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Is the entity a childlike being?

ReikoMori
ReikoMori Member Posts: 3,333
in Lore

I have thought about this for a while. I remember the devs saying that the entity recreates what it sees from the real world outside its realm, but doesn't necessarily have an understanding as to what they are. The entity understands concepts like, hope, fear, life, death, and pain. As well as hunger. Yet, it can't separate fiction from reality as seen with the existence of movie characters in the fog. The entity also seems to care little for morality as well, but does exhibit a base understanding of fairness. This can be seen by the entity allowing survivors to have tools and gain skills and understanding of its realm.

Comments

  • Rebel_Raven
    Rebel_Raven Member Posts: 1,775
    No, the entity is a lovecraftian being. Or maybe like IT, or the Turtle from the Steven King works.

    The mind of the entity is alien, and would likely drive anyone who could understand it completely insane.
  • Shraar
    Shraar Member Posts: 219

    @Rebel_Raven said:
    No, the entity is a lovecraftian being. Or maybe like IT, or the Turtle from the Steven King works.

    The mind of the entity is alien, and would likely drive anyone who could understand it completely insane.

    Who says it is alien? It seems pretty relate able to me, like, I understand everything I see. Nothing out of this world, nothing unfathomable.

  • Rebel_Raven
    Rebel_Raven Member Posts: 1,775
    Shraar said:

    @Rebel_Raven said:
    No, the entity is a lovecraftian being. Or maybe like IT, or the Turtle from the Steven King works.

    The mind of the entity is alien, and would likely drive anyone who could understand it completely insane.

    Who says it is alien? It seems pretty relate able to me, like, I understand everything I see. Nothing out of this world, nothing unfathomable.

    The devs in the lore questions of some live streams.
  • Shraar
    Shraar Member Posts: 219

    @Rebel_Raven said:
    Shraar said:

    @Rebel_Raven said:

    No, the entity is a lovecraftian being. Or maybe like IT, or the Turtle from the Steven King works.

    The mind of the entity is alien, and would likely drive anyone who could understand it completely insane.

    Who says it is alien? It seems pretty relate able to me, like, I understand everything I see. Nothing out of this world, nothing unfathomable.

    The devs in the lore questions of some live streams.

    So?What they say is not what they delivered.

  • TrueKn1ghtmar3
    TrueKn1ghtmar3 Member Posts: 1,143
    I said this on another thread but in my opinion the entity is coming to the end of it's life cycle, that's why so many new survivors are coming in (besides the fact that the devs need money), the entity feeds off of hope, so the only reason to bring new survivors in is if the hope is not enough. Meaning the survivors aren't putting out enough to sustain the entity, none of the current survivors haven't gone to the "void" therefore the only reason for it to bring more people is if it's need is growing or it can't hold hope like it used to.
  • ShrimpTwiggs
    ShrimpTwiggs Member Posts: 1,181

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
    I said this on another thread but in my opinion the entity is coming to the end of it's life cycle, that's why so many new survivors are coming in (besides the fact that the devs need money), the entity feeds off of hope, so the only reason to bring new survivors in is if the hope is not enough. Meaning the survivors aren't putting out enough to sustain the entity, none of the current survivors haven't gone to the "void" therefore the only reason for it to bring more people is if it's need is growing or it can't hold hope like it used to.

    I imagine the entity as more of a growing thing. The reason it needs more "food" is because it's growing in power.

  • TrueKn1ghtmar3
    TrueKn1ghtmar3 Member Posts: 1,143
    ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
    I said this on another thread but in my opinion the entity is coming to the end of it's life cycle, that's why so many new survivors are coming in (besides the fact that the devs need money), the entity feeds off of hope, so the only reason to bring new survivors in is if the hope is not enough. Meaning the survivors aren't putting out enough to sustain the entity, none of the current survivors haven't gone to the "void" therefore the only reason for it to bring more people is if it's need is growing or it can't hold hope like it used to.

    I imagine the entity as more of a growing thing. The reason it needs more "food" is because it's growing in power.

    Yet it's been alive for centuries, how much more growing does it need to do?
  • ShrimpTwiggs
    ShrimpTwiggs Member Posts: 1,181

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
    ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:

    I said this on another thread but in my opinion the entity is coming to the end of it's life cycle, that's why so many new survivors are coming in (besides the fact that the devs need money), the entity feeds off of hope, so the only reason to bring new survivors in is if the hope is not enough. Meaning the survivors aren't putting out enough to sustain the entity, none of the current survivors haven't gone to the "void" therefore the only reason for it to bring more people is if it's need is growing or it can't hold hope like it used to.

    I imagine the entity as more of a growing thing. The reason it needs more "food" is because it's growing in power.

    Yet it's been alive for centuries, how much more growing does it need to do?

    That's the thing, is the entity might be able to live far longer than you might believe. A few centuries might not mean anything to this being.

  • TrueKn1ghtmar3
    TrueKn1ghtmar3 Member Posts: 1,143
    ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
    ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:

    I said this on another thread but in my opinion the entity is coming to the end of it's life cycle, that's why so many new survivors are coming in (besides the fact that the devs need money), the entity feeds off of hope, so the only reason to bring new survivors in is if the hope is not enough. Meaning the survivors aren't putting out enough to sustain the entity, none of the current survivors haven't gone to the "void" therefore the only reason for it to bring more people is if it's need is growing or it can't hold hope like it used to.

    I imagine the entity as more of a growing thing. The reason it needs more "food" is because it's growing in power.

    Yet it's been alive for centuries, how much more growing does it need to do?

    That's the thing, is the entity might be able to live far longer than you might believe. A few centuries might not mean anything to this being.

    If it is older say primordial old it only furthers my point.
  • ShrimpTwiggs
    ShrimpTwiggs Member Posts: 1,181

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
    ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:

    ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:

I said this on another thread but in my opinion the entity is coming to the end of it's life cycle, that's why so many new survivors are coming in (besides the fact that the devs need money), the entity feeds off of hope, so the only reason to bring new survivors in is if the hope is not enough. Meaning the survivors aren't putting out enough to sustain the entity, none of the current survivors haven't gone to the "void" therefore the only reason for it to bring more people is if it's need is growing or it can't hold hope like it used to.



I imagine the entity as more of a growing thing. The reason it needs more "food" is because it's growing in power.

    Yet it's been alive for centuries, how much more growing does it need to do?

    That's the thing, is the entity might be able to live far longer than you might believe. A few centuries might not mean anything to this being.

    If it is older say primordial old it only furthers my point.

    But if the entity can live for thousands and thousands of years, than it might still be in a young stage, and that's assuming it ages at all, since time isn't much of an issue for it.

  • TrueKn1ghtmar3
    TrueKn1ghtmar3 Member Posts: 1,143
    edited January 2019
    ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
    ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:

    ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:

I said this on another thread but in my opinion the entity is coming to the end of it's life cycle, that's why so many new survivors are coming in (besides the fact that the devs need money), the entity feeds off of hope, so the only reason to bring new survivors in is if the hope is not enough. Meaning the survivors aren't putting out enough to sustain the entity, none of the current survivors haven't gone to the "void" therefore the only reason for it to bring more people is if it's need is growing or it can't hold hope like it used to.



I imagine the entity as more of a growing thing. The reason it needs more "food" is because it's growing in power.

    Yet it's been alive for centuries, how much more growing does it need to do?

    That's the thing, is the entity might be able to live far longer than you might believe. A few centuries might not mean anything to this being.

    If it is older say primordial old it only furthers my point.

    But if the entity can live for thousands and thousands of years, than it might still be in a young stage, and that's assuming it ages at all, since time isn't much of an issue for it.

    And finally you get to the argument I wanted you to bring up is the entity's time, yes the lore says the entity doesn't understand time, and it does show the ability to randomly move through time, but lore never asserts the entity is un-affected by time and lore does show that the entity goes through seasonal occurrences like lore states once every so often it has to go through the hallowed blight, which means it does go through some change through time meaning it must age.
  • ShrimpTwiggs
    ShrimpTwiggs Member Posts: 1,181

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
    ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:

    ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:

ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said: I said this on another thread but in my opinion the entity is coming to the end of it's life cycle, that's why so many new survivors are coming in (besides the fact that the devs need money), the entity feeds off of hope, so the only reason to bring new survivors in is if the hope is not enough. Meaning the survivors aren't putting out enough to sustain the entity, none of the current survivors haven't gone to the "void" therefore the only reason for it to bring more people is if it's need is growing or it can't hold hope like it used to. I imagine the entity as more of a growing thing. The reason it needs more "food" is because it's growing in power.

    Yet it's been alive for centuries, how much more growing does it need to do?



That's the thing, is the entity might be able to live far longer than you might believe. A few centuries might not mean anything to this being.

    If it is older say primordial old it only furthers my point.

    But if the entity can live for thousands and thousands of years, than it might still be in a young stage, and that's assuming it ages at all, since time isn't much of an issue for it.

    And finally you get to the argument I wanted you to bring up is the entity's time, yes the lore says the entity doesn't understand time, and it does show the ability to randomly move through time, but lore never asserts the entity is un-affected by time and lore does show that the entity goes through seasonal occurrences like lore states once every so often it has to go through the hallowed blight, which means it does go through some change through time meaning it must age.

    The hallowed blight is a purge, not the sign of age. It kinda has to go through it. And it was never said to be a sign of aging. In fact, it was never explained what it was. The dev's even mentioned in a lore stream a while back that time is a fluid concept. There's nothing to say that it doesn't understand time, but there's also nothing to say that it ages. Sure it gets older but does it's body weaken with time? There's no indication that it does. In fact, in one of those lore streams the devs confirmed that the entiiy is growing in power.

  • TrueKn1ghtmar3
    TrueKn1ghtmar3 Member Posts: 1,143
    ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
    ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:

    ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:

ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said: I said this on another thread but in my opinion the entity is coming to the end of it's life cycle, that's why so many new survivors are coming in (besides the fact that the devs need money), the entity feeds off of hope, so the only reason to bring new survivors in is if the hope is not enough. Meaning the survivors aren't putting out enough to sustain the entity, none of the current survivors haven't gone to the "void" therefore the only reason for it to bring more people is if it's need is growing or it can't hold hope like it used to. I imagine the entity as more of a growing thing. The reason it needs more "food" is because it's growing in power.

    Yet it's been alive for centuries, how much more growing does it need to do?



That's the thing, is the entity might be able to live far longer than you might believe. A few centuries might not mean anything to this being.

    If it is older say primordial old it only furthers my point.

    But if the entity can live for thousands and thousands of years, than it might still be in a young stage, and that's assuming it ages at all, since time isn't much of an issue for it.

    And finally you get to the argument I wanted you to bring up is the entity's time, yes the lore says the entity doesn't understand time, and it does show the ability to randomly move through time, but lore never asserts the entity is un-affected by time and lore does show that the entity goes through seasonal occurrences like lore states once every so often it has to go through the hallowed blight, which means it does go through some change through time meaning it must age.

    The hallowed blight is a purge, not the sign of age. It kinda has to go through it. And it was never said to be a sign of aging. In fact, it was never explained what it was. The dev's even mentioned in a lore stream a while back that time is a fluid concept. There's nothing to say that it doesn't understand time, but there's also nothing to say that it ages. Sure it gets older but does it's body weaken with time? There's no indication that it does. In fact, in one of those lore streams the devs confirmed that the entiiy is growing in power.

    Thanks for the info I never look at the dev streams 
  • XxAtomicAlfiexX
    XxAtomicAlfiexX Member Posts: 395

    @ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
    ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:

    ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:

ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said: I said this on another thread but in my opinion the entity is coming to the end of it's life cycle, that's why so many new survivors are coming in (besides the fact that the devs need money), the entity feeds off of hope, so the only reason to bring new survivors in is if the hope is not enough. Meaning the survivors aren't putting out enough to sustain the entity, none of the current survivors haven't gone to the "void" therefore the only reason for it to bring more people is if it's need is growing or it can't hold hope like it used to. I imagine the entity as more of a growing thing. The reason it needs more "food" is because it's growing in power.

    Yet it's been alive for centuries, how much more growing does it need to do?



That's the thing, is the entity might be able to live far longer than you might believe. A few centuries might not mean anything to this being.

    If it is older say primordial old it only furthers my point.

    But if the entity can live for thousands and thousands of years, than it might still be in a young stage, and that's assuming it ages at all, since time isn't much of an issue for it.

    And finally you get to the argument I wanted you to bring up is the entity's time, yes the lore says the entity doesn't understand time, and it does show the ability to randomly move through time, but lore never asserts the entity is un-affected by time and lore does show that the entity goes through seasonal occurrences like lore states once every so often it has to go through the hallowed blight, which means it does go through some change through time meaning it must age.

    The hallowed blight is a purge, not the sign of age. It kinda has to go through it. And it was never said to be a sign of aging. In fact, it was never explained what it was. The dev's even mentioned in a lore stream a while back that time is a fluid concept. There's nothing to say that it doesn't understand time, but there's also nothing to say that it ages. Sure it gets older but does it's body weaken with time? There's no indication that it does. In fact, in one of those lore streams the devs confirmed that the entiiy is growing in power.

    if it is growing in power that might explain its need for more food (survivors). im not sure why a god like being would need the food though.

  • ShrimpTwiggs
    ShrimpTwiggs Member Posts: 1,181

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
    ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:

    ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:

ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said: ShrimpTwiggs said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:    I said this on another thread but in my opinion the entity is coming to the end of it's life cycle, that's why so many new survivors are coming in (besides the fact that the devs need money), the entity feeds off of hope, so the only reason to bring new survivors in is if the hope is not enough. Meaning the survivors aren't putting out enough to sustain the entity, none of the current survivors haven't gone to the "void" therefore the only reason for it to bring more people is if it's need is growing or it can't hold hope like it used to.        I imagine the entity as more of a growing thing. The reason it needs more "food" is because it's growing in power.

    Yet it's been alive for centuries, how much more growing does it need to do? That's the thing, is the entity might be able to live far longer than you might believe. A few centuries might not mean anything to this being.

    If it is older say primordial old it only furthers my point.



But if the entity can live for thousands and thousands of years, than it might still be in a young stage, and that's assuming it ages at all, since time isn't much of an issue for it.

    And finally you get to the argument I wanted you to bring up is the entity's time, yes the lore says the entity doesn't understand time, and it does show the ability to randomly move through time, but lore never asserts the entity is un-affected by time and lore does show that the entity goes through seasonal occurrences like lore states once every so often it has to go through the hallowed blight, which means it does go through some change through time meaning it must age.

    The hallowed blight is a purge, not the sign of age. It kinda has to go through it. And it was never said to be a sign of aging. In fact, it was never explained what it was. The dev's even mentioned in a lore stream a while back that time is a fluid concept. There's nothing to say that it doesn't understand time, but there's also nothing to say that it ages. Sure it gets older but does it's body weaken with time? There's no indication that it does. In fact, in one of those lore streams the devs confirmed that the entiiy is growing in power.

    Thanks for the info I never look at the dev streams 

    No problem. If you're wondering what stream it's in, it the 111th, Big Buckets of Blood and Gore. It's around the fifty-six minute mark where they confirm that it's growing in power.