and instantly become rank 1 without going through the proper play sessions.

  • BloodyNights
    BloodyNights Member Posts: 526

    @CornChip said:
    Sometimes you vs players of higher rank. Sometimes you face new potatos. I bet you don't come and make a post about it when you face the potatos though.

    Why would I complain about new killers going up against new survivors? There should be an easy way to tell them apart in the games match making. It can also work in the reverse where I got my first taste of a fully perked out Hex Ruin, Nurses Calling, BBQ, Whispers Nurse with the purple blink add-on thing. She wrecked me, and every other survivor instantly because of the low ranks. I was actually surprised at how good the nurse was because she is pretty crap on PS4 due to the frame rate and no insta turns. The potato survivors didn't know how to work through Hex Ruin. It's the same thing that nurse shouldn't have been paired up with the brand new survivors to the game.

  • scorpio
    scorpio Member Posts: 364

    @Delfador said:

    @Blueberry said:
    It's not busted. The rank resets just happened.

    This is not rank reset, this is a bullying session. Just take a look at the guy with 5k points. Self care, empathy--claudette, sprint burst--Meg, Decisive strike--Laurie.

    There is no way this man is naturally in between 15-20 ranks. These scumbags stay at those ranks to bully new killers

    Not necessarily true. I have lots of tier 3 add ons for survivor but I still suck at it lol plus I'm a killer main so my rank reset and reset and reset without me playing all that often so I'm in the noob ranks but not by choice.