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What am I supposed to do with the killer takes the match hostage?

I sometimes get killers who refuse to kill us or end the match and I can't leave witrhout ME getting punished. I don't want to waste my time in these matches, I just want to move on and play a real match. Why am I forced to endure this?

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  • hastarkis
    hastarkis Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 580

    Record and report if you are sure they do it against the rules (refuse to participate normal gameplay). Suffer through it or DC if you don't want to and have recorded enough for report ticket.

    If it's not against the rules then (technically) it's not taking game hostage. You can suffer only and try to annoy killer enough by doing objectives to get out.

  • WesCravenFan
    WesCravenFan Member Posts: 2,638

    Depends on what you think is taking the game hostage. If you are bodyblocking in the corner, yes. If he is simply done chasing your character in the ultra safe three tile chain with a 99 Sprint Burst, then no.

  • HugTheHag
    HugTheHag Member Posts: 3,140

    If you mean the killer not committing to chases while defending a 3gen, it's not reportable. It's maintaining pressure on the last survivor objective and 100% the correct play to make as killer.

  • Nirgendwohin
    Nirgendwohin Member Posts: 1,251

    i think OP is talking about AFK / Bot killer. its really hard to avoid depipping with afk killer.

  • hastarkis
    hastarkis Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 580
  • DashMonsta008XV
    DashMonsta008XV Member Posts: 611
    edited December 2022

    Call 555 555 5555 5- 8 if you or a love one is being held hostage by a Dead by Daylight Killer

  • jinx3d
    jinx3d Member Posts: 519

    if youre talking about an afk killer,thats not taking the game hostage lmao. do gens and leave.

  • LordSturm
    LordSturm Member Posts: 493

    If the killer is AFK or a bot, you can literally just do the gens and leave, they aren't stopping you by any means.

  • versacefeng
    versacefeng Member Posts: 1,194

    Not downing survivors in a 3gen is reportable and has been said multiple times.

  • Bardon
    Bardon Member Posts: 1,004

    Honest question, I've looked and can't find BHVR making that statement, can you please link where I can find this?

    Much appreciated.

  • VikingDragonXii
    VikingDragonXii Member Posts: 2,885

    I remember seeing it too but with the amount of posts that are out there I can't find it....All these posts are a pain to search through....

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 20,783

    It's completely possible to hold the match hostage by holding a 3-gen.

    The Hens video that was posted a bit ago showed that. I tested it myself to confirm.

    It's not even really hard to do

  • Dustin
    Dustin Member Posts: 2,306
    edited December 2022

    Is this a 3 gen thing? If it's really insufferable just eat the DC penalty and move on. Most of the time as much as people argue DC bad if the killer somehow has the advantage to hold 3 gens and you somehow can't progress and they have an opportunity to kill you and doesn't take it then just move on. Alternatively just AFK.

    This is assuming you and your team (that's left) realistically are being prevented from doing objectives but the killer won't take you out of the game. I've never been in that situation unless my teammates are not trying but realistically that would be all you could do unless you just AFK it out due to boredom.

    If you're being body blocked in a corner for example it's the same situation unless teammates can start EGC to kill you. We can all say report the killer but they shouldn't be able to do either in the first place. I believe both are reportable if it's genuinely a hostage situation where DC'ing is the only clear option for the survivor. In regards to a nasty 3 gen that's just a long match then no.

  • TheSubstitute
    TheSubstitute Member Posts: 2,495

    Other than bodyblocking and Doctor how does a Killer hold the game hostage? I'm curious since, although the situation would suck, just stay on a gen and keep going back to the gen. You'll either bleed out or the gen will get finished. Is it hacks to keep the game going after EGC?

  • Dustin
    Dustin Member Posts: 2,306
    edited December 2022

    Back when matchmaking was a bit goofier sometimes I'd get newer players who couldn't pressure generators or were in a case where it was impossible due to killer perks. If you dwindle a team down to two survivors unless they're willing to be gen grabbed and picked up and slugged until they bleed out there's no way for a survivor to really do anything if the generators are close enough. Granted the only way to truly hold the game hostage is forcing survivors to constantly miss skillchecks and picking them up so they don't bleed out. It takes a lot of effort on the killers part just to do this.

    Holding gens hostage when there are 4 survivors though I'd have to see it to believe it.

  • TheSubstitute
    TheSubstitute Member Posts: 2,495

    Yeah, I don't see it either except for Doctor repeatedly shocking. The survivors might be unwilling to die and the Killer might be unwilling to leave the 3 gen but, in that case, both sides are responsible a la the old Hatch standoffs.

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077
    edited December 2022

    The problem is that this is a fringe scenario - and most 3gen situations are a hell of the survivors' own making. I don't want to see perks nerfed because of some poopers taking games hostage - there has to be a more elegant solution. It's also not like Boil Over, where one perk could be gutted to remove the problem. Eruption makes this easier, but I'm sure you could accomplish something similar with other perks.

    The only counter I can imagine is a 4man with PE, but you'd have to go in knowing what to expect. Which isn't realistic.

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 20,783

    I've seen this twice tonight.

    Killer loads in, finds three close gens, never leaves.

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077

    I've only seen it once thus far, and yeah - it was bloody annoying.

    This is, unfortunately, a problem that can only really be fixed through moderation. People like this need a ban, ditto survivors that play hide and seek forever when you've got 2 kills.

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 20,783
    edited December 2022

    And thus we come back to DBD's horrific reporting system.

    Not sure if you were here but they proposed a change to the reporting system back in the 5th anniversary livestream. There's a reason it never came to fruition. It was worse.

    All that to say I don't expect any good changes on that front.

  • VikingDragonXii
    VikingDragonXii Member Posts: 2,885

    PE can definitely break a 3-Gen IF the survivor KNOWS how to use it. I personally used it to break a 3-gen with another survivor with prove thy. It also is great to bypass Tinkerer

  • TheSubstitute
    TheSubstitute Member Posts: 2,495

    It was a build (and set-up) stacked specifically to bust a 3 gen but I came in with PE, Hyperfocus, Stakeout, a Commodious and a BNP. Just as soon as a survivor was picked up I started a gen in the three gen from zero and, while I didn't time it, it was roughly 25 seconds to finish the gen from start to finish by myself. If you hit both skill checks on the BNP I think it's a maximum of 34 to 35 seconds to do a gen with PE and a BNP (((32÷1.5)+13)=34.33). That's 45 charges right there with 20 from Potential Energy and another 25 from BNP.

    I brought it specifically for when I was doing Outbreak:Breakout since I grew tired of my teammates doing the gens on the outside and the Killer either being smart enough to patrol the 3 gen set-up in the lobby or my teammates three genning us the majority of the time.

    Definitely risky, item intensive, requires a lot of set-up, Franklin's hurts bad and you only have one shot at it but it's very good at busting a three gen.

  • VikingDragonXii
    VikingDragonXii Member Posts: 2,885

    I understand why people hate getting 3-Gen but even if the Killer decides early to protect it or Survivors make the mistake a 3-Gen is beatable.

    Now I do hate Eruption but what I hate is the status effect they either need to remove it for another effect or cut the time in half so it's not as bad. By changing that little bit, it will make that combo not as potent.

  • Katzengott
    Katzengott Member Posts: 1,210

    Just finish the gens or get killed in the process.

    When the killer refuses to pick you up just don't recover so it doesn't take so long to die on the floor.

  • Tsela
    Tsela Member Posts: 524

    Until the killer is actively chases you and hits you when he can, you can't report him for anything.

    But for example if you consider slugging for 4k, 3 gen camping, and all the rest as "taking the game hostage" you are out of luck. No it's not bannable offense and of course you get punished for DC for your rage quit sessions.

  • TheSubstitute
    TheSubstitute Member Posts: 2,495
    edited December 2022

    I agree. With a change to Eruption a 3 gen would be a lot more beatable. It can still be hard and a lot of people hate it but, realistically, a large part of the Killer roster has mobility issues, are okay but not great at chase and rely on defending a small area in order to win if they aren't going to hard tunnel and camp and a 3 gen, Eruption notwithstanding, can be beaten. And, in the majority of 3 gens, it was the survivors who did it to themselves.

    It's just that incapacitated status needs to change. You can't really hit different gens to pull the Killer off if the Erupting Call Of Overcharge means all 3 gens are regressing uncontested since nobody can tap and if you don't press a close 3 gen hard enough someone will get downed the Killer might be able to pull off a 3 gen with no or only one gen regression perk.

  • VikingDragonXii
    VikingDragonXii Member Posts: 2,885

    CoB isn't any worse than Pop and Overcharge is fine but when combined with current Eruption that's too much...that's why they should remove the incapacitated effect for something else like a Killer Instinct for 20sec or something like that.

    But hey those of use with reasonable thinking are the minority on the forums tbh.