This game is a nightmare for new killers
How are you suppose to have any fun and gradually learn if you get nothing but experienced survivors and bully squads?
MMR is completely useless.
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Because more experienced killers know enough to dodge the lobby so the game spazzes out and puts any killer in the lobby. Wouldn't want to inconvenience the SWF bully squad by making them wait for a good Nurse, Blight, or Wesker
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*New players
Plus, I'd argue that with the balancing adjustments over the past year and how MMR ratings change due to it, lead to a general disconnect between experience/skill level and MMR rating. Killers, once they have a hang of the basics, are more likely to advance up until they reached their upper limit based of their current skill, while survivors who either play for fun instead of efficiency or who regularly play SoloQ will drop down until they reach the lower limit of their current skill.
The term "bully squad" gets used very broadly for all kinds of behaviour. It needs context. How do you define bully squad here?
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A swyf team of clearly 4 experienced played in comms doing fl saves and hook sabo so you get nothing the whole match, how is it possible that MMR matches a new killer vs a team like that?
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The game is a nightmare for experienced killers to against these teams. Just went against one and they burned a farm offering which is all survivor sided crap maps. 1 hook all gens done. Body blocking, saboing. Nothing I can do but be their entertainment as I struggle to even get a single hook.
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Exactly, gens just fly, they don't let you hook, they good at looping, there is absolutely nothing a new killer can do
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Simple - they prioritize queue times over balanced matches.
Side note: I lowkey miss the old rank system. Like yeah it could be cheesed, but if you were Rank 20 you had much better odds of facing other new players.
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Starting killer has always been a nightmare for people. It's kinda the nature of the game (unfortunately).
I find some of the more simple killers are good to learn with first even if you don't stick with them longterm (such as wraith, Legion, or cannibal). You can carry over a lot of principles onto many other killers just learning on the simple killer first. For example, I played nurse for essentially the first time and in both games I played I got a 4k. I built around not being able to use her blinks well and used them to increase my basic movement and decrease attack cooldown.
As far as survivors go, you'll have that. More experienced people still get them and it's tough. It just takes some time to learn and you can beat several of the bully squads over time
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I'm confused: you have 460 posts, are you the new killer, are you talking about someone else?
The general new killer experience, though it can vary, usually involves mascaraing baby survivors.
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I always payed surv until recently started killer
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I mean when first learning anything new, the goal should be to learn as much as possible, not 'win'. Even then, I'm confused how you haven't picked anything up just by playing Survivor. Basic things like 'oh crap the Killer ran at us while we were grouped on a gen, now multiple of us have to run' or 'I'm currently the least hooked, so I should go for the rescue while the death hook Survivor pumps gens'. Knowing all of those minor facets give such a huge leg up on learning to play Killer, just because you know what the opposition is likely to do.
As far as MMR, yeah thats why people meme and call it 'escape-based matchmaking'. If you throw at endgame for the hook trade or die, then your MMR tanks, even though you did the fun thing and could have escaped. Many people unintentionally 'fix' their MMR by just playing to have fun, making newer Killers have to face omega juicers.
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You must have the worst luck in the world because I'm in the same situation but I have to actually try to lose so the game lasts long enough that I don't feel guilty about how easily I can kill survivors.
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unlucky i didn't run into my first bully squad into i was 50 games in. You gonna get destroy for a little while into you learn but some bully squads will literally gift you the win no matter how bad u performing (they don't do gens)
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I've always found killer to be easier to pick up than survivor, but I do remember my first bully squad within my first few weeks of playing, at a time where there were too few survivors and queue times were long so I didn't want to dodge.
Matchmaking tried to put me up against them literally the next game, and that was a good time to stop playing for the night.
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Because MMR is based off of escapes. If these people play together more often and have given up on being efficient / don't care about MMR and instead trail each other for FL saves, or for sabo plays, or throw an entire match just to get the haste from Soulpact+that new Teamwprk perk or whatever else there is that is fun but does not help you escape, they will die a lot. Which is fine by them. - Only when they've dropped so far that there's no possible way for them to lose anymore - even with all their shenanigans they still get the gens done eventually - they will escape. That's also the point where they arrived at an opponent who is in no way a match for them due to lack of knowledge and experience.
My killers sit at drastically different MMR ratings and my low-ish MMR killers get *a lot* more cocky squads who try all their shenanigans than the mid-high MMR ones.
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